S Korea's surviving 'comfort women' spend final years seeking atonement from Japan

Shame to inhumanity, justice to all comfort women who are not comfort at all.

Bitterness is something that will kill your soul and keep you from living a full happy life.

When your entire nation adopts it as national policy, thats quite sad.

No doubt horrific things were done during the war, but Japan has apologised and compensated, and that was accepted.

The sad thing is that no apology is actually going to be accepted, and this is all politicized and used to promote nationalism and bad ties with Japan. Any nation on earth can dig up the past and find reasons to hate their neighbor.

thepersoniamnow, you are absolute right not. Japanese under Abe hate neighbours, what the past can justify the hatred ?

If Abe govt can't do the right things to take care of the victims, Japanese people should do it, by sympathy and by donation. Future generations will come together, and will overcome the inhuman past.

Day after day these claims are coming, fed by SK government. There is no issueon Comfort Women. It has been settled financially, there are no more apologies. There must be big internal unrest in South Korea, and these claims are a smokescreen. A coup is likely coming.

Japan paid money to the South Korean government in accordance with the 2015 Comfort Women Agreement, which they are still holding. Why haven't they given the money to the surviving comfort women as it was intended? Why isn't this Lee Yong-Soo demanding that money from the South Korean government? Is she aware that additionally in accordance with the 2015 Agreement Japan issued a Prime Ministerial Apology?

Part of the very big problem is that Japanese politicians refute and deny that women were coerced and abused!

Somehow the past cannot be faced even though Japan was an occupying power in Korea with military forces in the country!

Even now statutes commemorating these victims in foreign countries invoke Japanese governmental complaints time after time.

Why is that?

Well,the Japanese need to be reminded time after time what their history is,- they don’t know it!

kurisupisu, I have no problems with the statutes. In fact, UN has no problems with that either. I am also against Abe govt to spend money on offences, that will remind neighbours the past. Do less is more better than harm.

BeerDeliveryGuy, what are Beijing and Pyongyang roles with comfort women, other than being victims ?

There's a mistake in the headline. It should read "South Korea's surviving comfort women spend final years seeking more cash than they already got from Japan."

Japan must have a big heart, there is nothing wrong for neighbours to remember the past. It is a true history. There is also nothing wrong to make apology any time when needed. Wrong is wrong, as simple as that.

kurisupisuToday  07:58 am JST

Well,the Japanese need to be reminded time after time what their history is,- they don’t know it!

Looks to me like they are hardly the only ones. There is far more "truth" behind the Comfort Women issue than the singular Korean narrative you parrot. Even some courageous South Korean scholars have stepped forward to present them despite persecution in South Korea.

https://taskandpurpose.com/much-may-think-know-korean-comfort-women-wrong/

Keep seeking ...within your own government.

"I thought I was going to die," Lee said of the abuse and torture she endured in a brothel at an airfield in Taiwan used by Japanese kamikaze pilots in the final years of World War Two.

Let me get this straight. You were, at that time, a denizen within the Japanese Empire. Things have gotten to the point that the males of the majority ethnicity are being told to give up their very lives. You are being asked to provide sex services. You are the one being shafted (suffering an unfair onerous burden)...

Really.

Let me get this straight. You were, at that time, a denizen within the Japanese Empire. Things have gotten to the point that the males of the majority ethnicity are being told to give up their very lives. You are being asked to provide sex services. You are the one being shafted (suffering an unfair onerous burden)...

Really.

Um, yeah. Duh. Facepalm.

I can't believe you think that a woman should just suck it up about being raped, because the people raping her are being killed. That's seriously messed up.

When you are raped you never forget for the rest of your life.

@OssanAmerica

We can revise history- nothing wrong with that.

And sure, there were Koreans complicit in the Japanese takeover of Korea too.

However, allow me to return to my original point which is the Japanese do not adequately know their own history!

Which is why, in recent times that young Japanese on visiting Korea, would commend a Korean elder on their Japanese fluency, not knowing that Japanese was a school subject introduced under colonial rule!

