Japan, China reaffirm push for strategic, mutually beneficial ties

Japan will kiss the devils behind for its own interest and Xi’s is not far off.

Japan, China reaffirm push for strategic, mutually beneficial ties

Until they settle the decisive issues that show they are polar opposites, there will never be strategic and mutually beneficial ties. The Senkaku's needs to be settled and Taiwan's independence must be acknowledged for there to be any true progress in relations.

As long as they dance around the problems without ever showing progress on them, relations will always remain strained and easily sent backwards. Do not ignore the difficult problems, tackle them for true progress to be made.

Japan will kiss the devils behind for its own interest and Xi’s is not far off.

It is called diplomacy and they will do the same with trump up to a certain point.

robert maes

Japan will kiss the devils behind for its own interest and Xi’s is not far off.

In your view, and for sure the US administration, perhaps is better to purchase few billions dollars worth of weapons Made in America, driving the Wall Street records higher, and wage another war in Asia, after Ukraine and Middle East, just for the sake of what Washington wants or is used to do all over the world.

Japan and China need to start dialogue and diplomacy, and economics benefits will follow for both nations.

We do not need the warmongering attitude of the White House. With the money spent for the US military Japan could be a more peaceful and rich society

P14, If I may. Senkaku's is a PRC/ JPN issue, Taiwan got nought to do with that. A tricky one for jpn! help me what was the chalk lines on the playground hoppy skippy game, right foot right sq(miss middle sq) lft foot lft sq etc..not allowed to touch middle sq! mmh. easy for kiddywinks! megadiff for a politician. when other nation's citizens are shouting polar differences? I feel solace for the guys, JPn issues are for the JPN peoples.

FosToday 05:51 pm JST

robert maes

Japan will kiss the devils behind for its own interest and Xi’s is not far off.

In your view, and for sure the US administration, perhaps is better to purchase few billions dollars worth of weapons Made in America, driving the Wall Street records higher, and wage another war in Asia, after Ukraine and Middle East, just for the sake of what Washington wants or is used to do all over the world.

Still Putin's War. Still Hamas's War.

We do not need the warmongering attitude of the White House. With the money spent for the US military Japan could be a more peaceful and rich society

Not if they are attacked and lose territory they won't. Also sympathy budget not even 0.05% of gdp.

P14, if I may digit 14 maybe not the most lucky when commenting on PRC/JPN issues, apologies S.E asian trivia? based upon lingo knowledge

Top Chinese diplomat Wang Yi told Japanese Foreign Minister Takeshi Iwaya at the outset of the talks in Beijing that the two countries are "partners for cooperation" and that he would like to see ties advance "on the right track."

Then, China, you must stop your cyber-attacks, IP stealing, economic aggression, hostage diplomacy, threatening maneuvers around the Senkakus, trans-national repression, threats toward Japan's friends like Taiwan, and all the rest of the aggressive acts you commit.

As ever, China says one thing but does the complete opposite. The difference now, however, is that the mask has well and truly slipped: no-one believes their lies anymore.

CPowell

Still Putin's War. Still Hamas's War.

It is the big US military industrial complex war, it is your daily US dispatches which are becoming meaningless.

The anti-Beijing hysteria is clearly being led by the United States which is not concerned that China will attack other countries, but is worried that its world hegemony is being challenged.

The only difference is that China belongs to Asia, whereas the United Stated of America is just selling weapons of mass destruction as explained above.

isabelle

you must stop your cyber-attacks, IP stealing, economic aggression, hostage diplomacy, threatening maneuvers around the Senkakus, trans-national repression, threats toward Japan's friends like Taiwan, and all the rest of the aggressive acts you commit.

Another US dispatch, to make sure two neighbor countries and likely trading partners do not compromise the big weapons orders from the US military industrial complex.

As a reminder that China has neither the intent nor the capability to attack Japan, and the US is a dangerous ally because of the previously mentioned history of aggressions. China did not start any war with Japan. We cannot say the opposite.

Again history facts against US military dispatches

Another US dispatch, to make sure two neighbor countries and likely trading partners do not compromise the big weapons orders from the US military industrial complex.

More garbage. Hollywood provides the US with more international income that weapons by a factor of around 10-1. Just to put things into proper perspective.

China did not start any war with Japan. We cannot say the opposite. 

Again history facts against US military dispatches

Well according to an Ossan here, the Mongolians attacked Japan using Mongolian soldiers including some who were Chinese and Koreans. The Ossan’s conclusion is that China attempted to invade Japan but were stopped by a storm.

