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OMG! Kim's fingers must be trembling so badly that the vibrations accidentally triggered the launch of nuclear missiles aimed at Tokyo and Seoul!

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Some planes go flying. Friendly nations work together. Nothing to see here.

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Why can't the US just talk directly with Pyongyang instead of playing the holier than thou attitude despite its trails of destruction and killings of innocent women and children from Afghanistan to Zyria ?

If not for Kim's missiles, NK could have easily become a colony like Okinawa which is now known as the Crimea of Asia!

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 colony like Okinawa which is now known as the Crimea of Asia

Crimea is the Crimea of Asia because Crimea is in Asia.

No one but you calls it that and no one of intelligence equates Okinawa to a colony since it does not fit the definition whatsoever.

Why can't the US just talk directly with Pyongyang instead of playing the holier than thou attitude despite its trails of destruction and killings of innocent women and children from Afghanistan to Zyria

Ask that question to the DPRK, they're the aggressors

Why does China kill the innocent women in children in Tibet, East Turkistan, and threaten to invade India?

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America is becoming a showcase of obsolete weapons' systems. With the air defense technology available today, manned bombers? Aircraft carrier centered 'battlegroups'? Surface ships with no submersion capabilities? Tanks? I believe all of these will see the same fate in the next major war ("Generals always fight the last war") which battleships ("dreadnaughts" fer crissakes!) and horse cavalry saw in WWII. Antique thinking generals and admirals will sacrifice hundreds of thousands of America's best young people to almost immediate and horrific death. Big, slow aircraft (B-2 'stealth, Top speed: 628 mph, B-1 on bombing runs), big slow, indefensible ships (see: Skvall, 'Cruise', tactical nukes) , coffinesque tanks (est. battlefield life = ~5 minutes) will guarantee early defeat simply by loss of adequate sacrificial Humans. Bombers, alone, were seen as "dinosaurs" 40 years ago but politics keeps them around.

There is a new strategy that is staring these planners in the face and that is 'swarm' tactics. For example, in the naval sense this would be a fleet of similar multipurpose vessels carrying, say, 2 VTOL aircraft each, a couple of UAVs including ASW, the usual missiles and local defense (e.g. Gatlings), fast trihulls with extensible hydrofoils, near surface submersibility, and hydrojet propulsion in a size somewhere around a destroyer. These would be deployed in small highly dispersed and co-ordinated 'swarms' of about 20 units each in a 1-2000 unit total fleet. The costs of such a fleet could not be more than the costs of our current suicidal archaicisms whose costs in the next major world war will be catastrophic.

I am just an old exJarhaid and not a 'military planner' but even I can see the obsolescence in our planning which those with 'credentials' deny or claim "Oh, we've planned for that but it's 'secret'". Horsepuckies! Just like the generals understood machine guns and 'Human wave attacks' at the start of WWI after owning the hardware for thirty years and the tactic for 10,000 years. But, military mentalities are almost universally 'conservative' and the very definition of conservatism includes that one can only look backward. I actually could not give a 'sh*t about who 'wins' the next 'world war' because I will be dead anyway, but I care greatly for the young kids who will be convinced, coerced, or just forced by threat of harm to defend our ruling psychopaths on all sides who man these floating, flying, and rolling tombs in which our backward thinkers have trapped them. Their collective lives are worth so much more to Humanity than any of the psychopaths who create these compulsive conflagrations which they, and they alone, inflict upon us when the mood suits and greed becomes deranged beyond its usual psychotic boundaries.

Just sayin'...

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I am just an old exJarhaid and not a 'military planner' 

There's a reason why Lance Corporals aren't involved in plans and strategy.

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Crimea is in Asia... Harharhar! ROFL!

Ok dokey, then Hawaii must be in the Black Sea! Lol!

Or you meant that Okinawa is the Crimea of Asia! Yes! I agree!

NK is the aggressor? ... Harharhar! since when did Kim invaded Iraq and the Nguyens? Lol!

Tibet? Ask your business partner, China! Harharhar, you're silent partners aren't you?

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Clearly a demonstration for the easily impressed and terminally stupid at home, a propaganda stunt for Trump's supporters. It changes nothing, fixes nothing, and is actually a demonstration of weakness and impotence -- exactly the opposite of what a competent President would want to achieve. Trump hasn't even staffed up his Asian branch of the State Department, so there's no diplomacy going on either. As always, epic fail on Trump's part.

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Trump is our idiot in Chief, but hopefully strategic decisions are being made at the Pentagon by people with intelligence and experience. For all our sakes including our men and women who serve their country.

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NK is the aggressor? ... Harharhar! since when did Kim invaded Iraq and the Nguyens? Lol!

North Korea did invade and continue to threaten South Korea

The US and North Korea did have a deal before - and North Korea violated it

https://www.britannica.com/event/Agreed-Framework

Agreed Framework, 1994 political agreement in which North Korea agreed to suspend its nuclear power program in return for increased energy aid from the United States. The Agreed Framework sought to replace North Korea’s nuclear power program with U.S-supplied light-water reactors, which are more resistant to nuclear proliferation.

In retrospect, the Agreed Framework was not the success it appeared at the time it was signed. The United States and North Korea failed to normalize relations with one another, and North Korea periodically blocked the IAEA inspections. In October 2002 North Korea admitted that it had created a separate program to manufacture uranium-based nuclear weapons. The United States, in turn, suspended its heavy-oil shipments and stopped construction on the light-water reactors. In retaliation, North Korea withdrew from the NPT, expelled all IAEA inspectors, and reactivated its plutonium program at Yŏngbyŏn, thus ending the agreement. As a result, negotiations over North Korea’s nuclear program evolved into a larger process known as the Six Party Talks, which included the U.S, South Korea, Japan, China, and Russia.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

That's why the US is now extra reluctant when making a deal with North Korea - they believe North Korea would be less likely to violate a deal again if that meant North Korea would be embarrassing its own benefactors China and Russia (meanwhile, both South Korea and Japan want a seat at the negotiating table too)

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Why aren't these daily flights?

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They might be preparing to bomb Pyongyang.  Not places where people live. 

But I'm not sure on USA plane. During WWII, B24 and B29 bombed Tokyo housing area everyday.

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toshikoJuly 9 10:40 pm JSTThey might be preparing to bomb Pyongyang. Not places where people live. 

But I'm not sure on USA plane. During WWII, B24 and B29 bombed Tokyo housing area everyday.

Are you sure about B-24s? I thought they only bombed targets in Kyushu after being based in Okinawa. The B-29s of course bombed all over Japan including Tokyo.

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