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Abe, Li agree on need to open new era for Japan, China

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Good. I hope the ties gain momentum in the correct track.

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In Wednesday's meeting with Li, Abe was quoted as saying, "No true improvement in Japan-China ties can be achieved without stability in the East China Sea."

Until PRC stops sailing around the Senkaku Islands for political purposes , ceases illegally creating Islands in the South China Sea, preventing freedom of navigation in International waters, as well as stops locking away up to two million innocent Muslim men in "re-education" camps, there can never be a true "new era" in good relations with Japan or any democratic nation.

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Free Tibet! Free Xinjiang! Free Inner Mongolia! Free Manchuria! Don't approach Senkaku Islands! Leave Paracel Islands! Leave Spratly Islands! Stay inside the Great Wall of China!!

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re: article: Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang agreed Wednesday on the need to create a new era for the two countries as they step up preparations for Chinese President Xi Jinping's state visit to Japan next spring.

Seems Japan is turning more and more towards China and less and less away from the US. It has taken all it can from the cash cow that the nipple is running dry, Now time to get on a new nipple to suck on. Abe is a sellout and cares less for Japan and its people. He only cares about his own coffers as his own administration has now openly proven that. Soon free Japan will be chanted due to Abe the sellout.

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So they agreed on address the history issues? This is the elephant in the room that keeps derailing the relationship.

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The ties between the two countries should not be back on a “normal track” until China stops persecuting Tibetans and Uyghurs.

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Agree, relationships are not just economic. PM Trudeau (Canada) has discussed with Trump about not signing a trade deal with China until China shows their intension of following a rules based world order.

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first steps get rid of all the old f...ts who've run Japan thus far clean house new blood preferably multi-lingual mixed ethnics who've lived studied abroad the geezers who only lived in a fishbowl cannot understand int'l matters

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Macv,

Excellent comments.

Japan’s silver-spooned brigade need ousting.

They all think alike and have no ideas what the rank and file are going through.

Most of them think that coffee costs ¥2,500 a cup since they only dine at the New Otani or Okura.

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Wisdom and stupidity don't mix.

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Osaka_DougToday  07:23 am JST

So they agreed on address the history issues? This is the elephant in the room that keeps derailing the relationship.

Japan and China already agreed on the history issues back in 1972 with the Sino-Japanese Treaty of Friendship, which China reaffirmed again in 1978. The 2010 anti-Japan policies were in violation of that treaty.

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OssanAmerica, there is no such a thing as anti-Japan policies. If there were, you made it up. China always treats neighbours as her own, that is called Confucianism. China had forgiven Japan $1.5 trillions for the war damage, that isn't anti, that is love.

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It is great to see two important world leaders acting the part and taking positive steps towards stability. (I know the Chinese President wasn't there on Wednesday, but they had met on Monday.) They may have to pander to domestic audiences sometimes, but at least they can sit down and talk to each other respectfully and move forward. Thank you for your wise and stable leadership Mr. Abe and your stable LDP. You are a good example for Europe and North America of how to run a country as a responsible politician. Merry Christmas!

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rgcivilian1Today  07:22 am JST

Seems Japan is turning more and more towards China and less and less away from the US

I didn't know it was opposite day?

What's actually happening is Japan is - at the behest of the US - trying to smooth ties with China to attempt a more relaxed negotiating table. The US can't do it on their own, they need Japan right in there helping things along, making out like US hegemony in the region doesn't mean China can only behave one way: as a soft-pawed intimidator. Russia plays a part too, and they are influencing China's position in ways that don't appear to hurt US interests so much that they properly retaliate. We haven't seen anything in terms of how the US can send China back to the 1900's without firing a bullet.

What they are going to end up doing is - at least at a superficial international level - is steer China into wanting to be a 'friendly giant'. After that, who knows. A denuclearised North Korea with sanctions removed?

