Japan, Australia to tie up on hydrogen supply for zero emissions Asia

Go BLUE hydrogen. Not! Makes me wonder why Japan has to ship it, instead of developing its own green hydrogen industry..

Green and yellow hydrogen are the best type since its produced from renewables.

Australia has almost unlimited solar energy and is developing the largest solar farm in the world 10 gigawatt , yes massive, there will be very few places in the world that will be able to generate that amount of solar energy so it makes sense Australia could use all that solar energy to produce green hydrogen

Japan and Australia are good mate , good trading partner, and Japan are going give Australia a few subs on a great lend lease deal until the yank subs are delivered.

Asia is the continent with the by far highest population, and they talk and phantasize about zero emissions? Look, there won’t be any future at all with such crazy people being at the top and forcing their manifestos and guidelines which are far from any logic and reality.

Good for Australia, forward thinking leadership.

Zero emission alright but the power plants are powered by coal. Thus, you need more coals to power these cars. And the mining and manufacturing of the batteries produce a lot of emissions. Zero emissions you say?

No Temyong the power to produce the hydrogen will come from solar, wind or hydrogen and be zero carbon.

Hydrogen is not green.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Japan-and-South-Korea-must-recognize-blue-hydrogen-is-not-clean

Septim, the maritime industry working with Nordic nations are rapidly building an industry to produce hydrogen and ammonia fuels for ocean going ships using only renewable energy sources, solar, wind and hydro power. The plants are being scaled so they can produce enough to meet demand when the necessary energy is available. This is site dependent. This is happening today as the first hydrogen and ammonia powered ships are being built now and their engines undergoing tests.

This isn't a news report, it's a press release. It's promotional only, and doesn't look at various aspects of the issue.

I think hyrogen use will be far more difficult than the companies and governments involved are either understand or are letting on. There are probably a lot of taxpayer-funded subsidies available here that companies like Kawasaki Juko are eyeing, so they won't really have to risk much of their own money if or when it fails.

Here's an interesting video about challenges related to using hydrogen as an energy source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zklo4Z1SqkE

Noran, one of the key issues for hydrogen is storage and infrastructure. Hydrogen can embrittle steel, but embrittlement-resistant steel is expensive, and other materials that can store it at low temperatures will also be expensive even if they are available in the quantities that infrastructure would require. Not to mention the energy sources required to produce them in the first place.

I'm not trying to be negative here - if they could solve these problems I'd be all for hydrogen. It just that we need to consider all the pros and cons, and not rely on marketing materials for information about how wonderful a world powered by hydrogen would be. It's just not that simple.

Very misleading news on “green” hydrogen, The only reason why they need to Australia in the picture is because of cheap Australian electricity to produce the hydrogen, then it cost even more energy to cool it to liquidity for transport, then again more energy to store, reheat, etc, where does the cheap electricity comes from? COAL! Stop making hydrogen powered things sound like green, you put it in the car, only to have it reverse generate electricity and store it in battery to power a motor. Honestly it’s one of most stupidest tech invented ever..

I was going to add that the maritime industry and engine builder Wartsila are experimenting with mixtures of ammonia and hydrogen in part to avoid the need to cryogenically cool liquid hydrogen aboard ships.