By that logic North Korea is invading Ukraine. It was the Germans who attacked Pearl Harbor you know.

China’s about trade and culture. Through Tang trade Japan imported kanji, sushi, and drinking tea while admiring plum blossoms.

Follow the money!

Japan will kiss the devils behind for its own interest and Xi’s is not far off.

The devil??? Wow, some pretty hysterical hyperbole there, Robert.

This is exactly the kind of diplomacy these two countries should be undertaking, AND, it's extremely important that Japan does this responsibly and independently from the US and any of their demands over this key relationship in Asia.

Looking at the timbre of many of the posts here at JT, I see a lot of very pro-US skewed perspectives of China, that almost seem to prefer conflict to peace with them.

Thankfully, the diplomats have no such predilection.

TamaramaToday  07:33 pm JST

Looking at the timbre of many of the posts here at JT, I see a lot of very pro-US skewed perspectives of China, that almost seem to prefer conflict to peace with them.

The pro-US posters are simply responding to China's one sided preference for conflict.

"Xi Jinping Asks Troops To Prepare For War As Battle Drills Intensify Around Taiwan"

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/xi-jinping-asks-troops-to-prepare-for-war-as-battle-drills-intensify-around-taiwan-6826978

Peter14

Hollywood provides the US with more international income that weapons by a factor of around 10-1. Just to put things into proper perspective.

All I know, and that it is easily traceable, is that the departing US administration of Mr Biden and Mr Blinken, have approved over $14 billions, and counting, of lethal weapons to Japan, South Korea and Taiwan in the last two months. Whereas the Foreign Minister of China wants to shake hands with his Japanese counterpart to talk about commercial trade, visa for tourists, the restart of the fish industry and so on. Let's put things into perspective: Asia does not want and does not need the warmongering attitude of Washington.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

No, Asia certainly does NOT welcome China. China is belligerent, has border disputes with every neighboring country and territorial disputes hundreds of miles from the nearest Chinese territory. In addition it attempts to use overwhelming military force to alter the status quo in attempting to push others off territory that is not Chinese, and out of international waters where every nation is welcome.

Arms deals are common in a hostile world and Russia, China and the US all maintain exports of arms to nations around the globe. The US weapons are normally far superior and there for in greater demand regardless of being generally more expensive.

FosToday 07:12 pm JST

The anti-Beijing hysteria is clearly being led by the United States

Oh, no: Xi is doing a better job of turning other countries against China than the US ever could.

FosToday 07:18 pm JST

Another US dispatch, to make sure two neighbor countries and likely trading partners do not compromise the big weapons orders from the US military industrial complex.

No, just cold, hard facts to illustrate China's aggression and duplicity.

You can deny them if you want, but we have free information here in the free world, so your RT/Xinhua rantings are just meaningless noise.

China did not start any war with Japan. We cannot say the opposite.

WWII ended nearly 80 years ago, all the people who made those decisions are long dead, and Japan hasn't committed an aggressive act since.

You can continue to live in the past if you wish... or you can step into the present day, where China is committing aggressive acts right now.

FosToday 07:54 pm JST

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

What utterly ridiculous logic.

Does Asia welcome North Korea because it is in Asia? Did China welcome Imperial Japan because it was in Asia? Laughable.

P14, If I may. Senkaku's is a PRC/ JPN issue, Taiwan got nought to do with that.

In case you didn’t know, Taiwan claims the Senkaku / Diaoyutai islands for the Republic of China. So Taiwan and China both claim the islands belong to China.

Taiwan signing an agreement on fishing regulations with Japan in the relevant waters does not invalidate their claim to the islands as evidenced by the continual protests after the fishing agreement was signed. So Ossan, so don’t try to gaslight people with misinformation.

Peter14

China is belligerent

Which part of the previous statements, based on facts and not US military dispatches, you could not catch?

The US administration’s sole intent is to destabilize the Asian continent making up stories about China. You need to stick to history books, not personal opinions, especially if it not well researched. What Asia does not welcome is the warmongering unique option Washington offers, another war to please their own interests.

Isabelle

….hard facts to illustrate China's aggression and duplicity.

I’ve read that US military dispatch too, and “the need the convince the public opinion in Japan about the hostilities of China’s actions”.

I choose the free indipendent speech, reporting the hand shake between two leaders of neighboring countries with the aspirations of better trade agreements and improving relations for a the greater good of the continent.