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No Akie, I don't make things up.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1081778/china-anti-japan-protest-damage-may-be-over-us100m

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/apr/17/china.japan

https://www.theguardian.com/guardianweekly/story/0,,1464954,00.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-japan-specialreport/special-report-why-chinas-film-makers-love-to-hate-japan-idUSBRE94O0CJ20130525

https://www.ft.com/content/3d69959e-ffce-11e1-a30e-00144feabdc0

China uses anti-Japan sentiment as a diplomatic and political tool. But as a one party authoritarian dictatorship, China is capable of literally turning it on and off at will, as it suits their policy at the time. At present, with little hope of resolving trade and geopolitical issues with the United States, it has undretaken a policy of improving relations with Japan. South Korea's rather silly actions have in fact made Japan more open to China's advances in this regard.

祝你圣诞快乐

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OssanAmerica, hahaha, you quote anti-China references said all. Your "Japan more open to China" killed your logic once and for all. In fact, Chinese people never stopped visiting and working together with Japanese people, even during your so called 2010. There are a lot of fake news around to promote hatred between Japan and China. Chinese know that, Chinese govt knows that.

Why would China be anti Japan ? It never makes any senses. 3000 years relationship, common culture and common ancestors are great assets for both sides. Only stupid people would throw that out. I hope you are not doing that.

Best wishes to you and your family on this special day.

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Japan reneges on its agreement with China in 1972 to shelve the question of the Senkaku Islands (at the bidding of America's Heritage Foundation) and yet it is China that is at fault?

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Hello Kitty 321Today  11:24 am JST

Japan reneges on its agreement with China in 1972 to shelve the question of the Senkaku Islands (at the bidding of America's Heritage Foundation) and yet it is China that is at fault?

Yes, China is at fault.

If China felt it had a valid claim, htey could have easily forced Japan to settle at the ICJ. But China did not even try to bring the Senkaku dispute before the ICJ. Because China is not a signatory to the list of nations willing to recognize and accept ICJ jurisdiction and rulings. Japan is.

China used the argument that Japan "nationalized" the Senkakus as an excuse to incite anti-JP fervor. "Nationalized" means the ownership went from private Japanese nationals to the Japanese government. There were 2 islands that were purchased by the government. The problem with getting bent out of shape over "nationalization" is that of the 5 islands that constutite the Senkakus, one was already owned by the J-govt. In fact at one time the US military used it as a live fore bombing range. So if the J-govt already owned one island, what difference did it make if they now owned another two? Furthermore, as these two island were sold to the J-govt by Japanese citizens, they were already Japanese islands anyway. And why did China not bid to buy them? The J-govt bought the two islands to prevent the right wing mayor of Tokyo from buying them, with the argument that they were attempting to avoid conflict with China, but China turned that around into an excuse to destroy Sino-Japanese relations.
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Well said OssanAmerica.

The fact is China would have been angrier at Japan if Tokyo had purchased and developed the two islands, than the Japanese government buying them and not developing them. That is called "damned if you do and damned if you don't". Or a "no win situation". Japan took the best option and should have had China's support and praise, not its condemnation.

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A convenience relationship! A convenience trading partnership! And of course the agreement in 1972(Between Tanaka & Chou) was a convenience one!

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It is time, that Japan understands that we are all together.

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To China we go but not to India?

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Start ny returning the Diaoyu Dai islands or Senkakus, back to China, its original owner.

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China hates Japan while Japan is wary about China but hey money talks. There are consequences. It's just a matter of time.

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HercolobusDec. 26  10:09 pm JST

Start ny returning the Diaoyu Dai islands or Senkakus, back to China, its original owner.

China was never the owner of the Senkaku Islands. It was Taiwan which first disputed Japan's ownership soleley for fishing rights. China usurped Taiwan's claim first on the basis of potential natural resources then later for strategic purposes. The only evidence of any human habitation on these islands are the remains of a Japanese bonito factory.

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Abe, Li agree on need to open new era for Japan, China

Hot air. What is that even supposed to mean? As long as the Beijing regime continues its imperalist policies, China is on a collision course with its neighbours.

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Akie:

OssanAmerica, there is no such a thing as anti-Japan policies. If there were, you made it up. China always treats neighbours as her own,

Err... if by "treating as her own" you mean "treating as property of mainland China", I would agree. However, the neighbours do not necessarily agree to being property of imperialist China with its leader-for-life Winnie Puh.

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