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How many affirmations do we need?

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Michael MachidaToday  08:29 am JST

How many affirmations do we need?

exactly! there's a lot of it about recently, all the political-talking-heads putting on a show of "look at us, agreeing to agree". I'm sure China's quaking in its shoes.... (^_-)

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Michael MachidaToday  08:29 am JST

How many affirmations do we need?

This is how Agreements work, both in international relations as well as business. If Affirmations bother you I can imagine how you'd feel about Memorandums. Best just ignore it.

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There is no country "Taiwan". (Taiwan is the name of an island.) The country at risk is The Republic of China. That name is the crux of the problem. I wonder what would happen to these "affirmations" if President Tsai were to declare independence?

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How many affirmations do we need?

Exactly...for a hundredth time, we are on the same page...don,t forget to re-affirm commitment to Senkaku islands and the US-Japan alliance whilst you,re at it, since its already been like a couple of months since the last affirmation.

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I wonder what would happen to these "affirmations" if President Tsai were to declare independence?

I really wouldn't trust someone who continually lies about her educational history. Her PhD from the University of London is the only one of that year whose thesis cannot be found on the database. And the title of her thesis keeps changing.

How many affirmations do we need?

A lot, if you suffer from dementia.

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As President Tsai has stated many times, "There is no need for us to declare our independence. We are an independent nation with our own government, military, flag, passports, judiciary, currency, etc."

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There is a monthly or probably weekly quota for a US-Japan affirmation regarding Taiwan and the Taiwan Straight.

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@Thomas

Actually Taiwan is usually used as a common name for the ROC which, btw, is made up of over 160 islands not including any disputed territories.

The main islan of Taiwan, also known as Formosa, is of course the largest.

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During a press conference Gina Raimondo confirmed that the launch of the framework that is still largely vague in substance, will be announced in Japan.

Kishida and Gina are going to get along great ,as Kishida loves announcements that are vague and lack substance !

In the upcoming summit , the two sides will once again highlight peace and stability for Taiwan

No ! ...Japan and the USA have refused to officially recognize Taiwan as an independent country .

Therefore Japan and the USA are stirring up trouble with China by opposing their unification of what is obviously a province of China.

Using the Ukraine crisis as an exuse to escalate tensions in the region with China.

The USA continues to bamboozle Japan into believing they will become the superior nation of Asia.

Japan already thinks its superior which hasn't changed since the Imperial army surrendered - or did they ?

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Funny how everyone was fine with the status quo until cross-strait relations improved a lot under President Ma, and then USA started to get unhappy.

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Yet another step in the special political operation going on in Taiwan. It's obviously going against the international law, but who's judging..

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Kishida, Biden to affirm alignment over Taiwan:

The move implies US-Japan continual commitment to support Taiwan for the sake of the security/stability of Taiwan Straits.

This is tantamount to telling Beijing, 'Hands off from Taipei.'

How openly presumptuous, overtly arrogant..

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People are always so stupid. Historically, the earliest China was ROC, not the current China. Then the United States broke off diplomatic relations with the ROC in order to fight the Soviet Union. ROC withdraws from the United Nations. Then these so-called historians learn the history of the CCP, and the CCP has revised a lot of history. For example, tens of millions of people starved to death in China because of CCP policies. The CCP persecutes scientists who study Western knowledge. Many scientists have fled China. Totalitarian states have no history. Because maintaining power requires lies, which is why some countries don't like to play by the rules. Taiwanese have been using ROC ID cards. Taiwan's constitution has always been called the ROC constitution, which has not changed.

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@niko top1

Do you think a government which is driven to retreat to an island still has legitimacy as the ruler of the land? Whoever rules the mainland China, represents the nation of China, that's a simple fact.

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Do you think a government which is driven to retreat to an island still has legitimacy as the ruler of the land? Whoever rules the mainland China, represents the nation of China, that's a simple fact.

Sure, and blue is blue, up is up, and Taiwan is an independent nation.

Good luck on China trying to take it now - they've seen how the world reacts to countries that invade their neighbors and murder them. The Russians showed exactly what happens when a country does that.

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President Tsai's academic qualifications are true, and President Tsai's academic qualifications are a rumor from a long time ago. Why is there no sound about the fraudulent academic qualifications of the Taiwanese president now? The fraudulent presidential academic qualifications were rumors from the beginning. Taiwan is a country that can be highly critical of the government. If you don't believe what I'm saying, you can visit Taiwan's online community yourself and use Google Translate. On the contrary, the academic qualifications of Chinese leaders are fake. Voice of America interviewed a high-level official in China. This high-level official has a good relationship with Chairman Xi's father. He was Chairman Mao's secretary. His name is Li Rui. He then revealed that President Xi had a very low education and dropped out of school early. He obtained a degree from the best university in China through privilege. But he doesn't speak English. However, the English scores of Chinese universities have rigid standards. In China, English is the main subject. If you want to be close to the best universities, you need a score close to full marks, and you need an English grading certificate to graduate from the university. And Xi Jinping has not used the video of English communication.