And. before those times we can see that Japan has always been historically aggressive towards Korea as a trip to the War Museum in Seoul will illuminate......

kurisupisuToday  09:51 am JST

@OssanAmerica

We can revise history- nothing wrong with that.

And sure, there were Koreans complicit in the Japanese takeover of Korea too.

However, allow me to return to my original point which is the Japanese do not adequately know their own history!

Japanese know their history. That's exactly why efforts to revise Article 9 are facing such strong opposition. It is today's South Koreans who do not know their history, as it has been rewritten to depict South Korea as a victim of Imperial Japan when in reality it was a collaborator.

https://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=469

Which is why, in recent times that young Japanese on visiting Korea, would commend a Korean elder on their Japanese fluency, not knowing that Japanese was a school subject introduced under colonial rule!

The Japanese language was introduced as a school subject under colonial rule because it was the Japanese who built the schools. Along with the roads, railways, hospitals, etc. They also changed the Korean practice of prohibiting girls from attending school. They gave all Koreans Japanese citizenship, something that Western Colonial powers did not do to their Asian and African colonial subjects.

"After the Japanese annexation, which occurred in 1910, Japanese was made the official language of Korea. However, the Korean alphabet was still taught in Korean-established schools built after the annexation and Korean was written in a mixed Hanja-Hangul script, where most lexical roots were written in Hanja and grammatical forms in the Korean alphabet."

Japan has already attoned for the comfort woman dispute. Compensation was paid, apology given and a deal was sign as Final and Irreversible.

I recommend you take it up with your own government who refuse to distribute the compensation paid in 65 and then again in 2016.

It is astonishing to see absolutely no compassion from so many towards forcefully, repeatedly raped women. These women can never just "move on". They most certainly can never forget. The fact is it happened and statues will be erected to remember the tragedy. Much as the US has made the wreck of the USS Arizona a memorial for that tragedy. I do not understand how the statues can upset the descendants of those who committed these acts, but no word of protest against the USS Arizona. The fact is these things happened and nothing will wipe the memory from history. Japan saying that statues, or talking of "comfort women" or seeking a heart felt apology rather than the "we regret" will damage relations, that's trying to put the blame on the victims. Osaka cut sister city ties with San Francisco because they erected a statue of a comfort women. To me that is a reaction of people who deny it happened or who insist it is never spoken of to hide it away.

It is the way Japanese react when the subject is broached that cause people to see the insincerity of any apology given. History cant be changed and there are issues that will not be forgotten no matter what the descendants of horrible acts may prefer. Check the negative votes on this comment to confirm what I have written.

It’s a damned shame that this comfort women issue has now been relegated to bickering over money and that that should be reason enough to finally put up and shut up and besides, it didn’t happen anyway. It’s a disgrace to all the women that had to endure this. The “truth” about comfort women? One can point to some article on a website trying to make their point of view come across. However, why is this in stark contrast to what the people who were actually there, victims and perpetrators alike, had been stating when the war ended? Japanese soldiers describing the plunder, rape and murder they said they committed? In the 60’s and 70’s they were belittled as lying imbeciles, by people who at best were still pooping in diapers when the war raged. I agree on one thing though, there weren’t hundreds of thousands of (Korean or not) comfort women. Rather, there were hundreds of thousands of sex slaves.

It seems to me that some people here need to “service” a long line of sweaty, stinking men in order to get a grasp of what these girls and women had to endure. And the other physical abuse, but I’ll leave out the murdering bit.

They should be seeking atonement from their own government who has received several compensation packages from Japan and used them for infrastructure instead of passing it on to the victims.

2015, apology and compensation paid. Go get your money from your own government.

Enough!!

The fact is these things happened and nothing will wipe the memory from history. Japan saying that statues, or talking of "comfort women" or seeking a heart felt apology rather than the "we regret" will damage relations, that's trying to put the blame on the victims.

Can it be proved in court that these Comfort women and girls did not volunteer willingly for this job? No. Exactly the same for the wartime laborers. Most volunteered, and were paid handsomely. This happened 80 years ago. It is no longer an issue, it has been finalized. Case closed.

Enough!!

Brilliantly said!

