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The CCP is really dark minded, but I think they will not go so far and start a war with the rest of the world.

-4 ( +15 / -19 )

Yes because Winnie the Ping is insane and drunk with power

19 ( +30 / -11 )

Almost certainly they will.

21 ( +27 / -6 )

There will be no "try," they simply will. No one is going to stop them.

11 ( +25 / -14 )

Plan A

If Armageddon, massive global death and suffering on an unimaginable scale (WW3) is what they want, then taking a bravely independent and democratic Taiwan by force will be the option. It will be a conscious decision to start the war and there will be zero chance of packaging their aggressive behavior in a morally acceptable or defendable way.

Plan B

Calmer minds and souls prevail.

If they want to try and pull back on the aggressive behavior, avoid a catastrophic war they will be 100 percent free to try and bring Taiwan into their sphere of influence peacefully , through economic and political cooperation rather than coercion and threats. You give your partners a choice, that simple. Everyone wins. We all get to find a new respect for China and we can start working together on more pressing issues like climate change etc. Sons and daughters not sacrificed to the gods of war and we can all get on with our lives. Self determination.

We all know which option we would prefer. How bout it Xi? Possible?

9 ( +13 / -4 )

start a war with the rest of the world.

What world? Do you know how many countries actually recognize Taiwan? And the US is not on that list, btw

-10 ( +11 / -21 )

HK was a walk in the park for them. When Democrats attacked the US pro-Trump demo as an 'insurrection', they could no longer support HK protestors without looking like complete hypocrites. For domestic political advantage they tossed the HK people under a bus. The US, EU and Japan are trying to replicate Taiwanese tech production outside of Taiwan for a reason. Taiwanese parents might want to get their kids on to foreign university courses. After surrendering to the Taliban, the US are not going to take on China on their doorstep, militarily. They will just sanction China and its allies with trade blocks, which will cause more problems for the newly occupied Taiwanese and isolate the Japanese economy from a few primary markets.

We are close to both the US and China being happy to divide the world in two. An invasion of Taiwan would give both of them the chance to do that. Alternatively, China may simply choose to wait until the current regime in Taipei loses an election. A future pro-Beijing regime would invite them in a little, and they would build on that. China is quite good at the long game.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

To answer the question.... No, China will not use military force because thats not how Chinese foreign policy works.

Do you think Mexico will try to retake Texas?

-25 ( +7 / -32 )

The offense will probably plan the threat of force rather than force itself. Planes in the sky, ships in the sea, and, “Hi, I’ll be moving into your office. These nice soldiers will help you move your stuff out.”

Defense of Taiwan would have to start way before the above, as would Taiwan offense.

it will be a human and financial disaster no matter what happens. Pursuing this goal will be a mistake for China, and would be tragic for the rest of the world as well, I hope this isn’t the way things go,

3 ( +5 / -2 )

No, they have no need for such rashness. Taiwan will come back to China regardless of what any American or Japanese person thinks about the situation.

-25 ( +3 / -28 )

Simply No……no by force.

Basically people are betting Tawain’s population, means of production, and idenity against the CCP’s legitimacy. The CCP has too much to lose like the reign over China and all the money kicked back into their pockets.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

The CCP controlled China can't retake what's never belonged to them.

8 ( +13 / -5 )

I don't think by force. They could have tried that already if they wanted to. They'll continue diplomatic, economic and subterfuge efforts.

If the US ever collapses and loses nuclear weapon capability they might use force.

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

Yes, of course, it’s on their main agenda and also announced several times. If that will be done by military invasion or just only waiting until any occasional future CCP friendly majority in Taiwan hands it peacefully over , that we still don’t know and history will show.

Do you think Mexico will try to retake Texas?

Well, @MrKipling, they surely already do with maximum possible success, not officially but in practice, with drugs, immigration, violence, woke people and leftists…lol

6 ( +12 / -6 )

yes, yes and hell yes

5 ( +8 / -3 )

As long as Taiwanese people determined to defend themselves, China will never attack.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

I really hope they don't, but whereas a few years ago I wouldn't have thought this to be a likely scenario it certainly seems a legitimate thing to worry about now.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

There are a couple of Taiwan islands a stone through fromt the CCP coast, and they have not touched them. Why? That is the answer for the whole issue.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

There is a Chinese saying that a delay beats a disaster. There is an American saying, it's now or never. I wouldn't be surprised if some movement is made after the Olympics.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

There are too many similarities with the past.