When I read about the billions of weapons ordered from US and the continuous military rhetoric from your clients I become skeptical. History taught us that Washington interests don’t go hand in hand with world peace

SMART MOVES.

If You Can't beat them might as well join them!

FosToday 07:12 pm JST

The anti-Beijing hysteria is clearly being led by the United States

Hysteria continues over weather balloons, cranes, spying refrigerators, garlic, tomatoes and so on.

They’re not the only superpower anymore: 36 trillion overspending and still can’t lift people out of poverty with only a small population of 330 million.

They can’t handle immigrants and will melt down if some are illegals. Overall very delicate and brittle.

They profited from outsourcing then asks, where all their jobs go?!

What Asia does not welcome is the warmongering unique option Washington offers, another war to please their own interests.

The only Asian nation that learned from the West tried to copy their imperialist subjugation then got bombed into submission.

Stronger Sino Japan relations will mean more trade and less military spending.

"LDP ready to bootlick China, such juicy market" - fix that for you.

The US administration’s sole intent is to destabilize the Asian continent making up stories about China. You need to stick to history books,

China is its own worst enemy. It talks of peace and cooperation but tries to force other nations to cede territory China wants to control. This has nothing to do with history but factual occurrences from the time Xi took power in China until right now.

Your claim the US wants to destabilize Asia is claptrap, a bogus assertion. The US depends on peace to trade, where as China depends on its cheap manufacturing to outweigh its belligerence, to "have its cake and to eat it too". Xi wants to expand China's borders and build a new Chinese empire where China is the dominant power at the center of humanity. Sorry but the world does not share Xi's vision and will never bow to Chinese domination.

When I read about the billions of weapons ordered from US and the continuous military rhetoric from your clients I become skeptical. History taught us that Washington interests don’t go hand in hand with world peace

Quite the contrary. American interests are best served in peace and order, with democracy at the core of freedom for the individual. If I was you I would be much more concerned with Hollywood and the diabolical ability of US values and customs to pervade other nations. The insidious nature of constant streams of movies and TV series that show the world American values of freedom and rights is unending and impossible to stop. It influences the people of all nations in ways Governments cant, unless like NK you stop it all together.

By concentrating on the US military, you overlook and underestimate the real threat posed by Hollywood. It makes the US far more money and it influences other nations much more than its military establishment that sells weapons to friends and allies. Hollywood has no borders and its content is "sold" to friendly nations and to enemies alike.

quercetum

Hysteria continues over weather balloons, cranes, spying refrigerators, garlic, tomatoes and so on.

FYI, the latest China-phobia is drones.

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15563427

Welcome to the "Land of the Free": it seems we are back in the persecutions time of the 'Red Scare' between 1940 and 1950.

And imagine.... somebody in this forum was mentioning IP stealing of unfair trading practices from China.

This is when your realize the absurdity of these accusations and the double-standards in Washington.

Peter14

China is the dominant power at the center of humanity. Sorry but the world does not share Xi's vision and will never bow to Chinese domination.

I am not much into SCI-FI theories, I admit my limits., and I don’t know where you get your opinions.

The rise of China and its role in global capitalism have challenged the economic dominance of the west, and shattered the convenient notion that the market necessarily brings freedom. To create the impression that problems of political oppression or technological abuse are uniquely Chinese is to refuse knowledge of the complexity of governance, as well as of humanity

Again we need to stick to history here, facts that you cannot confute: 

In the course of the 20th century alone, Washington has participated in 39 armed conflicts, or one every three years, and since 2000 it has engaged in at least 12 wars, the equivalent of one every two years. 

Of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (who represent the great powers), only one has not fought a war in 40 years: China.

So when you talk about "Chinese domination" and "empire at the center of humanity", I guess you got a little carried away with the festive mood, and got confused with the main subject of the conversation.

Which is peace and diplomacy between China and Japan, and that is what is happening. rThe alternative is the $14 billions order of weapons Washington just shipped into Asia from the Pentagon for the so called deterrence. The same principles we witness every single day in the Middle East for the last year and half.

Peter14

American interests are best served in peace and order, with democracy at the core of freedom for the individual.

That is quite a statement, considering what is going on in Israel, America staunchest ally. Just to name one on such an important day for Christianity.

What is going on in Gaza is the most documented genocide in history: Palestinians are being intentionally massacred, starved, and stripped of everything needed to sustain human life. The demise of rule of law, a prelude to the hand of humanity.

