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Obama offers condolences to Abe over slain hostage

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I love how Japan is still "reviewing an online video that (only) purports to show his death"

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Maybe if Obama hant pulled the US troops out if the area, IS may not have been able to take the territory it has, kidnap and kill at will, maybe obama is responsible for this and other beheadings.

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@StormR Maybe if Dubya and his Daddy never set foot in Iraq in the first place we would not be in this quagmire,maybe all those troops would also never have been put in harms way. And even if the troops were pulled out it would not make much of a difference,it would still be a free for all since these people have been waging holy wars for centuries.

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Yukawa was a militant of the Islamic Front, and was captured in battle, and pretty handy firing an assault rifle, according to the videos he made. The IF aims to make sharia supreme and is anti democracy.

Hello? These are the people we are fighting, not helping. There should be no condolences from leaders of civilized countries, just as there are no condolences when Islamist militants from the UK or France are killed over there.

Being Japanese doesn't mean an automatic exemption.

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Thanks Obama

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First post at this site. I'd like to say how upset I am over the death of this innocent person Haruna Yukawa.

I was re-reading Samuel P. Huntington's 1993 classic Clash of Civilizations, and I certainly fear the world is being divided along cultural, ethnic and religious fault lines, just as he predicted!

Also, in times like these, we have to fear both the extreme Left (who embrace multiculturalism for its own sake, regardless of its negative consequences) as well as the extreme Right (who will use such attacks to stir up fear and further their own exclusionary and militaristic agendas.) The next few years are going to be challenging times, to say the least!

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@StormR I'm sure if the troops had only stayed on a few more years that would have given the murderous fanatics enough time to sit, reflect and realise a secular, democratic, inclusive government is the way forward and embraced their former enemies. Unless you're prepared to accept an endless occupation with troops returning home in bodybags or missing a few limbs and draining the coffers you've got to see this area for what it is. They've been killing other for centuries and nothing anybody from the outside, or probably inside for that matter, can do will stop it.

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These Jihadist know our vulnerability, we live our lives in a society that values family. If a member of my family was held hostage under the same circumstances, it would be dishonest in not acknowledging Abe San predicament, I would do everything to persuade Jordan to exchange.

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salvor:

I'd like to say how upset I am over the death of this innocent person Haruna Yukawa.

And I'd like to say that Yukawa was not exactly there as a journalist.

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Richard bHard

@StormR Maybe if Dubya and his Daddy never set foot in Iraq in the first place we would not be in this quagmire,maybe all those troops would also never have been put in harms way.

Exactly, atleast saddam was able to keep the different factions in line

WMD !

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Obama offers condolences to Abe over slain hostage. Shouldn't the offers of condolences be directed to Haruna Yukawa's parents & family, rather than just to Abe?

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"Maybe if Dubya and his Daddy never set foot in Iraq in the first place we would not be in this quagmire..."

No.

"...it would still be a free for all since these people have been waging holy wars for centuries."

Yes.

"atleast saddam was able to keep the different factions in line"

Yeah! And he was able to start the Iran-Iraq war, invade Kuwait, gas the Kurds...

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Resting in peace, por boys. All the world are under the atack of the IS, we are the victims, Spain both

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Perhaps these two links will help you understand the origin of many wars and conflicts.

http://www.michaeljournal.org/nwo1.htm

http://www.michaeljournal.org/nwo2.htm

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Pukey 2: "And I'd like to say that Yukawa was not exactly there as a journalist."

What's your point? Do you believe that he wouldn't have been a hostage, had he been a journalist? Obviously not, judging by the journalist Goto's situation.

Jimizo: "I'm sure if the troops had only stayed on a few more years that would have given the murderous fanatics enough time to sit, reflect and realise a secular, democratic, inclusive government is the way forward and embraced their former enemies."

I'm sure you're being sarcastic, but you should know that's exactly what the documentary makers over at Frontline concluded. Perhaps you ought to watch their documentary, The Rise Of ISIS? You'll learn that it was only once American forces were prematurely pulled out of the country in 2011 by Obama (without a Status of Forces agreement in place and more to fulfill Obama's election promises than anything else), things began to get much, much worse. So yeah, maybe if the US had stayed a few months or even a year or more into the future, the situation both there and in neighboring Syria might've turned out very differently.

http://video.pbs.org/program/frontline/episodes/

From the documentary: JUST ONE DAY after the last US troops were out of Iraq, Maliki immediately started purging all the top Sunni politicians and military men from power, from a Vice President on down, and the Sunni tribal leaders eventually responded by supporting another Sunni insurgency, this time reappearing from the raging Syrian battlefront. Would the border with Syria have been as easy to cross or as dangerous had the Americans still been there to support the Sunni tribes who had "decimated" their Sunni extremist brethren (rather than the mostly Shiite Iraqi Army?) Quite possibly.

Another quote: "The response that he (Maliki) got from Obama was that this was an internal affair, and Maliki saw this as a green light in terms of what he could do with the Sunnis because the United States was not going to stand in his way." Also, "after the departure of the Americans, more and more Sunnis turned up on the streets of Baghdad dead. Maliki enraged the tribal leaders of the Sunni Awakening, the tribesmen who, in exchange for American cash and promises of political inclusion, helped defeat al-Qaeda years earlier." As for the proto-ISIS (at that time known as al-Qaeda in Iraq,) "...it was not much of a force. The "surge" and the Sunni Awakening had seriously reduced it." "Remember, by the time the Americans left Iraq, the insurgency was broken. It was on its last legs." And, "ISIS didn't become the group it is today until it went to Syria."

Everyone else, too: give this documentary a watch. It's very graphic but very instructive. There's plenty of blame to go around for everyone, that's for sure!

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Remember 9/11 and what Karl Rove, (Bush Aide who spilled the beans), said?

The aide commented, "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality ... we'll act again, creating other new realities... . We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." The links I provided you will explain what that reality is.

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'Yeah! And he was able to start the Iran-Iraq war, invade Kuwait, gas the Kurds...'

He certainly was able to start the Iran-Iraq war with conventional arms supplied by the western powers. I wonder where he got those chemical weapons from. His local pharmacy?

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All readers back on topic please.

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These filthy ISIS members will get severe punishment by the almighty. May that japanese victim gets peace. Love you Japan. Will always love u....:-(

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JeffLee:

" Yukawa was a militant of the Islamic Front, and was captured in battle, and pretty handy firing an assault rifle, according to the videos he made. The IF aims to make sharia supreme and is anti democracy. "

You are right about the Islamic Front, but you are wrong about Yukawa, Did you see his videos and FB page? The guy was a clueless weapons otaku who wanted to get some street creed among his otaku friends and went in over his head. The guy was hardly a "militant", more like a clueless fool.

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"The guy was hardly a "militant",

He was captured in battle, while fighting on the side of the Islamic Front. He was indeed a militant.

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