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Besides before Taiwan was moved into that island had its own aboriginal population.

Of course no body seems to care about the indigenous people's sovereignty because Taiwanese are Chinese.

So to clarify the ROC actually invaded a sovereign aboriginal nation and now call it Taiwan.

Mathew perry wanted to claim it but the United States declined.

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Time to officially end the concept of a "one China policy".

Make a new "Two China's" policy. Separately ruled and separate paths.

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So to clarify the ROC actually invaded a sovereign aboriginal nation and now call it Taiwan.

And now CCP make plans to invade a sovereign Taiwan and call it Communist China.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

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Do you think a government which is driven to retreat to an island still has legitimacy as the ruler of the land? Whoever rules the mainland China, represents the nation of China, that's a simple fact.

The Republic of China was founded by Sun Yat-sen in 1911 after finally defeating the Qing Dynasty and forcing the Mongos out. When he died Chiang Kai-shek was his successor. Mao started a civil war to oust Chiang and form a Communist government. During this time the Japanese were on the march in China. Chiang Kai-shek was on the verge of defeating Mao but had to disengage to fight the Japanese. Chiang was almost deposed by others in the Nationalist government because he was fixated on beating Mao and not the Japanese.

Mao used this opportunity to flee in what the Communists call the "Long March", what I call the Long Retreat. Mao and his forces hid and did not fight Japan. In fact Mao often told the Japanese were Chiang's forces were so they could attack ROC forces and wear them down. Mao knew the Soviets would enter the war and push the Japanese out of China. In the meantime Mao hid out, rested his forces and armed them with the latest Soviet weapons while Chiang's forces fought the Japanese. When WWII was over and Japanese out of China, Mao's rested and re-armed forces swept out of the north and Chiang's war weary forces were no match.

Based on the stories of my own family in Shanghai nobody expected Mao to win or what came afterwards. Everyone was tired of decades of constant warfare and just wanted to live in peace. They never thought to pick up weapons and fight Mao because they really didn't understand what Mao was intending to do. Now they regret it but feel powerless to throw the Communists out. Mao treated our own family very badly since Momma was a teacher, a major target of the Red Guards and her father was a prominent business owner, i.e. "capitalist roader" or "capitalist running dog". They lost everything and were run out of Shanghai to live in poverty. Don't expect a kind word or any sympathy from me or my family for the thugs running China today. Mao didn't come to power honestly or with the support of the Chinese people.

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I may be alone in this thought, but in the fullness of time I expect the ROC government on Taiwan to outlive the CCP. The CCP looks mighty but their government is rigid and brittle. Popular dissatisfaction with the CCP grows each and every year, disputes are piling up, the CCP has decreasing support from the business community as restrictions pile up and China is losing friends around the world as nations are offended by China's demands and their caustic wolf warrior "diplomats". If the west maintains a sufficient military deterrent and nobody does anything precipitous the ROC may very well survive the demise of the CCP. What comes after that will be interesting indeed.

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So to clarify the ROC actually invaded a sovereign aboriginal nation and now call it Taiwan

Some major deflection there.

Also

So to clarify the USA actually invaded a sovereign aboriginal nation and now call it Hawaii.

Happens a lot it would seem. Probably Hokkaido as well.

Back on topic history still makes Taiwan the original Chinese nation in exile

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Taiwan was Japanese land for a while, and of course Taiwanese people learn Japanese. After the surrender of Japan after World War II, the land was returned, and the Chinese government at that time was called ROC. CCP then pushed KMT back to Taiwan. And the US doesn't want to help kmt. Later, after the participation of China in the Korean Civil War, the United States began to support kmt. Later, the United States broke off diplomatic relations with the ROC in order to confront the Soviet Union, and the ROC also withdrew from the United Nations. The CCP never notified Taiwan. Later, Taiwan moved towards democracy under pressure from the United States.

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So to clarify the ROC actually invaded a sovereign aboriginal nation and now call it Taiwan

Not really. In the 16th Century the island was colonized by the Dutch and the Spanish. Dutch forces expelled the Spanish and Formosa was a Dutch colony for about a century. The Dutch were in turn expelled by the Qing because a large crime gang from the mainland was taking refuge there and kind of using it as their base of operations. It was during Qing rule that significant Han Chinese immigration to Formosa occurred. The Japanese would show up later but by then there was already a significant Han Chinese population. After WWII the US turned Taiwan, then still called Formosa, over to the ROC government.

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