U.S. pressuring G20 allies on climate change language: French official

Let's just ignore Trump and sign a 19 countries' statement.

Right now Europe is in the middle of a heat wave, Spain is burning, India is running out of water, soon California is starting to burn again. All the signs of climate change are here.

If the US want to bury their heads in the sand, fine. Just don't let them pull us down with them.

Obama was smart enough to recognise the immediate dangers of climate change, but Trump remains completely ignorant. Most Americans can see and understand the growing danger. Trump remains blind, but alas he speaks for all Americans as their chosen President. When he is gone the US will return to its senses. Lets hope that happens in 2020 rather than 2024.

For anyone who believes the hype that CO2 causes 'climate change' please describe how it does this.

It's not hype, it's a long understood theory of chemistry & physics. You are basically arguing that the long-established properties of CO2 are 'hype', or a 'globalist conspiracy'. Climate science didn't start with Al Gore you know, it's been around for two centuries. I could talk to you about longwave radiation and such, but as it's invisible I'm reasonably sure you'll put its existence down to being a 'hoax' or something else politically motivated.

The current farcical occupant of the White House, once again, is on the wrong side of common sense. He, one more time, confirms he’s unfit to be President of the United States of America (POTUS).

Let me get this straight:

Washington is opposed to any endorsement

(...of a deal that it has already signed before). Tells a lot about the American attitude.

the usual trump call the kettle black when he is the kettle.

A man who believes the periodic table of elements has political leanings.

The noble gases are lazy and probably believe in robbing Paul to pay Peter.

Any Politician denying climate science and ignoring the need for immediate and drastic action, is an enemy of mankind and a direct threat to your grandchildrens survival.

Washington is pressuring allies at the G20 to reject strong climate change language in the meeting's final statement

One of the biggest contributors to climate change, and one of the biggest (if not the biggest) climate change deniers. What is America coming to? Sorry guys, but burying your head in the sand won't make the problem go away. Doesn't matter how inconvenient it is, the truth is still the truth. Grow up and deal with it.

Brazil under its new President Jair Bolsonaro and oil-producing Saudi Arabia are both considered climate change skeptics.

Both Brazil and Saudi Arabia, like Russia, are run by authoritarian regimes. Each country's economy is based on relies primarily on producing and selling fossil fuels.

If the US want to bury their heads in the sand, fine. Just don't let them pull us down with them.

Trump's a tool of big oil corporations. Among other 'bigs'.

Look at how much big energy has contributed to US Congress members. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=e01

@bas4 I would like to see you power a lawn mower with vegan juice, or a 787 with canola oil, let me know how it goes and get back to me.

That's why the right should lose: stuck in the 1950's and a disdain for science. Among thousands of other reasons. ROFL

Trump's a tool of big oil corporations. Among other 'bigs'.

You should have stopped before the word ‘of’.

Trump called climate change a hoax created by the Chinese. I don’t think even you have tried to defend this one. You may have talked about robbing Paul to pay Peter and socialism but you never addressed it.

What is your opinion of Trump’s idea?

Yes. Tiptoe around an existential threat to avoid upsetting dead-end Donald. Tick tock.

The leaders at the summit are wearing ties and jackets, yet the temperature today was hovering around 30 degrees celsius and the humidity was high after yesterday’s heavy rain.

Do they really care about climate change when most of them have arrived in Japan by private plane?

Still, the climate change taxes will soon be in force for ‘us’ all to pay.....

"Washington is pressuring allies at the G20 to reject strong climate change language in the meeting's final statement"

"Three or four (countries) are under American pressure to water down the message,"

Here come more sanctions. The bully has spoken.

Why the hell do these nations take any notice of the US? Why are they so intimidated by Washington? Why have these nations  surrendered their sovereignty to Washington and why have the people allowed this to happen?

Do they really care about climate change when most of them have arrived in Japan by private plane? Still, the climate change taxes will soon be in force for ‘us’ all to pay.....

Exactly

Conspiracy theorists are ten a penny and oh so predictable. I tend to go with scientific consensus. My background is in science although I’m no authority on climate science.

On the contrary, it is you who believes in the conspiracy theory. There is NEVER a consensus in science. It only takes one scientist to come up with empirical evidence contrary to the so-called consensus to blow a hole in any theory. And there is definitely no consensus on anthropogenic global warming /climate change. This is political.

What are your credentials in this field, or which scientists are you quoting who are against the scientific consensus?

The mainstream website, Wikileaks, has a list of major scientists who question or disagree that CO2 has any measurable impact on global temperatures. Take a look at their credentials!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

Petition: [...] There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth. 31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs

http://www.petitionproject.org/

There are many more scientists who realise that the CO2 issue is politically motivated but are reluctant to speak out because they risk losing their government or corporate funding, or even their positions.

Links please.

There are plenty but I don't have the time and this board is limited. Here are a couple for you to start with. If you want more I'll post them although I suspect you're not really interested since it challenges your belief system.

Geologist Informs UK Govt On Climate Change Lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLRObEhC4I

Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

[...] if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

Even the politicians know...

Trudeau Declares Climate Emergency... Then Approves Major Oil Pipeline

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trudeau-Declares-Climate-Emergency-Then-Approves-Major-Oil-Pipeline.html

It's also well-established that CO2 follows global temperatures, it does not drive temperatures.

Empirical Evidence Shows Temperature Increases Before CO2 Increase in ALL Records

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/09/empirical-evidence-shows-temperature-increases-before-co2-increase-in-all-records/

And since CO2 is denser than air it stays in the upper atmosphere for only a short time, so it's a trace gas at around 0.04% of the total amount. But don't believe me, check these things out for yourself.

Both Brazil and Saudi Arabia, like Russia, are run by authoritarian regimes. Each country's economy is based on relies primarily on producing and selling fossil fuels. 

Trump's a tool of big oil corporations. Among other 'bigs'.

I would like to see you power a lawn mower with vegan juice, or a 787 with canola oil, let me know how it goes and get back to me.

This is why the left will never win. Smh....

Right now Europe is in the middle of a heat wave, Spain is burning, India is running out of water, soon California is starting to burn again. All the signs of climate change are here.

I noticed in this and the last JT article on global warming that CO2 was not even mentioned. The debate's suddenly over. Now it's just assumed that CO2 is the culprit for 'climate change' when it is anything but. It's all based on emotion and fear-mongering rather than facts.

"Three or four (countries) are under American pressure to water down the message," a French presidency source told reporters in Osaka

Speaking of watering down the message, water vapour (H2O) is the largest contributor to the Earth's greenhouse effect and it has way more effect on temperature than CO2. For example:

Dry desert in summer = Daytime hot, Night-time cold.

Humid tropic region in summer = Daytime hot, Night-time very warm.

The difference of course is that humidity in the atmosphere retains the heat in a tropical environment whereas the heat rapidly dissipates in a dry desert environment.

So shouldn't the politician's be debating a deal over how to manage water vapour alongside CO2 if they somehow think that CO2 leads to man made climate catastrophe.

For anyone who believes the hype that CO2 causes 'climate change' please describe how it does this.