She will never accept any apologies made by Japan. Not her, nor the rest of the nation. If they did, they wouldn't have anything else to complain about and/or hate.

Hope people understand the "comfort women" issue with their own heads by not swallowing the master narrative but searching for the primary materials by themselves.

The accusation on the issue is the baseless exaggerated one.

Japan has already acknowledged the existence of "comfort women" as legal wage workers. Japan acknowledged there were rare atrocity by lawless soldiers or lower units and apologized/compensated for those (1946 to 2001).

However, Koreans and some countries people assert there was large scale systematic atrocity by the national policy of Japan. But they never disclosed objective/verifiable evidence of their assertion. 

(A). If 30K to 200K Koreans were forced into prostitution and those except the survivors didn't return ( to think about the population ratio, 200K means more than 2 millions for the U.S. ), some concrete records would have existed. ( "testimony of victims' families/relatives about abductions with data and location identified", "documents or articles on newspapers about the parents who searched for their disappeared daughters after the war", "record of the names of disappeared/killed victims", etc. ) 

(B). If there had been so big scale atrocity, there would exist some records about the concrete incidents with date and location identified. ( like, "The Sand Creek massacre" at November 29, 1864, "Phong Nhi and Phong Nhat massacre" at February 12, 1968. ) 

(C). About "comfort women", they assert there were abduction/abuse/rape/massacre systematically done by the Japanese military,

then,

Did anyone disclose one name of "comfort women" killed by Japanese soldiers ? .... Never.

Did anyone disclose one name of the parents who searched for their disappeared daughters after the war ? .... Never.

Did anyone disclose one example of the concrete incident of the atrocity by the national policy with date and location identified ? .... Never.

They accuse the issue was the large scale systematic atrocity. But the above (A).,(B). and (C) lead the conclusion that their accusation is the exaggerated false one.

It is astonishing to see absolutely no compassion from so many towards forcefully, repeatedly raped women.

The more you read and know actual testimonies of so-called officially-registered comfort women, you lose compassion. that said, it does not mean losing entire compassion toward real victims (of Korean brokers, Korean house owners, who actually treated women as slaves) who have kept complete silence.

As far as Japan is concerned, the case closed completely. Now it is S.K government and the people's turn to do something first on these Liars and Chong Dae Hyup

Geezus... This again? 25+ years of holding a vendetta... That's a life wasted IMHO. I get it, they got raped, and that scars a person for life. I feel sorry for them, and agree, that they should be supported by their government to recover as much as possible emotionally and psychologically. Unfortunately, dead men can't make apologies. Taking it out on their descendants is both unfair and won't undo what has been done. Move on. You've only got a little time left to live your lives!

I feel very sorry for them, but i think they should stop torturing themselves and just accept that they are not going to get the atonement they are looking for from Japan. Imagine constantly looking and waiting for an atonement from Hitler, or a criminal who is in jail. It's just pointless, you are not going to get it, he is not going to apologize to you or feel remorse for what he did, so the worst thing you can do is keep hoping you will get an atonement. The best thing you could do in such case would be to stop expecting an apology, and sort of accept the situation and try to live in peace with yourself. If they can't stop thinking about it, maybe they could try spreading the word, but constantly expecting and hoping for an apology and remorse from your wrongdoer is self-torturing and pointless.

Can it be proved in court that these Comfort women and girls did not volunteer willingly for this job? No. Exactly the same for the wartime laborers. Most volunteered, and were paid handsomely. This happened 80 years ago. It is no longer an issue, it has been finalized. Case closed.

Yes you must be correct, who wouldn't want to volunteer to be beaten and raped daily by horrible strange men for years. Sounds like a job YOU would volunteer for doesn't it. Get real, nobody volunteers for that. Where is your proof that they volunteered and were not coerced at gunpoint? I would like to see your proof.

As far as Japan is concerned, the case closed completely. Now it is S.K government and the people's turn to do something first on these Liars and Chong Dae Hyup

You may consider it "closed", but it will be spoken of and memorials erected and Japanese will have no say in the matter. Disgusting to try to shift blame.

