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U.S. eyes Japanese shipyards for warship overhauls, says U.S. ambassador

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The Taiwan conflict will be a naval and air conflict. Best to full preparedness in each of those realms.

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*have full

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Who really doing maintenance and overhauls? Are they really done by Japanese especially with labor shortage, no just use Vietnamese trainees cheap labor to do that.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-trends/Don-t-use-foreign-trainees-to-fix-labor-shortage-Japan-s-new-law

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Good morning, Sakurasuki; That article looks very interesting, but NIKKEI Asia requires a paid subscription...

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@3RENSHO

You can check another article that shows sectors in Japan that having shortage and get blue collar worker from abroad.

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2019/06/19/japan-opens-its-doors-to-foreign-labour/

https://apjjf.org/2020/18/Tran.html

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This will create more jobs for Japanese engineers. This deal makes sense. If you aren't going to defend your country, then at least put a fresh coat of paint above and below the waterline.

Can you check the props and turbines while you're down there?

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Who really doing maintenance and overhauls? Are they really done by Japanese especially with labor shortage, no just use Vietnamese trainees cheap labor to do that.

Do you mean cleaning the bathroom at the shipyards?

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Good idea, shipyards in the region need experience with supporting their military allies.

Regarding Taiwan, no amount of naval power will be able stop Chinese aggression if we're honest. Surface Ships = just target practice for their MANY missiles.

Now submarines might be able to delay the inevitable Chinese conquest of Taiwan a bit, say a week or two.

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HopeSpringsEternalToday 10:20 am JST

Now submarines might be able to delay the inevitable Chinese conquest of Taiwan a bit, say a week or two.

There's nothing "inevitable" about it at all. That is a standard CCP propaganda line.

This CSIS study predicts massive losses on all side, with China eventually failing, as the most likely outcome.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/taiwan-invasion-war-game-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

Feel free to link another study more in line with Xi Jinping Thought, if you wish.

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sakurasukiToday 06:50 am JST

Who really doing maintenance and overhauls? Are they really done by Japanese especially with labor shortage, no just use Vietnamese trainees cheap labor to do that

Not sure you have a really good grasp of what that entails.

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Redtail SwiftToday  08:14 am JST

This will create more jobs for Japanese engineers. This deal makes sense. If you aren't going to defend your country, then at least put a fresh coat of paint above and below the waterline.

What makes you think the Japanese aren't going to defend their country?

"Japan signs agreement to purchase 400 Tomahawk missiles from U.S."

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/japan-signs-agreement-to-purchase-400-tomahawk-missiles-as-us-envoy-lauds-its-defense-buildup

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Marc LoweToday  10:33 am JST

Despite the misnomer, utilizing Japan's 2nd rate ship repair facilities (Korea is #1) is a good thing.

Don'tknow where you get you misinformation but Japan's shipyards started in the late 1800s. South Korea's in the 1970s when Hyundai first got help from Kawasaki Heavy Industries. In terms of shipyard capability Japan is miles ahead of South Korea. Do not confuse building capacity with capability. Otherwise China would be your "first rate" which we all know it is not.

USN ships will be maintained in Japan where it is closer to USN presence at Yokosuka. South Korea is still techincally at war with North Korea and poses a risk.

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They used to use Japanese dry docks to do overhauls in the past. With the current Yen exchange rate, this should be an easy decision.

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Sounds like a win-win situation.

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The United States and Japan are looking to make a deal for Japanese shipyards to regularly overhaul and maintain U.S. Navy warships so they can stay in Asian waters ready for any potential conflict...

A very good idea.

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Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the US leverage Japanese industry for not only ship overhauls but also for munitions manufacturing. It's a win-win

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Looks like a great way to subsidize the purchase of things like F-35's and tomahawks for Japan. Might even turn a profit. Lots of US ships needing work. Seventy based in Japan and others based elsewhere like Guam, Hawaii could all be serviced in Japan's shipyards. Freeing those yard to build new ships only. All the allies should combine their capacities. Would require standardization of quality on the work, but it could be done. No shipyard need be idle with so much work to do.

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All the allies should combine their capacities. Would require standardization of quality on the work, but it could be done.

From hands on experience on JMSDF ships, the Japanese yards already build warships to US Navy standards. I have been on the warships of a number of foreign navies and was always amazed to see just how closely the Japanese warships matched US Navy practice in all manner or things from water tight doors, to the explosion proof lighting, electrical switches and sound powered phones (they work when the power is out and can communicate through flooded compartments or past a fire, as long as the cable run is intact). The equipment was in most cases identical to US Navy equipment. Equipment labels were in English and their labeling systems for ventilation, hatches, doors, etc (depending on the situation all openings with an X, Y or Z on them have to be closed) etc, followed standard US Navy practice. Japanese shipyards would be an excellent choice for US Navy ships to be overhauled.

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an indeed good idea. please proceed with it ASAP. Japan US stand together always.

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TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  06:38 am JST

The Taiwan conflict will be a naval and air conflict. Best to full preparedness in each of those realms.

Are you crazy? where are you pushing Japan with your comments. Such a small island, beautiful, kind country, with excellent, friendly inhabitants, will not be able to fight with large countries for a long time. Japan is not threatened by anyone, so the best option for it is not to interfere in any conflicts, but to live peacefully with all its neighbors.

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HopeSpringsEternalToday 10:20 am JST

Regarding Taiwan, no amount of naval power will be able stop Chinese aggression if we're honest. Surface Ships = just target practice for their MANY missiles.

My understanding is the ships are basically platforms to launch the missiles that will give China a very bad day. You might as well say that China's navy will be useless in a Taiwan conflict.

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Japan is not threatened by anyone, so the best option for it is not to interfere in any conflicts, but to live peacefully with all its neighbors.

Only your wrong. Japan is already being threatened by china who is making claims on Japanese territory by sending warships into Japanese territory, and planes as well. To deny the facts of that is to show you are not really on Japan's side at all, but are a supporter of China.

Japan cant live peacefully with a neighbor that is threatening Japanese sovereignty, as well as threatening other Japanese neighbors with the same belligerence.

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Japan is not threatened by anyone, so the best option for it is not to interfere in any conflicts, but to live peacefully with all its neighbors.

Ukraine thought this before 2014, and even to some degree as late as 2022. Then it changed and the rest is history.

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@Tokyoite when has there ever been peace on this earth? It will never happen neighbor’s can’t live in peace.

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Ah, good old CSIS. Let's look at its funding, shall we. CSIS does not divulge funding sources for some reason but research has been done. Bottomline is CSIS, Brookings, etc. these days simply parrot the State Department and provide a veneer of academic credibility.

The Center for Strategic and International Studies CSIS lists major funding from defense contractors such as Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon Company and General Atomics.

Wiki

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Japan's territorial waters and airspace are routinely violated by China and Russia. Unless they stop it, it is hard to say that the threat is gone from Japan. Peace will not come unless China gives up on the Senkaku Islands and Russia returns the four northern islands.

Amelia's 7th Fleet's home port is Yokosuka, Japan, where they have been performing maintenance so far, but I think they are planning to accept other ships as well for maintenance.

Japan not only maintains its own ships, but also maintains its own F-35s, and there are no particular technical problems. Australia and Japan are the only countries in Asia that can perform this kind of maintenance outside of the United States.

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