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Number of Ukrainian evacuees to Japan reaches 1,000

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Thank you, Japan, for your support!

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Some comments here are truly disgusting and pathetic. How can you blame refugees? And it's not your decision. The Japanese government is doing the right thing.

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Zelensky say 100 Ukrainian soldiers confirmed killed each day in Donbas,lots of widows

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Yes, many others here, me included, have even quite less money a day, but that’s still no reason for being or talking such extremely greedy and enviously , considering that they have lost most of the personal things, their homes , their country and also had fears or severe shocks for their lives and potentially being killed , hurt or raped by Russian military or other secret police forces while still fleeing inside UKR. Be happy that you haven’t to walk in their shoes so to say. It’s not so bad, but it’s of course also not making them rich…

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Larr FlintToday 09:39 am JST

The government should stop this policy as it will come to the point that Japanese will be tired of foreigners and some bad things might happen.

You mean like discrimination and bias on a wide scale? Too late. Waaay too late. They can't get tired of something they were already tired of from hundreds of years ago.

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Stormcrow...

These are the victims of a cruel bully.

Yes, their "leader" the successor of a US inspired coup d'etat, went along with the "join NATO and EU, we will protect you" nonsense. The US is a cruel bully, except this time the victim called his bluff. Sadly the ordinary people of Ukraine get the pain.

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One of my students mentioned that they weren’t wearing masks. It’s hardly the time and place after what they’ve been through to being that up is it.

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What sort of bad things?

Foreigners might stop investing in Japan.

Japanese products might get refused/boycotted.

Japanese people abroad might get xenophobic attacks.

... start accepting other people or bad things might happen.

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The government should stop this policy as it will come to the point that Japanese will be tired of foreigners and some bad things might happen.

What sort of bad things?

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I had to read this two times to understand. They are actually talking themselves up and patting themselves on their back then show totally disregard to their plight by using words like shoulder the expense ?? Like here is a hand out and thanks us. They could be reading this actual right now thinking. We made the wrong choice of country. Where Japan should be saying look we know your circumstances are bad for all of you but we like to help out by giving you all a hand up in this bad situation.

It is simply how Kyodo, you know, .... as usual...describes it. No need to react to the way Kyodo reports.

The post by finally rich is something to be taken into consideration when reading the article from media like Kyodo.

Been working with both japanese immigration and bar association for years and I risk to say 99% of the refugee applicants we meet there don't come from any country at war, neither are persecuted for any reason, everyone just wants to work here, or at the very least buy time to work and leave while their application is processed (can take years after many phony appeals), funny thing is that almost 100% of the refugee applicants detained at the immigration once had a visa and even lived here for a few years, but only realized they were "refugees" after they lost their visas, by divorcing, overstaying or commiting crimes.

I'm a drug smuggler in your country coming straight out of the prison but cant go back to my country, please give me a refugee status and a japanese passport so I can stay here indefinitely

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I had to read this two times to understand. They are actually talking themselves up and patting themselves on their back then show totally disregard to their plight by using words like shoulder the expense ?? Like here is a hand out and thanks us. They could be reading this actual right now thinking. We made the wrong choice of country. Where Japan should be saying look we know your circumstances are bad for all of you but we like to help out by giving you all a hand up in this bad situation.

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They are verifiable refugees, and when the war is over, most of them will return to Ukraine. Unlike those economic immigrants trying to get into Japan via making up wild stories and excuses.

And Ukrainians are generally intelligent and hard working people, they are welcome to stay in Japan!

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they will get ¥2800 a day! And visa! And accommodation! And free flight.

Wow, the narrow minded selfishness displayed here astounds me. They didn't ask to have their country invaded and their homes destroyed in return for a free flight to Japan and some petty cash.

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Remember Japans pension system is on the verge of collapsing as well and these evacuees getting 2,400¥ a day is more than what some pensioners ( who contributed to the national pension system for years ) are getting there…simply unfair and disgusting!"

Good point..now how about all those millions of housewives that never worked , never put a single yen into the system yet are eligible for a full pension...think there are bigger and more unfair issues with J pension system than 1000 Ukranians getting 2400yen daily for 6months.

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Rodney

Absolutely disgusting. I have zero income and survive on my life savings. Getting my PR visa took years. Before the corona virus I paid tax and now pay sales tax, land tax, health insurance.

As do I and my spouse. Yet, we are not jealous of or disgusted by the small act of kindness of the J-gov towards these victims. But, that's because we aren't selfish whiners who are only concerned with our own well-being. So, we welcome compassion towards others, and condemn selfishness and intolerance.

they will get ¥2800 a day! And visa! And accommodation! And free flight.

Good for them. Of course, it would be better if some power-hungry a-hole didn't send his military to invade and destroy their homeland. Then, they wouldn't need all that.

totally disgusting. Most asylum seeking get up to two years immigration detention, then deportation.

