Pacific islands, Japan strongly oppose status quo change by force

The last time status quo changed by force was the first half of the 20th century by Japan, the USA (and maybe Australia?). It's not a well known part of the world that's for sure.

It's not a well known part of the world that's for sure.

Perhaps you should expand your horizons a little, outside of cheering on Communist China and Fascist Russia. The Asia-Pacific nations are very well known to many of us.

Oh, Fighto! so much energy but brains? I'll leave that to you. Pacific Island nations are poor and truly not visited or known by most. These are facts. Let's look at GDP per capital for Fiji and Samoa for example, $5,800 for Fiji and $4,100 for Samoa to show two example.

Ideology blinds many to facts.

Assumably the Pacific Islands Forum members present at this meeting are all UN- recognized sovereign states, and not breakaway states/provinces, in which case war and violence is perfectly acceptable for reunification (as in other parts of the world right now).

Pacific Island nations are poor and truly not visited or known by most. These are facts. Let's look at GDP per capital for Fiji and Samoa for example, $5,800 for Fiji and $4,100 for Samoa to show two example.

Lets show a few more then.

GDP per capita for Russia 2024 is $10,681. China $13,136. Japan $33,138. Australia $66,589

Pacific island states and Japan on Thursday said they "expressed strong opposition to any unilateral attempts to change the status quo by the threat or use of force or coercion", in a veiled reference to China

Expressed strong opposition, really ? How?

Expressed strong opposition, really ? How?

Maybe, you should read carefully. Here is one example!!

Palau's national security coordinator Jennifer Anson this week expressed hope for Japanese support in maritime surveillance to track Chinese research vessels in Palau's exclusive economic zone.

@ deanza, JJE, Wandora -

If you are ignorant of the Asia-Pacific nations - and do not even know that they are indeed sovereign - that is on you.

war and violence is perfectly acceptable for reunification (as in other parts of the world right now).

In the thinking of fascist Russia, Communist China, and their followers, violence as a solution to disputes undoubtedly rings true.

Not for those of us from democratic, peace-loving nations who follow rule of law.

WiseOneIn Kansai

Today 08:51 pm JST

Expressed strong opposition, really ? How?

> Maybe, you should read carefully. Here is one example!!

> Palau's national security coordinator Jennifer Anson this week expressed hope for Japanese support in maritime surveillance to track Chinese research vessels in Palau's exclusive economic zone.

Lol how's that a strong opposition?

peter:

GDP per capita for Russia 2024 is $10,681. China $13,136. Japan $33,138. Australia $66,589

Nice try. But next time, try looking at GDP by purchasing power parity.

If someone in Oz earns twice as much as someone in China, but everything in Oz costs 5 times as much as in China, who do you think will have a better quality of life?

BTW, China's GDP by PPP is over 20 times that of Oz.

Gambare:

Not for those of us from democratic, peace-loving nations who follow rule of law.

Peace-loving? Ask the Palestinians.

peter:

GDP per capita for Russia 2024 is $10,681. China $13,136. Japan $33,138. Australia $66,589

Nice try. But next time, try looking at GDP by purchasing power parity.

Why? That was not the template mentioned in the post I was replying to.

If someone in Oz earns twice as much as someone in China, but everything in Oz costs 5 times as much as in China, who do you think will have a better quality of life?

Take a look at any survey you like based on quality of life or livability of cities and you will find in each and every one that Australia, New Zealand and Japan, and their cities are ranked much much higher than China and its cities. So the Pacific has some nations that are doing just fine. They compare favorably with any nation anywhere as great places to live.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

BTW, China's GDP by PPP is over 20 times that of Oz.

China has the second largest economy while Australia is thirteenth, and a population of 1.4 billion to 27 million so ppp is skewed and does not provide an acurate pictue. Sure, most things are cheaper in China, most things are made there, worlds factory and all that. An Australian can take his/her yearly salary to China and after conversion to local currency, who can purchase more? My money is on the Australian who earns much more than his Chinese counterpart with identical employment.

JJEJuly 18 06:31 pm JST

Assumably the Pacific Islands Forum members present at this meeting are all UN- recognized sovereign states, and not breakaway states/provinces, in which case war and violence is perfectly acceptable for reunification (as in other parts of the world right now).

The fact you believe Ukraine is fighting separatists with supposedly domestically made Su-57s says it all. How come those separatists don't even have a Potemkin country anymore?

Pukey2July 18 10:26 pm JST

BTW, China's GDP by PPP is over 20 times that of Oz.

Per capita is a thing and is important.

In January, PIF member Nauru cut ties with Taiwan in favor of China -- leaving only 12 states worldwide that recognize Taipei diplomatically, including Palau, another PIF member.

As the article indicates, Nauru clearly decided against ongoing recognition of separatists.

JJEToday 02:01 am JST

In January, PIF member Nauru cut ties with Taiwan in favor of China -- leaving only 12 states worldwide that recognize Taipei diplomatically, including Palau, another PIF member.

As the article indicates, Nauru clearly decided against ongoing recognition of separatists.

Someday you'll get to zero recognition for Taiwan. Or you won't. Not like it matters.

Oh, I see.

Some separatists are good, others not so.

How convenient.

JJEToday 02:21 am JST

Oh, I see.

Some separatists are good, others not so.

How convenient.

Taiwan is not held by separatists. It is held by the legitimate government of China, even if they want to change the name.

Not even this pathetic flea show of the decadent US circus is going to stop the great Mother China..

Get used to it..

Taiwan is not held by separatists. It is held by the legitimate government of China, even if they want to change the name.

https://giphy.com/gifs/chicken-bro-WO69ltlJZp0ZwI98kN

TokyoLivingToday 03:18 am JST

China literally will not have bases in the region.

Get used to it..

Remember when the Pacific nations were known as "tropical paradise " ?

Now the big powers see them as "pawns in paradise "

All nations interfering deserve an uppercut.

There seems to be an old link between Chiang KaiShek KMT troops and the opium/heroin trade in the Golden Triangle.

Taiwan ?

Any thoughts.

Shouldn't it read PILM10?

GuruMickToday  06:38 am JST

There seems to be an old link between Chiang KaiShek KMT troops and the opium/heroin trade in the Golden Triangle.

Taiwan ?

Any thoughts.

Sounds like a fine story from what, the 1940s?

At least until the USA was in Vietnam...so a little closer than 1940

KMT decendents are still causing problems with mafia activity and armed forces in northern Myanmar.

GuruMickToday  07:29 am JST

deanzaZZRToday  07:47 am JST

That's great and all but Taiwan continues to set the example of what China could have been.

separatists?

great mother China?

KMT descendents?

Some of you guys are funny!

Anyway, the majority of the countries in the Pacific Islands have spoken, the middle kingdom should act like a respectable member of the international community.

From your lips to God's ears.

China should behave more like a big brother, and less like a big bully.

Just type in Chinese... you guys are not fooling anyone.

Let me help "Horray for Winnie the Pooh!!" 小熊维尼，去吧！