This will live on in history and be spoken of when WWII is discussed. I suggest you get used to it. It is not going to go away. Japan must learn contrition and to really accept that they were the bad guys, not the good guys in WWII. Time will not alter that fact.

For those who downvoted my previous post, you may not like what I said but it's absolutely true. Read the article, it says they want another formal apology and more compensation, that means money.

 Get real, nobody volunteers for that. Where is your proof that they volunteered and were not coerced at gunpoint? I would like to see your proof.

Remember South Korea is a country prostitutes demonstrated on the street to protect their rights to work as prostitutes? Think about comfort women during/after Korean War. Are you of opinion that these women under Japanese ruling era were all innocent victims BUT the number of willing prostitutes suddenly and exponentially exploded once WW2 ended till Korean war started in 4~5 years? Women have been treated the same before and after WW2 by their fellow countrymen throughout it’s history.

Isn’t this the issue of women’s universal human rights as Chong Dae Hyup hypocritically advocates? Why keep blaming by singling out Japan after finally and irreversibly agreed officially to let it go?

 

You may consider it "closed", but it will be spoken of and memorials erected and Japanese will have no say in the matter. Disgusting to try to shift blame.

Japanese will have or should have every say against lies, fabrications in this matter. Disgusting to try to single out Japan and the people as if your fellow countrymen are pure and innocent in this matter.

For those who are interested, this seems Lee Yong Soo's most recent version among her variations.

Funny she paused a moment when saying the year she returned so as not to make another mistake.

The only thing Japan missed before agreement was to face and ask these women to completely refute allegations. Come on. she cannot change her stories this often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GBaAtCewk

Funny she paused a moment when saying the year she returned so as not to make another mistake.

Your smoking gun is an ancient woman who paused a moment to remember exactly what year something happened, decades ago.

Not so good with The Logics, are you.

"In an interview with Professor Chunghee Sarah Soh of San Francisco State University, a former Korean comfort woman Kim Sun-ok said that she was sold by her parents four times.

Yet she testified before UN Special Rapporteur Radhika Coomaraswamy that she was abducted by the Japanese military."

http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-comfort-women-by-chunghee-sarah-soh.html

Japanese will have or should have every say against lies, fabrications in this matter. Disgusting to try to single out Japan and the people as if your fellow countrymen are pure and innocent in this matter.

Denial will not make it go away. History has recorded it. Learn to live with the stigma.

 Your smoking gun is an ancient woman who paused a moment to remember exactly what year something happened, decades ago.

Not so good with The Logics, are you.

 

She is the most annoying ad-tower. Her initial testimony was in her early 60’s. If it is such hardship, you wouldn’t forget how it happened. You wouldn’t forget what you initially testified either. If you still forget, at least you wouldn’t create different memories in your brain, just left with blank space by strong Traumatic symptoms.

 

Needless to say, she is not the only one like that. These people are actually the disgrace keeping possible real victims from being healed. How dare they could bash women for accepting apology and a bit of compensation trying to forget all and rest..

If it is such hardship, you wouldn’t forget how it happened. You wouldn’t forget what you initially testified either. If you still forget, at least you wouldn’t create different memories in your brain, just left with blank space by strong Traumatic symptoms.

That’s a lot of assumptions upon which you’ve based your conclusion. I hope you don’t expect the rest of us to just accept these assumptions as fact based purely upon your claims that they are so. You need to show something to support them, otherwise your conclusion is based upon flawed assumptions, making it a baseless conclusion.

The contradicting testimonies are what lead Professor Ahn Byeong-Jik of Seoul University, after questioning some 50 former comfort women in tje early 1990s to conclude that their testimony was not credible.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/171fHdHD-xFU1g7-XAuuYVhR4wMwZ9VBwKVXPCu78riE/edit

Professor Sarah Soh went further in uncovering the role of Chong Dae Hyup behind the Comfort Women testimonies.