Yes, it is totally disgusting that "Most asylum seeking get up to two years immigration detention, then deportation."

they get the red carpet, even though their country has caused my living expenses to rise by 10-20%, and our government throwing away tax money for weapons and salaries in Ukraine, including neo-Nazis.

Their country hasn't caused anybody's living expenses to rise. You're thinking of Russia.

absolutely disgusting.

The only thing disgusting here is your attitude towards the plight of these victims.

I have been to many conflict zones so I understand their plight.

Obviously, you do not.

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Absolutely disgusting. I have zero income and survive on my life savings. Getting my PR visa took years. Before the corona virus I paid tax and now pay sales tax, land tax, health insurance.

they will get ¥2800 a day! And visa! And accommodation! And free flight.

totally disgusting. Most asylum seeking get up to two years immigration detention, then deportation.

they get the red carpet, even though their country has caused my living expenses to rise by 10-20%, and our government throwing away tax money for weapons and salaries in Ukraine, including neo-Nazis.

absolutely disgusting.

I have been to many conflict zones so I understand their plight. But they can simply walk over the border into Poland, where they can be safe.

Then why this man didn't go to another country? He has the choice to leave Japan. Why did he come all the way to the "disgusting" country, instead of his neighboring countries?

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Chabbawanga...

For sure. The mates rates Jgov will get on grain and fuel once the Ukraine crisis settles down will be more than worth a few thousand refugees

That's assuming the Ukrainians have a port left to export from.

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On one side it is positive that a country so closed to international refugees as Japan has begun to allow evacuees at least, on the other it is difficult to justify how the numbers are still so limited and so full of strings to prevent immigration after the war ends.

I only hope this is just the first step that signals a change towards a more humanitarian policy.

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2400¥ a day! Why does the gov here have to be sooo stingy,

There seem to be a lot of misconceptions regarding this ¥2400. It is completely separate from living costs, that are also being paid by the Govt. This “allowance” is what it is. Pure spending cash, and at 2400 a day is probably more than your average salaryman gets.

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Can you imagine what it would be like to have strangers break down the door of your house, barge in and tell you to get out . . . out of your own house?

Death to the invaders.

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1000 Ukranian evacuees vs 1 Afghan evacuees.

https://www.insider.com/japan-evacuated-only-one-out-500-planned-rescue-afghanistan-2021-8

Japan had a list of around 500 people it planned to evacuate from Afghanistan. Only one made it out.

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Are some of you people serious ? Literally zero empathy for others ? It’s not like the Ukrainians here had a lot of choices . Their entire peaceful lives have been turned upside down. This isn’t like life’s everyday ups and downs. This is a completely different kind of adversity. The utter lack of care about others is a plague that needs to be eradicated…. It’s not like these people just jumped on the free plane ride out of a war torn country and decided let’s go vacation in Japan … or any other country for that matter.

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2400 yen a day for food is plenty.

If your spending more than that daily, your living way too high on the hog .

It's a reasonable amount of daily allowance !

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Once Sofiia has status and can stay, she’ll dump Ol’ Tony and bring her husband in.

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Absolutely disgusting. I have zero income and survive on my life savings. Getting my PR visa took years. Before the corona virus I paid tax and now pay sales tax, land tax, health insurance. 

they will get ¥2800 a day! And visa! And accommodation! And free flight.

totally disgusting. Most asylum seeking get up to two years immigration detention, then deportation.

they get the red carpet, even though their country has caused my living expenses to rise by 10-20%, and our government throwing away tax money for weapons and salaries in Ukraine, including neo-Nazis.

absolutely disgusting.

I have been to many conflict zones so I understand their plight. But they can simply walk over the border into Poland, where they can be safe.

Totally agree with you on this one especially the final part! There is no need for them to go all the way to Japan when they can easily stay comfortably in Poland and nearby countries. Then going to Japan puts the extra burden on the taxpayers there and it simply isn’t fair! Remember Japans pension system is on the verge of collapsing as well and these evacuees getting 2,400¥ a day is more than what some pensioners ( who contributed to the national pension system for years ) are getting there…simply unfair and disgusting!

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These are the victims of a cruel bully. They deserve all the help we can give them.

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The average doc tor in Ukraine makes 300 dollars a month,these are professional salaries

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 without granting them refugee status.

That means after wer ends, go back home..

Japan is right on this. Its all about being a real refugee, with proof of persecution.

Been working with both japanese immigration and bar association for years and I risk to say 99% of the refugee applicants we meet there don't come from any country at war, neither are persecuted for any reason, everyone just wants to work here, or at the very least buy time to work and leave while their application is processed (can take years after many phony appeals), funny thing is that almost 100% of the refugee applicants detained at the immigration once had a visa and even lived here for a few years, but only realized they were "refugees" after they lost their visas, by divorcing, overstaying or commiting crimes.

I'm a drug smuggler in your country coming straight out of the prison but cant go back to my country, please give me a refugee status and a japanese passport so I can stay here indefinitely

Excellent comment !!..

