U.S. looking for ways to reduce nuclear risk with China

Desert Tortoise (Today  10:37 am JST),

I haven't forgotten Israel. It was always in my mind. But I didn't know about South Africa, Sweden and Turkey, which you mention in your post. Maybe, the list will keep going on and on in the future. 

Also, my question is who added fuel to the fire of the myth that nuclear weapons are good for one's country.

I also want to point out that Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings were carried out as a sort of experiment and so part of the Manhattan Project.  They were carried out in so short a period of time after the first atomic bomb was detonated at the New Mexico test site.

So, the U.S. is inconveniently reaping what it sowed in 1945.

The US was not alone developing nuclear weapons. According to some info that was declassified in the mid 1980s and shown to us during some nuclear weapons training (much to our surprise !) Japan was possibly ahead of the US until a B-29 attack missed their intended target and unbeknownst to the bomber crew blew up a Japanese nuclear lab. That set back may have changed the course of WWII because Japan intended to use nuclear armed Kamakazis on the US fleet when the expected invasion of Kyushu materialized.

The so-called P-5 countries are those 5 countries that have nuclear arsenals. India, Pakistan and North Korea have joined that nuclear weapons club thereafter.

You forgot Israel which might have something on the order of 400 warheads, South Africa which had six operational gun type uranium bombs, one more under construction and another training device, and possibly Sweden whos Prime Minister publicly renounced their program in 1970, but only after conducting ten underground tests. Who knows what the Swedes might have stashed away in a cave somewhere? Turkey is another country with an active nuclear weapons program combined with a significant ballistic missile program that seems to fly under the radar and Brazil may be another nuclear aspirant. They have their first nuclear powered sub under construction with French help.

The U.S. exploded its first atomic bomb on July 16, 1945 in New Mexico, and actually used the weapons in less than a month, first on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945 and then on Nagasaki on August 9, 1945.

The Soviet Union followed suit. They successfully tested their first atomic bomb on August 29, 1949. Then followed the U.K. (Oct. 3, 1952), France (Feb. 13, 1960) and China (Oct. 16, 1964).

The so-called P-5 countries are those 5 countries that have nuclear arsenals. India, Pakistan and North Korea have joined that nuclear weapons club thereafter.

So, the U.S. is inconveniently reaping what it sowed in 1945.

Great, another reference to a blog as a supposedly legitimate source

FAS stands for Federation of American Scientists. They are a very old organization and their research is authoritative. We even cite their research in the military.

https://fas.org/

There are nine countries with nuclear weapons, not five. Maybe we should start with that.

when you have head of china think tank Victor Gao literally threatening nuclear strikes on Australia after it announced it was going to obtain nuclear POWERED subs, not nuclear ARMED subs, there is serious cause for concern, globally (like, what other diplomat ON THE PLANET speaks like this and gets away with it, other than a chinese or NK one)

as the internal situation deteriorates and spirals further out of control in china, there will be more and more itchy fingers stretching for the big red button, just to prove to its internal populace that "china strong." it knows there will be no winner, but just as with mao's disastrous great leap backwards and devolution, china will have no qualms about taking down the rest of humanity along with its cesspool of lies. the more desperate they become, the more the lid covering that big red button becomes meaningless.

Somebodies in the USA cannot tell the difference between N.korea and China.

The simplest way to deal with the communist menace is to cut off the cash flow. I'm strongly anti China but even I think a tactical preemptive strike is too far. Even if it does mean saving western civilisation as we know it. We can't just use the nuclear option because it suits us. Besides, there are plenty of innocent lives at stake. They didn't choose to be born under Xis dictatorship.

U.S. looking for ways to reduce nuclear risk with China

Easy... get rid of the Democrat regime in the US!

China is in the process of building something close to 250 new missile silos at three sites in northwest China. Each of those silos will hold an ICBM with potentially 8 or 10 separate warheads.

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/11/a-closer-look-at-chinas-missile-silo-construction/

Great, another reference to a blog as a supposedly legitimate source. And even in this blog article, this is what they say "In this article we use words like suspected, apparent, and probable to remind the reader of that fact." In the meantime, the US already has more than 3,000.

The US has 3,750 nuclear warheads, China has around 200. All America has to do is destroy 3,550 of its own and they can achieve parity.

China is in the process of building something close to 250 new missile silos at three sites in northwest China. Each of those silos will hold an ICBM with potentially 8 or 10 separate warheads.

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/11/a-closer-look-at-chinas-missile-silo-construction/

There are two new fast neutron reactors being built on a small island off Fujian that are potentially capable of producing a great deal of weapons grade plutonium very quickly.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/5/19/concerns-grow-over-china-nuclear-reactors-shrouded-in-mystery

Not hard to put two and two together and see where China is going in terms of their nuclear weapons program.

U.S. looking for ways to reduce nuclear risk with China

Just decommission a few thousand missles then-it is not rocket science

(pun intended)

The US has 3,750 nuclear warheads, China has around 200. All America has to do is destroy 3,550 of its own and they can achieve parity.

I am not sure that there is any room for negotiation efforts with China in that they are communists. Less we forget.