U.S. to keep supporting Ukraine if Trump returns to power: Pompeo

Of course we will. It's what we do.

Make Ukraine great again!

Pompeo said in a speech in Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies and partners during Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

Really? Afghanistan ring any bells?

Pompeo said in a speech in Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies and partners during Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021

MAGA surrenders have already tied the aid to poison pills. They've already walked away.

Mr KiplingToday  07:31 am JST

Pompeo said in a speech in Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies and partners during Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

Really? Afghanistan ring any bells?

The Afghan government fell in like two weeks. Ukraine is going on 700 days.

This is the same Mike Pompeo who in 2019 threatened that US agencies would intervene in British politics to prevent Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister.

https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/the-us-just-threatened-to-move-against-corbyn-where-is-the-outrage/

Pompeo later admitted that as CIA director he "lied, cheated and stole".

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/We-Lied-Cheated-and-Stole-Pompeo-Comes-Clean-About-CIA-20190424-0033.html

Nothing these people say can be trusted. Anyone who trusts them is a fool.

What the heck is he talking about?

Trump says he would call Putin and end it in one phone call.

The fact is that the vast majority of the global right wing have amassed negative views of Ukraine, and much of the global anti-colonial left wing too.

The real action and need is from Israel against the Middle East.

Another Trump apologist … talking from both sides of his mouth!

The more shells and weapons they give to Ukraine, the brighter Ukraine burns. If you don't believe me, come see for yourself. This problem cannot be solved by war, how can one fail to understand this. Ukraine will never become a NATO member. Give all the money in the world and still Ukraine will not be a member of NATO; even children understand this.)))

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nik

This problem cannot be solved by war, how can one fail to understand this.

The problem is the war. A war started by Putin, when Russian forces invaded Ukraine. How can one fail to understand that?

Ukraine will never become a NATO member.

Why not? NATO certainly seems open to it. The biggest obstacle would be negotiating with Russia, which would no doubt include a provision against it.

US "support" has wrecked Ukraine, they've had enough of it.

You see, there's nothing to worry about regarding Trump, it's all political bias. Besides, anyone think things are going so swimmingly in Ukraine now?

Let's see massive depopulation, infrastructure destruction, minefields as far as eye can see, economic collapse with most estimating private non foreign based support real economy just 20% of pre. Feb 2022.

In other words, Ukraine's lost economic output is well over $1 Billion per day and growing, as society collapses versus pre. Feb 2022 and people head for the exits.

Just maybe Trump's their best shot, and Putin will listen. Crystal clear to all Biden's not seeking any resolution.

'weeeeellll,, we will see about that. I'm a little skeptical. Hopeful, but skeptical.

@Kipling

Afghanistan was a cold war between China and the US, and the US have never won a cold war with China. The Chinese were covertly funding the Taliban to get rid of the US military from the borders of China.

I think the US should focus more on the Middle East conflict than Ukraine. They need to send more aid to Israel, and it's Israel who needs to keep fighting until the hostages are freed.

"never seen" Washington "walk away"

No one wants to walk away from Ukraine, but EVERYONE want's an end to DEATH and DISTRUTION, so how about negotiating and start talking PEACE and put these war mongers out of business.

Support Ukraine only if it wants PEACE, NO WARS.

Pompeo obviously needs a serious reality check, or does he not listen to the news. Trump admires and praises dictators and strongmen like Putin, Lukashenko, Victor Orban (most recently), Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un... And said he could make a deal with Russia to end the war in 24 hours. He will sell out Ukraine. That part is obviously clear.

I thought Trump was going to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. Oh, another empty promise that his brain dead followers believe.

Former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Tuesday the United States is likely to continue its financial and military support for Ukraine in its fight against Russia's invasion if former Republican President Donald Trump returns to the White House.

Interesting...so Mikey is all in on supporting Ukraine - just like Nikki Haley and Mitch McConnell...

While all our MAGA-commenters here are dead set against any more aid....

So is Pompeo a RINO NEOCON who is now shunned from MAGA-world?

So is Pompeo a RINO NEOCON who is now shunned from MAGA-world?

I'd term Mikkey P. realist, surfing looking at the waves TODAY, not hard core ideological. Trump respects him, there a lot alike only Mikkey's not rich and a narcissist.

I often wonder, who exactly on JT's been 1600?

Nobody I expect, certainly not in professional capacity.

The usual pro-Putin, disinformation-filled comments, I see.

VillanovaToday 08:08 am JST

The fact is that the vast majority of the global right wing have amassed negative views of Ukraine, and much of the global anti-colonial left wing too.

This is a very dubious "fact." Do you have any evidence to back it up?

I think the US should focus more on the Middle East conflict than Ukraine.