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@Larr Flint

I actually can see it coming, hence it is Corona time and people are struggling. At some point, people might start to be unhappy that refugees get jobs, accommodation, and cash handouts while regular Taro has to suffer.

Even if it is not true people perceive things in their own way.

You can actually feel that a little bit already with corona restrictions and the way the Japanese people look at foreigners to be a potential threat of spreading the virus.

However, let's hope for the best.

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2400¥ a day! Why does the gov here have to be sooo stingy, it’s so sad for them to come here on a 3 month visa with a few coins thown at them, they’ll probably hit’em for their flights later. Would it hurt to give them 1man ¥ a day! On the scale of things it’s a drop in the ocean.

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@Larr Flint

Japanese will be tierd of foreigners and some bad things might happen

That's ridiculous.

There are many Japanese that are a bit xenophobic of foreigners which is understandable however i seriously doubt any Japanese will be treating the evacuees poorly or lashing out violently.

If that's what your insinuating.

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@Yubaru

Is this what the government here thinks is a daily living wage ?

First of all it's not a wage it's an allowance.

Obviously the government thinks 2400 yen is enough !

Because it is enough.

Definitely enough !

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The government should stop this policy as it will come to the point that Japanese will be tired of foreigners and some bad things might happen.

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I wonder if it'll receive quite the same fanfare when they get booted in a few months. Japan will say, "They are not refugees and their stay was limited," and maybe even, "We talked with Russian ministers and they gave us our word the Ukrainian people would not be targeted if sent back home."

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Absolutely disgusting. I have zero income and survive on my life savings. Getting my PR visa took years. Before the corona virus I paid tax and now pay sales tax, land tax, health insurance.

they will get ¥2800 a day! And visa! And accommodation! And free flight.

totally disgusting. Most asylum seeking get up to two years immigration detention, then deportation.

they get the red carpet, even though their country has caused my living expenses to rise by 10-20%, and our government throwing away tax money for weapons and salaries in Ukraine, including neo-Nazis.

absolutely disgusting.

I have been to many conflict zones so I understand their plight. But they can simply walk over the border into Poland, where they can be safe.

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For sure. The mates rates Jgov will get on grain and fuel once the Ukraine crisis settles down will be more than worth a few thousand refugees.

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YubaruToday  07:26 am JST

The government provides daily living allowances of up to 2,400 yen to the evacuees who do not have any relatives or acquaintances to turn to. It also helps them to be accepted by municipalities and companies.

Is this what the government here thinks is a daily living wage?

yes, it's not a huge amount Yubaru, but my guess is that many many Japanese are living on a pension of about that (¥72,000 or so a month) after having paid for nenkin for donkeys' years.... probably plenty of arbeiters too....

(not being judgemental in any way shape or form, just stating facts, I'll leave the value-judgements to others)

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But be that as it may, from the sound of what you wrote, being in the middle of a shooting war isn't enough "proof" for you huh?

Coming from a war-torn country and not been living in Japan for years before claiming asylum is more than enough, hence they are roaming free in Japan while getting processed. Without any concrete proof, these people would be sent to either one of the 2 supermax immigration centers in Ibaraki and Nagasaki

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Japan is right on this. Its all about being a real refugee, with proof of persecution.

Semantics here are important. These people are classified as "evacuees" and not "refugees", and in either case, Japan has a very poor track record of accepting either!

But be that as it may, from the sound of what you wrote, being in the middle of a shooting war isn't enough "proof" for you huh?

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Amazing for Japan perhaps…

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Amazing milestone

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Japan has often faced criticism for being conservative in accepting refugees. In the latest Justice Ministry figure for 2021, out of 2,413 asylum seekers, 74 people were recognized as refugees under the provisions of Japan's immigration control and refugee recognition law.

Another 580, compared with 44 in the previous year, were permitted to be in Japan for humanitarian reasons even though they were not granted refugee status.

Japan is right on this. Its all about being a real refugee, with proof of persecution.

Been working with both japanese immigration and bar association for years and I risk to say 99% of the refugee applicants we meet there don't come from any country at war, neither are persecuted for any reason, everyone just wants to work here, or at the very least buy time to work and leave while their application is processed (can take years after many phony appeals), funny thing is that almost 100% of the refugee applicants detained at the immigration once had a visa and even lived here for a few years, but only realized they were "refugees" after they lost their visas, by divorcing, overstaying or commiting crimes.

I'm a drug smuggler in your country coming straight out of the prison but cant go back to my country, please give me a refugee status and a japanese passport so I can stay here indefinitely

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The government provides daily living allowances of up to 2,400 yen to the evacuees who do not have any relatives or acquaintances to turn to. It also helps them to be accepted by municipalities and companies.

Is this what the government here thinks is a daily living wage?

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Japan suddenly now interested to welcome evacuees and refugee from abroad?

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/Ukraine-war-tests-Japan-s-refugee-policy-that-admits-just-1

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