"A former Korean comfort woman Sim Mi-ja who refused to be on Chong Dae Hyup's payroll said, "The Korean women, who testified before UN Special Rapporteur, lied on behalf of Chong Dae Hyup. They are swindlers"

"In an interview with Professor Park Yuha of Sejong University in South Korea, a former Korean comfort woman Bae Chun-hee said she hated her father who sold her. She said that men who recruited Korean women and operated comfort stations were all Korean, and that Korean women who testified before UN Special Rapporteur lied on behalf of Chong Dae Hyup. "

http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-comfort-women-by-chunghee-sarah-soh.html

On the one hand, there is a general resistance among the Japanese populace to admit the crimes committed by Imperial Japanese forces, and there is a tendency to look only at the bravery and glory of those days.

On the other hand, there is a deep seated fear among the Japanese people that the crimes of Imperial Japan could be repeated, hence the aversion to creating a Japanese military force capable of offensive actions.

As an outsider I have no answer, only compassion for all involved.

To those who say the sex slaves who Japanese refer to as 'comfort women' were paid workers I challenge you.

Japanese are strict followers of regulations so there must have been written job descriptions, job applications, salary receipts, taxes, details of sick leave, holidays, etc. documented for each girl. Produce those documents as evidence they were paid workers. I also challenge you to interview every surviving sex slave of each nationality you 'hired' and obtain their permission to use the term 'comfort woman' to describe their work for the Japanese.

Denial will not make it go away. History has recorded it. Learn to live with the stigma.

Conventional phrase does not hide inconvenient truths

Denial will not make it go away. History has recorded it. Learn to live with the stigma.

Conventional phrase does not hide inconvenient truths.Glad to see your embracing the truth.

Glad to see you finally accepting the truth. If all were like you then these issues could be resolved and put behind everyone.

I hope you don't think that everything you posted after the above quote did that.

No I don't. I just gave a funny example how she tends to portray her experience.

Tell me. Did it look that Trump approached to her when she waived her hand(s) and quickly hugged her?

Ok, then are you going to support your assertions?

Yes I do. There is always only one truth, so is the story how she ended up in the train taking her to Taiwan.

If you're just killing time, I appreciate if you could show me counter-proof that she is not lying

If you're just killing time, I appreciate if you could show me counter-proof that she is not lying

I haven’t made any such claim. I’ve only asked you to show backing for the assertions you made.

Your assertions:

If it is such hardship, you wouldn’t forget how it happened. You wouldn’t forget what you initially testified either. If you still forget, at least you wouldn’t create different memories in your brain, just left with blank space by strong Traumatic symptoms.

I’m open to the idea that you are correct with the above assumptions, which would in turn support your conclusion. So what do you have to support the above assertions?

Glad to see you finally accepting the truth. If all were like you then these issues could be resolved and put behind everyone.

I am sorry. What the heck are you talking about? I appreciate if you could describe the truth I finally accepted.

I’m open to the idea that you are correct with the above assumptions, which would in turn support your conclusion. So what do you have to support the above assertions?

Actual experience and from those who went through the same kind. plus professional opinions received and read those days. There is a chance you could unintentionally and completely change your memories to escape yourself from traumatic experience but that couldn't happen as often as she does. In most cases, she would lose completely the hardest part from her memories.

In case one is mentally ill so heavily, she wouldn't be able to join the rally and shout about what's going on about THAAD.　which means the one becomes completely socially-disable person.

Besides, if she is as sick as described above, her testimonies should not be counted upon in the 1st place, should it. Now I must turn PC off, and I am not here in this board to satisfy your own intellectual curiosity, just show me counter-proof so that I can reply within tomorrow.

You can google search for criticism made by other group ( Mukuge-no-Kai side)'s comfort women toward those comfort womens(Chong Dae Hyup side)’s lying  or for  professional observation by Ahn Byeong-Jik, Sarah Soh, Park Yuha, etc all you want. Contradictions of her testimonies have been pointed out everywhere. No point for me to copy/paste those again.

My proposition

Because there is only one truth, transition of her testimonies occurs as either she is lying or her memory often changes.

My assertion

If it is such hardship, you wouldn’t forget how it happened. You wouldn’t forget what you initially testified either. If you still forget, at least you wouldn’t create different memories in your brain, just left with blank space by strong Traumatic symptoms. Like I said She started her testimony when she was 64yrs old.