Luckily the US can do, and is doing, both.

nikToday 08:13 am JST

The more shells and weapons they give to Ukraine, the brighter Ukraine burns.

No, the more the Russian invaders burn.

Ukraine will never become a NATO member.

And how do you know this exactly?

Wick's pencilToday 08:37 am JST

US "support" has wrecked Ukraine, they've had enough of it.

No, the support has saved lives and is holding back the Russian invaders. Ukraine is asking for more of it, not less.

MarkToday 09:04 am JST

Support Ukraine only if it wants PEACE, NO WARS.

It does want peace. Just as soon as the Russian invaders get out of its country, and that includes occupied Crimea. Until then, Ukraine will rightly fight those invaders.

Pompeo just brown nosing for his old job back!

Fake news.

Trump will betray Ukraine because Putin will tell him to.

He desperately wants to be Vlad’s bumchum.

I wouldn’t bet on Pompeo’s claim.

Trump and Putin are joined at the hip, that is if Trump gets re-elected.

@hope: anyone think things are going so swimmingly in Ukraine now?

No, most reasonable people around the globe are fully aware that the Russian Federation invaded Ukraine starting a brutal war that has destroyed large parts of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, and most believe things will improve, probably not go swimmingly, after Russia and its warmongering partners send their baby-killing rapists and their supporters back into sovereign Russian territory.

Well, maybe Pompeo wants to give this message to the Repubs who are doing the best they can to sabotage highly needed support for Ukraine at this time. Or is it just words, words, words and nothing but words? Give Ukraine what Ukraine needs now! And by the way, yes, right the "if" in the headline is very important! Got my doubts it will ever happen!

Ukraine prevails!

Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies

Yes, but we;ve never seen a President attempt to overturn the results of an election through crimnal acts. So there's a first for everything.

Besides, how would Mike know? Trump can change his mind on any suject at any time depending emtirely on how he benefits from his position financially and politically.

Trump was simply not fit for President in 2016, Today, he and his crazed MAGA crowd are a threat ti the United States itself. Especially Republican politicians and voters who keep giving him power.

Pompeo said in a speech in Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies and partners during Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

Really? Afghanistan ring any bells?

It pains me to be saying something in defence of Trump, but the US walked away from Afghanistan under Biden, not him, so Pompeo's statement is factually correct on that point.

Mr. Trump was impeached the first time over this issue. If he were to take office again he would likely face a Congress that would impeach him over this issue again.

I don't expect to see him in office again, but he is using surrogates in the current Congress to disrupt aid to Ukraine now. That will not be possible in January, if not sooner.

Wick's pencilToday 08:37 am JST

US "support" has wrecked Ukraine, they've had enough of it.

Ukraine quite literally has not. I don't see demonstrations on the streets of Kyiv, do you?

rainydayToday 11:45 am JST

Pompeo said in a speech in Tokyo that he had "never seen" Washington "walk away" from its allies and partners during Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

Really? Afghanistan ring any bells?

It pains me to be saying something in defence of Trump, but the US walked away from Afghanistan under Biden, not him, so Pompeo's statement is factually correct on that point.

After 20 years and trillions of dollars, Afghanistan was never going to be a success story.

nikToday 08:13 am JST

The more shells and weapons they give to Ukraine, the brighter Ukraine burns.

No, the US and NATO shells make the Russian burn.

If you don't believe me, come see for yourself.

You have the easy ticket to the frontline available to you.

This problem cannot be solved by war, how can one fail to understand this.

Why does only Russia get to take things by war? Are the defeats in 1917/18 and Afghanistan not enough to make you realize you aren't invincible?

Ukraine will never become a NATO member.

They already have all of the hardware a NATO member would have and then some.

Give all the money in the world and still Ukraine will not be a member of NATO; even children understand this.)))

Weaponry is more important than a piece of paper and the weapons aren't going anywhere no how much you and Putin stomp the ground.

After 20 years and trillions of dollars, Afghanistan was never going to be a success story.

True, it was a lost cause almost from the start.

But the point at issue here is whether Pompeo's statement that under a potential second Trump term Trump would just abandon Ukraine or not.

I'm not sure about that nor do I think Trump himself is. There are some parallels with Afghanistan - in the 2016 campaign he kept saying that the US should get out and that he had a secret plan to succesfully end the war. That all proved to be BS when he actually became president and more or less stuck with the status quo, probably because he wanted to avoid looking bad/weak if he withdrew and the Afghan government quickly collapsed (which in fact it ultimately did).

His position on Ukraine might evolve the same way - he's spouting a lot of BS about being able to end the war the second he takes over, but he clearly doesn't have any viable plan to do so short of just stepping back and letting the Russian's over-run the country. If he is actually president though and that were to happen on his watch though I don't think he'd want to be the guy who let Russia, and by extension its North Korean, Iranian and Chinese allies, waltz into Europe.