And yet this terrible conflict could end the first 24 hours the US administration stops shipping lethal weapons to Israel. Over $20 billions (officially) since January 2024.

But, as we know, there is too much at stake for the US lobbies in Wall Street.

So why is Israel's protracted impunity tolerated? 

I am afraid but there is a total disconnection from any psychological perception from your side, and to hear something like that on Christmas day really makes you think what (un)kind world we leave in

quercetumToday 08:28 pm JST

So Taiwan and China both claim the islands belong to China.

But not the same "China." Taiwan claims them for the ROC, and China for the PRC.

so don’t try to gaslight people with misinformation.

Speak for yourself.

FOS

American interests are best served in peace and order, with democracy at the core of freedom for the individual.

That is quite a statement, considering what is going on in Israel, America staunchest ally.

Israel is nowhere near being Americas staunchest ally. Perhaps you meant it the other way around, yes?

So why is Israel's protracted impunity tolerated?

The Jewish nation has many supporters in the right places to help ensure it gets the sympathy and support it needs, in many nations. It even has them in Russia. They can sway opinions and outcomes in many ways.

Peter14

American interests are best served in peace and order, with democracy at the core of freedom for the individual.

The record of Wall Street and Nasdaq Composite do not serve the interests of American individuals who do not invest in the stock market and are not part of the secluded minority of the US lobbies (Blackrock, Fidelity, Vanguards), which in turn controls the top 5 weapons manufacturers in the world, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Technologies, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, General Dynamics. All Americans. And for the same reasons do not guarantee PEACE and ORDER to the rest of the world. They flare up tensions and destroy any hope of peace and reconciliation.

Israel is nowhere near being Americas staunchest ally. Perhaps you meant it the other way around, yes?

Mmhh… What do you exactly mean for the other way around? If you cannot even admit or pretend of not knowing the main basic truth which is the unbreakable bond between the US Congress/Lobbies and Tel Aviv, than I am sorry but I think we are just killing time. And as I said before, we promote peace here, there is no killing in any shape or form.

Will not happen unless you regain your sovereignty.

One of these “ people” may as well be standing there with a knife in the other hand

FosDec. 25 07:54 pm JST

All I know, and that it is easily traceable, is that the departing US administration of Mr Biden and Mr Blinken, have approved over $14 billions, and counting, of lethal weapons to Japan, South Korea and Taiwan in the last two months.

And that's a great thing as someone has to stand up to China bullying.

Whereas the Foreign Minister of China wants to shake hands with his Japanese counterpart to talk about commercial trade, visa for tourists, the restart of the fish industry and so on.

China weapons would not be welcome. I'm not even sure they are available for export because it might be figured out that they are hollow mockups.

Let's put things into perspective: Asia does not want and does not need the warmongering attitude of Washington.

Not according to their governments.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

Asia is afraid of China and that would be the starting point of any conversation.

you have to get close to someone to stab them in the back.

everybody wants to rule the world, as the song goes.

Does Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi offer certitude conviction?

Top Chinese diplomat Wang Yi told Japanese Foreign Minister Takeshi Iwaya at the outset of the talks in Beijing that the two countries are "partners for cooperation" and that he would like to see ties advance "on the right track."

Treacherous, fork tongued, unscrupulous serpent springS to mind.

Caveat emptor, buyer beware!!

A weak Japan and weak China is in US and Taiwan's interest. Keep them enemies.

rocketpigToday 05:19 am JST

A weak Japan and weak China is in US and Taiwan's interest. Keep them enemies.

Not sure how a weak Japan is in Taiwan's interest.

Not sure how a weak Japan is in Taiwan's interest.

Because when one is not read up or aware of Taiwan issues. All they know is Taiwanese Independence. That’s like saying US politics is only about abortion. This sounds like that.

It is in Taiwan interest because of competition in industries not to mention there is a whole side of Anti-Japanism in Taiwan.

quercetumToday 06:46 am JST

Sounds like someone only gets their news from the People's Daily:

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14590050

Your claim the US wants to destabilize Asia is claptrap, a bogus assertion. The US depends on peace to trade,

The US has a long history of interfering and meddling in Asia and Asian politics for it's own gain. This is a Japan Today website, so you must know the basics of how the US 'opened up' Japan for trade - Matthew Perry intimidated and threatened the Japanese and Okinawans in the mid 1800s, and eventually gave them an ultimatum of war or trade. Wow.

