U.S. defense chief calls China's refusal to meet unfortunate

U.S. defense chief calls China's refusal to meet unfortunate

Is there anything left to discuss?

China knows the outcome do it does not want to waste time.

I agree with the US official who says the US should not be reaching out to Austin’s counterpart who is sanctioned by the U.S. Countries won’t take your sanctions seriously if you do that and makes you look weak.

Is there anything left to discuss?

Yes, the whole not ending the world thing. If another Chinese balloon shows up over the US, presumably China would like to take the call rather than receive a missile barrage in response.

And Lloyd Austin is a just token hire. You listen to these US figureheads and it’s obvious they’re just messengers. He is a figurehead used the same way as the late Gen. Colin Powell was by the WH for the exact same purpose, namely justifying aggression under the pretext of racial equality and freedom. His input is not recognized anyway, so why bother?

China knows the outcome do it does not want to waste time.

Exactly. Waste of time.

And Lloyd Austin is a just token hire. 

He's not going to be a token hire if he is part of the team that brings down Russia on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Remove the silly sanction and then talk.

Proof that Nobody cares what Austin has to say. total joke of a “leader” now that he cares about politics and wokeness more than his troops.

that’s a shame.

Proof that Nobody cares what Austin has to say. total joke of a “leader” now that he cares about politics and wokeness more than his troops.

Why on Earth would the Chinese take this guy seriously?? Smh…

He and Blinken are perhaps the worst combo in those 2 jobs in history.

What do you want to discuss?how cause of Usa prsident, helping Ukraine with arms and involving other countries against Russia? when China told you to not interfere between Ukraine and Russia! and now we are at a world caos between Nations! also interfere between taiwan and China! China had enough of Usa !

China is afraid. Shivering, yelling and doing wolf-warrior diplomacy. There's a Chinese saying: a poor dog when forced into a blind alley would look fierce and defiant.

In my view, a positive aspect of a meeting between China and America regarding the Annual Security Conference is the potential for diplomatic dialogue and collaboration between two influential global powers.

Such a meeting can provide an opportunity for constructive engagement and the resolution of conflicts or tensions between the two countries.

A meeting can serve as a platform for discussing and resolving existing disputes or conflicts between China and the United States. Dialogue and negotiation can help prevent the escalation of tensions and promote peaceful coexistence.

Both China and the United States possess significant resources and capabilities that can be leveraged for the betterment of global peace.

Collaborative efforts in areas such as nuclear non-proliferation, counterterrorism, climate change, and humanitarian aid can have a positive impact on global stability.

Promoting understanding and trust: Face-to-face meetings allow leaders from both countries to communicate directly, fostering mutual understanding and trust. Improved understanding of each other's perspectives can help bridge gaps and promote cooperation in areas of mutual interest.

A China-US meeting can serve as a catalyst for broader multilateral engagement. By demonstrating a commitment to dialogue and collaboration, both countries can encourage other nations to participate in collective efforts aimed at maintaining world peace.

China and the United States are two of the largest economies in the world. A meeting focused on world peace can address economic concerns and promote stability in trade and investment, which can have positive ripple effects on global economic conditions.

There are additional positive reasons why China should attend the meeting and meet with America at the Annual Security Conference, however what I have written is a good place to start. Peace everyone.

Blacklabel @ 8.51am

Finding any diplomat that would meet your requirements/standards is a needle in a haystack mission.

@Michael Machida. Well, it was Donald Trump placed the senseless sanction on the entity of present Chinese Defence Minister. And Biden said he will but later refrained to lift that sanction. Now who is ridiculous at here?

The guy and his team regularly insults, criticizes, badmouths, threatens, sanctions, discrinates against, harasses, requires its vassals to support, just because…china is better at bussinss and doesn’t enjoy illegally invading sovereign nations and destroying them.

what is there to talk about?

NATO is also "Muslim" with its Turkey membership. So will Turkey be leaving NATO? It has always used its NATO membership to try and become an EU member. Turkey also wants F-16 planes.

Probably be better if Turkey left NATO.

China's TOO Busy Meeting with 2.2 billion Muslims & 85 million Turks,

Just how does China meet 2 billion Muslims in 50 countries? Turks are Muslims too. China excludes its own Muslim nation and reports today show China attacking mosques to remove all Islamic features and replace them with Chinese ones.