But Trump is unpredictable so I'm not sure what he would do. Depending on how the wind is blowing I could see him either completely folding on the one hand, or on the other actually taking a much harder line against Russia over Ukraine than Biden is and doing way more to help it win ("gloves are off" kind of scenario). Or anything between. Its hard to tell, which is kind of scary.

rainydayToday 12:28 pm JST

I'm not sure about that nor do I think Trump himself is. There are some parallels with Afghanistan - in the 2016 campaign he kept saying that the US should get out and that he had a secret plan to succesfully end the war. That all proved to be BS when he actually became president and more or less stuck with the status quo, probably because he wanted to avoid looking bad/weak if he withdrew and the Afghan government quickly collapsed (which in fact it ultimately did).

Trump cannot win another term as president so he is free to surrender as much as wants.

*if he wins this year.

Trump cannot win another term as president so he is free to surrender as much as wants.

I think its incorrect to assume that political leaders only make decisions based on electoral concerns. I doubt that the fact that Trump (if he were elected) would not be running again in 2028 would affect his decision making on an issue like this much (I also doubt it would be relevant to Biden were he to win). Its not like presidents in their second term just suddenly give up caring about the consequences of their actions because they don't have any re-election campaign to worry about.

He is speaking in reverse.

The fact is that even if Biden returns to power, the Biden administration will ask Ukraine to go for a settlement. It should be quite clear to the State Department and the Department of Defense that there is no chance Ukraine will regain the territories it lost.

But they are not in a position to admit it because it will make the Biden administration look weak and vindicate the position of the other side.

Some of the 'expert' commentators on here were claiming the Ukraine will regain Crimea this summer, and this Russia-Ukraine conflict is existential for the West. This was hyperbole of the highest order.

Americans and Ukrainians can thank Biden for spending 75 billion USD on Ukraine (for different reasons), and Kyiv is still standing whereas Crimea is still under Russian control. Both sides have a chance to walk away with whatever they have, but the Biden administration will not allow that to happen because it's election year.

Once the election is out of the way and in the slim chance that Biden returns to power, they will start singing a different tune and push Zelensky towards negotiating with Russia.

The rest of the world in the meantime has already moved on to more pressing problems.

TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  12:18 pm JST

nikToday 08:13 am JST

The more shells and weapons they give to Ukraine, the brighter Ukraine burns.

No, the US and NATO shells make the Russian burn.

If you don't believe me, come see for yourself.

You have the easy ticket to the frontline available to you.

This problem cannot be solved by war, how can one fail to understand this.

Why does only Russia get to take things by war? Are the defeats in 1917/18 and Afghanistan not enough to make you realize you aren't invincible?

Ukraine will never become a NATO member.

They already have all of the hardware a NATO member would have and then some.

Give all the money in the world and still Ukraine will not be a member of NATO; even children understand this.)))

Weaponry is more important than a piece of paper and the weapons aren't going anywhere no how much you and Putin stomp the ground.

You have outdated information about what is happening. We are better off than you. You are very far away. And you have no information at all. Throw some firewood into the dying Ukraine, make your contribution.

EvilBuddhaToday 03:34 pm JST

The fact is that even if Biden returns to power, the Biden administration will ask Ukraine to go for a settlement. It should be quite clear to the State Department and the Department of Defense that there is no chance Ukraine will regain the territories it lost.

Unconditional ceasefires hardly require any negotiation. Nothing needs to be pressed unless you are pushing for surrendering America like Trump.

Both sides have a chance to walk away with whatever they have, but the Biden administration will not allow that to happen because it's election year.

Ukraine decides its future. If you weren't swallowing the Russian line you would understand this.

Once the election is out of the way and in the slim chance that Biden returns to power, they will start singing a different tune and push Zelensky towards negotiating with Russia.

Once again, nothing to negotiate and no levers that should be pushed.

The rest of the world in the meantime has already moved on to more pressing problems.

Yes, we do know that the Rupee is all that matters.

How on earth this guy can be alliwed to return to power?!?!

Allowed

Unconditional ceasefires hardly require any negotiation.

That's shifting of goalposts.

A few months ago most of the Ukraine supporting liberals were so confident that the war will be over with Russians running back with their tails between their legs. Turned out it was just bluster to keep the taps open.

Ukraine decides its future.

Ukraine’s donors decide its future. It should be obvious to anyone.

nothing to negotiate and no levers that should be pushed.

Yeah because the liberals will lose face if they admit otherwise. A war that could have ended a year ago will get dragged further because of the obstinacy of the liberals, and their obstinate-in-chief.

we do know that the Rupee is all that matters.

Or the dollars. That's what keeps the proxy war going I suppose.