In China, American 'Merchants' in the 17 and 1800s, including the Roosevelt family, the Forbes family and many others prominent American families of the Eastern seaboard were involved in Opium smuggling. In fact, they made their fortunes from it. America intervened in the 2nd Opium war and was a pet of a coalition of Western forces that prised open China for their own economic benefit. This period is known in China as 'The Century of Humiliation', and I suggest you read this document in relation to it, to help you understand the subsequent perspectives of the Chinese towards foreign powers. It's a fascinating read, based on historical realities:

https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/3.10.11Kaufman.pdf

Further to this, and as I'm sure you know, The US continued to meddle in Chinese politics in the 20th century, funded the military dictator Chiang Kai Shek, who proved to be just as corrupt as any awful leader in history, and eventually fled to Chinese Taiwan with his US millions to try to create a new 'state'.

So, as you can see, the historical facts and reality is that the US has actively been destabilising Asia for centuries. For profit, not democracy.

isabelle

You can continue to live in the past if you wish... or you can step into the present day, where China is committing aggressive acts right now.

You can't separate history from the present day, because history shaped the now. You'd better read through the link as well.

TamaramaToday 07:55 am JST

Your claim the US wants to destabilize Asia is claptrap, a bogus assertion. The US depends on peace to trade, 

C'mon Pete, you are camped under the US Kool Aid vat here. Read some history.

The US has a long history of interfering and meddling in Asia and Asian politics for it's own gain. This is a Japan Today website, so you must know the basics of how the US 'opened up' Japan for trade - Matthew Perry intimidated and threatened the Japanese and Okinawans in the mid 1800s, and eventually gave them an ultimatum of war or trade. Wow.

And it is a good thing he did, too. What do you think russia's ultimatums would have been?

In China, American 'Merchants' in the 17 and 1800s, including the Roosevelt family, the Forbes family and many others prominent American families of the Eastern seaboard were involved in Opium smuggling. In fact, they made their fortunes from it. America intervened in the 2nd Opium war and was a pet of a coalition of Western forces that prised open China for their own economic benefit. This period is known in China as 'The Century of Humiliation', and I suggest you read this document in relation to it, to help you understand the subsequent perspectives of the Chinese towards foreign powers. It's a fascinating read, based on historical realities:

https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/3.10.11Kaufman.pdf

The 19th century called and they want their talking points back.

Further to this, and as I'm sure you know, The US continued to meddle in Chinese politics in the 20th century, funded the military dictator Chiang Kai Shek, who proved to be just as corrupt as any awful leader in history, and eventually fled to Chinese Taiwan with his US millions to try to create a new 'state'.

As was completely legal and right to do so: without Taiwan there would be no example to prove that Chinese can live under a democracy.

So, as you can see, the historical facts and reality is that the US has actively been destabilising Asia for centuries. For profit, not democracy.

China's been absorbing neighbors for millennia.

You can continue to live in the past if you wish... or you can step into the present day, where China is committing aggressive acts right now.

You can't separate history from the present day, because history shaped the now. You'd better read through the link as well.

The history is that the CCP is hell bent on proving that scummy democracy with chinese characteristics isn't a misnomer. They would like to destroy Taiwan to help prove that.

CPowell

Troops safe and stock market at all time high.

This sentence pretty much defines the principles of the participant of this forum and reiterates once again the need for the Asian continent, and for the whole civil society, to wise up. And again this is why we are to debunk all these assertions taken from the US military dispatches. Dialogue and diplomacy will prevail between China and Japan, and the multibillion dollars trade of US made weapons will subside. The continent will know peace and prosperity, and at some point the usual suspects will need to find another source of income.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

FOS

Israel is nowhere near being Americas staunchest ally. Perhaps you meant it the other way around, yes?

Mmhh… What do you exactly mean for the other way around? If you cannot even admit or pretend of not knowing the main basic truth which is the unbreakable bond between the US Congress/Lobbies and Tel Aviv,

America is Israels staunchest ally but the reverse is not true as America's staunchest ally is Australia and UK. Australia has supported America through every conflict even when the UK didnt. (UK did not fight in Vietnam). Israel has never sent forces to aid America in any conflict. Is that clearer for you?

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

No matter how many time you print that lie, it wont ever be truth. Asia would expel China from the Asian region if it could do so. China is NOT welcomed or respected in Asia. Simple and honest.

Peter14

Oh oh... we have history lessons from Australia now. What a privilege! 