Backed up by

Actual experience and from those who went through the same kind. plus professional opinions received and read those days. There is a chance you could unintentionally and completely change your memories to escape yourself from traumatic experience but that couldn't happen as often as she does. In most cases, she would lose completely the hardest part from her memories.

Thus my conclusion

She is Lying.

For your information…

The number of officially registered comfort women was 238 (initially, adding 2 new registration, now 240 I think) of which about 220 testified they were either sold by parents or deceived by brokers with little exception like Lee Yong Soo who just followed a man and her friend. 20 testified they were forcibly captured by Japanese soldiers, of which 2 flipped their testimonies over when they sued Japanese government in 90's, of which other 2 testified they were taken by IJA to Busan in Korea and Toyama in Japan that were not battlefield at all. Remaining 16 initially testified that they were sold or deceived but all flipped testimonies over to forcibly captured by IJA once they got on payroll of Chong Dae Hyup in early 2000's

Lee Yong Soo is one of the remaining 16.

Both comfort station at Sinjhú Taiwan (where she claimed she resided in )and IJ’s Navy air force at Sinjhú were under bombing 1943 Nov ( as she now testifying in the video surprisingly.... LOL ) and dissolved 1944 Jan . So Where has she been? What has she been doing all those 3 years?

As far as she is concerned, must-ask questions are endless.

You can google search for criticism made by other group ( Mukuge-no-Kai side)'s comfort women toward those comfort womens(Chong Dae Hyup side)’s lying or for professional observation by Ahn Byeong-Jik, Sarah Soh, Park Yuha, etc all you want. Contradictions of her testimonies have been pointed out everywhere. No point for me to copy/paste those again.

I understand the arguments you are making, but they all require that the assumptions you made about memory be true. You are stating these things as if they are outside the normal human ability to recall past events, and therefore she must be saying something that didn’t actually happen. Since the key point here is whether or not her memories can be counted upon, we need to know if the so called gotchas are outside the realm of normality and/or indicate that what she is reporting is likely to be incorrect.

If this has not been properly looked at, then all of your conclusions are based upon unproven assumptions, meaning they are literally baseless conclusions.

They are not assumptions despite using the word “would”.

Using the word 'would' is exactly what makes it an assumption. You can't just decide it's not. By your choice of grammar, you have made an assertion that something is true, without supporting it. Therefore it's an assumption, not a supported fact.

I already backed them up except for the cases that she suffers from mythomania by nature, or is hypnotized, or brainwashed.

You haven't supported your assertions at all. You still haven't addressed this:

You are stating these things as if they are outside the normal human ability to recall past events, and therefore she must be saying something that didn’t actually happen. Since the key point here is whether or not her memories can be counted upon, we need to know if the so called gotchas are outside the realm of normality and/or indicate that what she is reporting is likely to be incorrect.

You have not shown anything that shows her comments to be outside the normal human ability to recall past events.

Oxford English Dictionary: If … would

2: (expressing the conditional mood) indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation.

ASSUMING it is the fact that it was such hardship but I still used conditionals (If-clause) (because I don’t believe her at all in the 1st place) which led me to “would” automatically to be modest and polite for posting my assertions to the public forum.   If it is not such hardship for her, well… what the heck.

 

You haven't supported your assertions at all. You still haven't addressed this:

You have not shown anything that shows her comments to be outside the normal human ability to recall past events.

 

So let me copy/paste one last time

 

My assertions

If it is such hardship, you wouldn’t forget how it happened. You wouldn’t forget what you initially testified either. If you still forget, at least you wouldn’t create different memories in your brain, just left with blank space by strong Traumatic symptoms. Like I said She started her testimony when she was 64yrs old.

 

*I supported my assertion to draw my conclusion by my own experience and I already said that twice, which is *

 

Actual experience and from those who went through the same kind. plus professional opinions received and read those days. There is a chance you could unintentionally and completely change your memories to escape yourself from traumatic experience but that couldn't happen as often as she does. In most cases, she would lose completely the hardest part from her memories.