ClayToday 02:39 pm JST

Still Putin's war.

RodneyToday 01:18 pm JST

The guy and his team regularly insults, criticizes, badmouths, threatens, sanctions, discrinates against, harasses, requires its vassals to support, just because…china is better at bussinss and doesn’t enjoy illegally invading sovereign nations and destroying them.

The only reason China guy doesn't is because he keeps his head down and silent like all CCP bots.

So let me get this straight.

The USA bad-mouthing China at every chance, threatening China with everything from military to sanctions, a non stop buccal ejection of threats and hate, and he is wondering why the Chinese are saying no to meeting!

I am really questioning the mental competency of the USA leadership.

It doesn't matter if everything say about China was true or not if you go an a year long rant against a place don't expect them to shake your hand and sit down nicely and talk.

To call someone a CCP bot is dehumanizing. Many top Chinese officials have advanced degrees or even PhDs in STEM and of course years of leadership experience. To think that they are unable to think independently or have zero agency is either a troll job which we see every day from certain posters or simply a sign of ignorance.

To call someone a CCP bot is dehumanizing. Many top Chinese officials have advanced degrees or even PhDs in STEM and of course years of leadership experience. To think that they are unable to think independently or have zero agency is either a troll job which we see every day from certain posters or simply a sign of ignorance.

They tow the party line regardless of the party competence, like some commentators here.

The USA bad-mouthing China at every chance, threatening China with everything from military to sanctions, a non stop buccal ejection of threats and hate, and he is wondering why the Chinese are saying no to meeting!

It doesn't matter if everything say about China was true or not if you go an a year long rant against a place don't expect them to shake your hand and sit down nicely and talk.

Well, can't everyone play China's game. It's called "Being two faced!" The USA is taking a page out of China's book!!

China says: "We are a peaceful nation and are committed to peace in the South China Sea. "

BUT then they say: "We will smash Taiwan and any form of self rule!"

China says: "We don't interfere with the domestic affairs of other countries!"

BUT then they say: "Japan shouldn't attend the NATO summit because it undermines regional peace and stability."

The USA bad-mouthing China at every chance, threatening China with everything from military to sanctions, a non stop buccal ejection of threats and hate, and he is wondering why the Chinese are saying no to meeting!

Have you seen what the Wolf Warrior scum and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs produce? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The point is we have to talk to prevent China from being attacked inadvertently or from attacking inadvertently.

I have reasonable standards but the CCP laughs at both these clowns, especially Austin. So just that alone makes them ineffective in their jobs.

TaiwanIsNotChina

Today 04:00 pm JST

The USA bad-mouthing China at every chance, threatening China with everything from military to sanctions, a non stop buccal ejection of threats and hate, and he is wondering why the Chinese are saying no to meeting!

> Have you seen what the Wolf Warrior scum and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs produce? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The point is we have to talk to prevent China from being attacked inadvertently or from attacking inadvertently.

The USA talks freedom then defendeds the 6 top Ivy League universities practice of baring Asian students not Chinese Asian including ethnic Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc... because they study and too many pass the entrance.

The USA has a problem with Asians it always has and you defend it,

Why is it the second Biden got in office we suddenly have nothing but conflicts.

I disliked Trump I thought for sure Biden would be better and more reasonable and my Trump supporter acquaintances all said this would happen I didn't believe them.

I was wrong.

One disaster after another and it looks like these guys are still looking for a world war.

I voted for Biden. Biden's foreign policy has been Cold War 2.0 on steroids. It's clear former Senate Foreign Relations Chair Biden is stuck in the 1980s mindset. The Pentagon says thank you and ching ching. Both Trump and Biden are way too old. To think that either of these guys will be leading the "Free World" from 2024-2028 is frightening.

Many top Chinese officials have advanced degrees or even PhDs in STEM and of course years of leadership experience.

If you have superior leaders, both a democracy or a meritocracy system will work well. The problem in any government is choosing or electing the leader. Choosing is fine in a meritocracy system and electing is in a representative republic / democracy system.

