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It's ok for foreign national to be detained without lawyer by Japan hostage justice system but it's not Ok for Japanese to be detained abroad?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2019/01/11/commentary/japan-commentary/japans-hostage-justice-system/

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so this was reason why he went to China and burn a lot of taxpayers cash?

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so this was reason why he went to China and burn a lot of taxpayers cash?

If you were detained lawfully or otherwise in a foreign country, would you not want your own government working to secure your release and/or return home?

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Haa,the government has no legal obligation to get you out of jail,only a visit by the counselor

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Haa,the government has no legal obligation to get you out of jail,only a visit by the counselor

Did I say that? No. I asked if he would want them to be working toward his release. Of course there is no legal obligation.

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An what legal theory,he should be released,China do not have any protection for right of the accused

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On what legal theory? Retaliation in kind. The Japanese government could secure the release of the detained pharma employee by arresting one of many Chinese spies operating in Japan.

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An what legal theory,he should be released,China do not have any protection for right of the accused

irrelevant to my question. Would you, as a tax paying citizen of a country, want your government doing all that it can to help you if you were detained in a foreign country? It’s actually a simple yes or no answer. If your answer is no then fine. I may question your honesty but ok, that’s your answer. If your answer is yes after posting the comment that I was originally responding to, then it’s hypocrisy. It’s irrelevant whether your government actually has any ability to do anything or not.

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Would you, as a tax paying citizen of a country, want your government doing all that it can to help you if you were detained in a foreign country? 

What a loaded question. Would you, if you were famished, want to eat? What’s the point of that?

There is no legal obligation. It’s about leverage and negotiations.

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What a loaded question. Would you, if you were famished, want to eat?

So you agree that a tax paying citizen of a country is likely to want as much help as possible in that situation. Crying about a government using tax payer money to do that is then hypocrisy.

There is no legal obligation.

Yes, we know. That was already established much earlier.

It’s about leverage and negotiations.

Which would be a government trying to do what it can and using tax payer money.

beside I would raise so much hell,they would expel me willingly

Lol. No they wouldn’t.

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But, but, but . . . Hostage taking, as with Russia, is an important part of China foreign diplomacy.

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Muzukashii desu ne. Meaning: Difficult in English, impossible in Japanese.

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This will get nowhere. Japan lacks the financial power and political power to dissuade China. This meeting will only cost taxpayers more as well as the valuable times of Chinese bureaucrats who will endure a session of Japanese begging.

On what legal theory? Retaliation in kind. The Japanese government could secure the release of the detained pharma employee by arresting one of many Chinese spies operating in Japan.

Chinese "spies" in Japan are the top elites who bribe big bucks to Japanese elites akin to the Unification Church. Retaliatory acts against China are the same as cutting Japan's own throat economically. Almost all of the Japanese elites are completely under China's or other foreign entities' control.

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It does not make sense to demand they free an accused criminal. They can demand a fair trial, and if he is innocent, then they can demand his release.

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It does not make sense to demand they free an accused criminal. They can demand a fair trial, and if he is innocent, then they can demand his release.

Since there are no fair trials in China, might as well skip a step. You can't even speak to the accused. People vanish all of the time and we find out they have been disappeared by the "legal" system there.

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China: What will you give us in exchange for one hostage?

It looks as though all Westerners should clear out of these dictatorships before they also become hostages. It's been a big mistake for Western companies to try and do business in countries like China and Russia. They become rich and arrogant and what do they immediately do, they start committing acts of naked aggression by invading their peaceful neighbors.

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Last place you want to be in a Chinese prison,busting rock all day

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Septim DynastyApr. 2  02:08 pm JST

This will get nowhere. Japan lacks the financial power and political power to dissuade China. This meeting will only cost taxpayers more as well as the valuable times of Chinese bureaucrats who will endure a session of Japanese begging.

What do you care about Japanese tax payers? Unless you care tax you are paying in Japan. Typical example of

those p*si in Japan

On what legal theory? Retaliation in kind. The Japanese government could secure the release of the detained pharma employee by arresting one of many Chinese spies operating in Japan.

Chinese "spies" in Japan are the top elites who bribe big bucks to Japanese elites akin to the Unification Church. Retaliatory acts against China are the same as cutting Japan's own throat economically. Almost all of the Japanese elites are completely under China's or other foreign entities' control.

Just one example/evidence is appreciated

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