 

Do I have to explain the above in detail to show you and convince you that her comments to be outside the normal ….? No. I don’t have to and I don’t want to in public. Why? Because I don’t expect you or any other to accept my assertions.

 

Is personal & undisclosed experience enough to make assertions? Yes. When you make assertion as a person it is always personal, which is very much so when the person  doesn’t  expect others  to accept it.

Isn't it almost like saying She is a liar because I just think so. Yes and No. It's because I am confident

"Some comfort women earned enough for their services (at rates set and enforced by the Japanese military authorities) to pay off the advance money given to their parents. Saving money was encouraged by the Japanese military, and accumulating large sums was hardly impracticable.

Now-deceased comfort woman Mun Ok-chu saved up a staggering 26,000 yen in three years (at a time when a sergeant in the Japanese army made between 23 and 30 yen per month). Mun made more money in 1943 – a lot more – than the Japanese lieutenant-general commanding all Imperial land forces in Burma."

China is, therefore, co-opting comfort women into the grand project of the CCP to re-assert its authority and to retake East Asia and beyond. What appears to be an issue between South Korea and Japan over history is actually a live-fire battle to draw East Asian states into satellite positions around the “Middle Kingdom” once again.

http://www.atimes.com/article/beijing-weaponizes-comfort-women-propaganda-tool/

I supported my assertion to draw my conclusion by my own experience and I already said that twice, which is

Your experience, unfortunately, is not a valid scientific study. Therefore you've based your conclusions on faulty assumptions, therefore your conclusions are baseless conclusions.

If you want to believe those things yourself, go ahead.

But you are trying to spread those beliefs (and you have shown that they are beliefs, and not based in fact) to the rest of us.

So you use a lot of 'if she X then she would Y', but actually there is nothing scientific behind that claim. So really we don't know if she was X she would Y. We just know you have a religious-like faith behind that, rather than evidenced based belief.

Do I have to explain the above in detail to show you and convince you that her comments to be outside the normal ….? No.

You don't have to, but in turn, all of your assertions fall apart and are empty as a result.

I don’t have to and I don’t want to in public. Why? Because I don’t expect you or any other to accept my assertions.

That would make more sense if you hadn't tried to post your claims in public as fact, when it's very clear they are not fact, but faith.

Your experience, unfortunately, is not a valid scientific study. Therefore you've based your conclusions on faulty assumptions, therefore your conclusions are baseless conclusions.

 

You are not in the position to assert my experience including professional (doctor)’s opinion is valid or not, scientific or not without my explaining it in detail. At best you can assume so.

 

So you use a lot of 'if she X then she would Y', but actually there is nothing scientific behind that claim. So really we don't know if she was X she would Y. We just know you have a religious-like faith behind that, rather than evidenced based belief.

 

Religious-like faith is not appropriate term. Conviction is.

 The part I asserted based on evidenced( to me) but undisclosed (to you)experience is not really my smokinggun as you called out as such. Not to mention, all other facts help me to come to conclusion, like, Other group’s comfort women testified that Chong Dae Hyup school (including her) were lying, Chong Dae Hyup school all changed testimonies to the ones including IJA’s slave-hunting all at once at in early 2000’s. We saw how she tends to portray her experience when asked Pr. Trump for a hug. Sinjhú Taiwan was bombed and dissolved almost at the same time as she claimed she landed…etc.

 

That would make more sense if you hadn't tried to post your claims in public as fact, when it's very clear they are not fact, but faith.

 

Again faith meaning religious-like one is not appropriate term to be used.

 

I have every right to post my opinion, my conclusion, faith meaning conviction,  as long as mods do not delete me.

 

Yes she is lying.

We have statements from some surviving CWs that those who testified were coached by Chong Dae Hyup and were lying. We have several SK scholars who do not consider these testimonies to be credible. We have documented evidence from the time that the SK narrative is not true. 200,000 women were not kidnapped by Japanese troops and they were employed and under the military payroll, therefore they were not "sex slaves". The only incident where that applies is one in Indonesia which was investigated and tried, and did not involve Koreans. The Comfort Women system most certainly existed, but the common narrative is a hoax.