In a democratic system the person who want to be a leader tries to sell him/herself to the public, that he has the best features to be the leader. In this system, these sales persons with the best social charisma and charm can become leaders. It is very seldom that the chosen one is the ideal leader. Leaders with the smartest mind and have the bureaucratic knowledge to run a country could be out maneuvered by these talkers. Sales people could sell water as whiskey and and will do anything to be elected.

The Chinese system is a combination of both the meritocracy and the democracy. The bases of the government system is the old Confucius government doctrines of Meritocracy and the western style democracy like the Swiss canton system and the communist system of centralized government discipline. Some elements meritocracy is in the Chinese system but most of democracy features were taken from the Swiss canton system. This system is more or less the system used in electing the representatives to the national peoples congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantons_of_Switzerland?wprov=sfti1

The leadership of China is based on the emperor system but the leadership has been replaced by a group leadership so no dictator could emerge. (Most of you think Xi is the one who dictates and while the head of the executive branch is the head of the military, he’s actually the one keeping back the PLA who would have used force to take Taiwan by now.) The bureaucracy of the government from the National congress is just constructed to save time and money to govern the legislature as efficient as possible. The money wasted on campaigns and elections in democracies is an example of inefficiency.

China has direct election open/closed of the representatives to the national congress. [Swiss canton system or UK election system]. Zhou En also added a branch of government, the military, next to the Judicial, Executive and the Legislative branches of government. The president is the supreme commander of the army. The chairman/president is the leader of the executive branch. Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

So it looks democratic on paper but why do we feel it’s an authoritarian state and Xi is a dictator? Few would call China a democracy despite the executive, legislative, and judicial branches described, there are fighting factions and politics within the CPC. There has to be with such a large single party of politicians. Only the ignorant would think all these politicians blindly toe the party line. The answer to this question is that the biggest calamities in China in the last 2,000 years have been foreign invasion and internal anarchy. Both types of events easily wiped out 30% - 50% of the population. Therefore, China favors stability and a strong central government. Only those strong enough to rule deserve to rule. Moreover, keeping the most populous country over a good size territory has been no small task. Nothing but the strongest internal consensus will do. So you have meritocracy.

That said, China’s “meritocratic system” is basically the National Exam as entry criteria to public service, and KPI-based promotion system afterwards. China has been using this government system for around 2,000 years. Even when it was the most prosperous country in the world, there has not been a single country that has copied this system, and the chances of any country copying this in the future is small.

The Chinese system evolved through 2,500 years (from -700 BC to now) of changing social conditions and upheavals. This did not happen in other states and in places that did not over such a long period time. Some know what this “Chinese system” is but those who possess less knowledge simply calls every thing Communism, dictatorship, authoritarian state and so on. They are the ones with little capacity to think. It can be said that even robots these days have larger capacities.

The leadership of China is based on the emperor system but the leadership has been replaced by a group leadership so no dictator could emerge.

An dictator already emerged. No term limits anymore. The essense of corruption. See? I didn't need paragraphs to state the obvious.

Only those strong enough to rule deserve to rule.

The CCP got the mandate of Moscow when it first stole power. It's unfortunate no one stopped this but it will probably collapse under its own incompetence before it reaches 100.

Why is it the second Biden got in office we suddenly have nothing but conflicts.

Could it be that criminal Putin was biding his time while he had his Manchurian Candidate in office?

The USA talks freedom then defendeds the 6 top Ivy League universities practice of baring Asian students not Chinese Asian including ethnic Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc... because they study and too many pass the entrance.

Limiting not barring. University admissions are of pretty low relevance for government freedom indexes but whatever irrelevant attacks you want to make, I am happy to address. Your friend quercetum called Austin a "token hire". Could it be that China is racist too by refusing to meet with him?

The USA talks freedom then defendeds the 6 top Ivy League universities practice of baring Asian students not Chinese Asian including ethnic Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc... because they study and too many pass the entrance.

The SAT math section is easy. 800 isn’t difficult to get. Two thousand five hundred years of the exam system breed good test takers. Asian 1580 is no guarantee to get in and many are barred due to their ethnicity.

A kid I know who goes to a private school in Yokohama spent a year in Phillips Andover, a good boarding school on the east coast. He was surprised at his classmates some of whom have much lower scores.