Of all the terrible conflicts in the world as we speak, Gaza, Lebanon, Ukraine, Yemen, just to name a few, in all of them are employed American weapons, supplied in billions and billions of dollars. None of them are Chinese, is it? 

That America holding war games in those waters halfway around the world from it is miraculously not threatening, but Beijing holding war games practically in sight of Chinese territory is seems rather an illogical proposition. 

As for your initial claim, everyone knows the United States is Israel’s best friend. The White House gives Israel massive amount of aid annually (including the $20 billions dollars for the ongoing mass killings in Middle East), consistently blocks UN Security Council resolutions condemning Israel, and backs its military offensives publicly.

So good luck with that Australia!

The only difference is that China belongs to Asia, whereas the United Stated of America is just selling weapons of mass destruction as explained above and it is not welcomed

Of all the terrible conflicts in the world as we speak, Gaza, Lebanon, Ukraine, Yemen, just to name a few, in all of them are employed American weapons, supplied in billions and billions of dollars. None of them are Chinese, is it?

Plenty of Chinese, Russian, Iranian, American and European weapons are employed in the conflicts you mentioned.

That America holding war games in those waters halfway around the world from it is miraculously not threatening, but Beijing holding war games practically in sight of Chinese territory is seems rather an illogical proposition.

Being invited to participate in other nations military exercises is hostile now? Thats a new one.

China has stated military objectives that include taking ownership of other nations, of international waters and airspace and other nations internationally recognized exclusive economic zones. America has no such objectives.

everyone knows the United States is Israel’s best friend. The White House gives Israel massive amount of aid annually (including the $20 billions dollars

So now your onboard with my point. US is Israels top supporter but Israel is NOT America's top supporter as you initially and incorrectly claimed.

China belongs to Asia,

China seems to believe Asia belongs to China. It doesn't.

whereas the United Stated of America is just selling weapons of mass destruction as explained above and it is not welcomed

Another lie, the US does not sell WMD's, it sells conventional weapons only. As does China, Russia, European nations and America. If you cant be honest, best to be quiet.

Peter14

The truth is United States of America and Israel are the same entity. And the fact they are both responsible of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and Lebanon, is one reason NOT to side with them, and the main motive why Asia and Japan welcome China instead , as the only country of five permanent members of the UN Security Council who has not fought a war in 40 years. That’s history class, not propaganda. 

US backing for Israel its about strategic calculation and foreign policy interests. The Senate resolution supporting Israel’s recent offensives in Gaza passed unanimously as many “pro-Israel” bills and resolutions do. Which again explain who United States are: an imperialist country trying to safeguard its own interests

The truth is United States of America and Israel are the same entity

No, they really are not.

I do not support Israel's genocide in Gaza, and would prefer the US to limit any assistance until peace is settled. But I will not condemn the US as it does far more good than bad around the world. That may change with Trump taking over in a few weeks time, but for now they do much more good.

Israel is responsible for its own deplorable actions and it would still be at war with Palestinians without any US support, but more Israelis would be dying through more direct combat.

FosToday 03:20 pm JST

Peter14

The truth is United States of America and Israel are the same entity.

That's quite hilarious considering the population would be up in arms if one US service member died in the line of duty in Israel.

And the fact they are both responsible of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and Lebanon, is one reason NOT to side with them, and the main motive why Asia and Japan welcome China instead , as the only country of five permanent members of the UN Security Council who has not fought a war in 40 years. That’s history class, not propaganda. 

East Asia understands dealing China belligerance is more important than trying to attack US support for Israel.

US backing for Israel its about strategic calculation and foreign policy interests. The Senate resolution supporting Israel’s recent offensives in Gaza passed unanimously as many “pro-Israel” bills and resolutions do. Which again explain who United States are: an imperialist country trying to safeguard its own interests

With a terrorist supporting Iran in the region and soon-to-be former russian bases, it is entirely reasonable to oppose the dictatorship brigade on every front.

Full of SomethingToday 10:14 am JST

Troops safe and stock market at all time high.

This sentence pretty much defines the principles of the participant of this forum and reiterates once again the need for the Asian continent, and for the whole civil society, to wise up. And again this is why we are to debunk all these assertions taken from the US military dispatches. Dialogue and diplomacy will prevail between China and Japan, and the multibillion dollars trade of US made weapons will subside. The continent will know peace and prosperity, and at some point the usual suspects will need to find another source of income.

If you are trying to sell that China doesn't do business with anyone in the world no matter how filthy, I don't think anyone is buying.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

Asia fears China and that would be the starting point of any conversation.