In 1939 Hitler miscalculated that England and France would not assist Poland when Germany invaded it. Turns out it was the red line and history shows England who did not want war, gave an ultimatum to Germany to get out or consider itself at War with England.

Now Jinping Xi wants to invade Taiwan to make it part of his empire. He is banking on America and others not wanting to get involved in a major conflict just as Germany banked on England and others not getting involved.

Make no mistake, the US has a red line that if crossed will make it go to war. Taiwan is probably it.

Jinping desires to make Taiwan answer to him regardless of what they want. Like all tyrants and dictators before him, he believes he has a destiny. If he attempts to make his dream of conquest come true he will be remembered in the same way Hitler is remembered. Assuming anyone is left after WWIII to write world history. Jinping not only risks destroying peace, but world civilization and humanities future.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

No, not by direct military force.

Still, China has enough means and cash to be more than an annoyance to Taiwan. They could try to build artificial islands all around it, establish a sea blockade or some economic blockade of sorts. It would then depend on how other nations react.

The unknown (and scary) factor is that on either side, the pilot of a jet fighter or the captain of a vessel may lose his temper, in which case things could turn very nasty very quickly.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

There will be no "try," they simply will. No one is going to stop them.

There are plenty of allies backing up Taiwan.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Make no mistake, the US has a red line that if crossed will make it go to war. Taiwan is probably it.

Oh please. Who cares about the 'red line', it's all about the Benjamins, and that's why the US will never go it head to head with China, as it will be the straw that broke the camel's back.

The historical parallel to the 1939 Europe is off too.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Of course, because absolute power corrupts absolutely and China's rulers are like absolute monarchs.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Very unlikely, unless Taiwan attempts to make a push for actual independence. Which even in Taiwan (maybe particularly in Taiwan, compared to some western countries) there isn't sweeping support for. I think both parties will be content to keep things as is, though I am sure China would be more than happy to accept a peaceful re-integration if that movement ever got enough traction.

Basically, Taiwan would have to instigate it with a formal attempt to officially separate themselves, and they simply aren't that dumb. The status quo is pretty good for them after all.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Yes, but it is going to cost them more than they think!

1 ( +2 / -1 )

China is looking for revenge for the humiliation western countries did to them. Sun Tzu said, let your enemies fight, when they're tired, you just walk in and take victory. AUKUS vs France was something China welcomed, there will more in the future, just observe the news.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

I belive China definiely will attempt to take Taiwan by force. Especially as China's economy slows down, as it is starting to already, and the people start voicing their discontent in Xi and the CCP. And if China ever takes Taiwan it is guaranteed that down the road they will take Okinawa. China is a dangerous dictatorship that the world must stop, by showing China that the cost of taking Taiwan will be much much higher than they think.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Only a matter of time.

Several CCP leaders made this the ultimate goal. Taiwan.

155 PLA planes enter Taiwanese airspace in 3 days.

SDF needs to make drastic changes soon if we want to help Taiwan or USA defend against a possible alliance of Russia, China, N. Korea.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

No drama here, China does not want to invade Taiwan militarily or by force and a war is not convenient for anyone even for the limping US.

The annexation will take place with time and in a peaceful manner, the annexation was even contemplated years ago even by Taiwan, but the US in its desire to slow down the unstoppable progress of China is getting into creating problems where there are none.

The annexation will be a fact and it must be before 2049. when it is the centenary of the Chinese revolution..

ONE China is unstoppable..

GO CHINA !!..

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

The status quo is the best way to go, minus interference from do-gooders America. Even most Taiwanese prefer the status quo. But sooner or later, America is going to find other reasons to make sure it has a monopoly on global power.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

It's not a question of "recognition of Taiwan." That's never been the issue - stop confusing things.

The 30 year agreement is that China will NOT reunify Taiwan by force. If that promise is broken, then all bets are off.

Of course, the simple requirement would be a six month blockade of all shipping into or out of China would do the trick to bring China's economy to its knees. China's navy isn't even Blue Water capable yet, so they couldn't stop the blockade without waging war on the world (and it would be the world). They'd lose.

In the meantime, I guarantee you that Taiwan has the capability to go nuclear at a day's notice, so...yeah. Give it your best shot, Xinnie The Pooh.

But make sure your first shot works, because if not...

4 ( +6 / -2 )

The annexation will be a fact and it must be before 2049. when it is the centenary of the Chinese revolution..

Taiwan does not want to be part of CCP run China, now or in the future.

ONE China is unstoppable..

It was stopped 70 years ago and can not happen without without China invading or overthrowing the CCP.

No doubt the CCP and its few fans are dreamers. Able to dream the most unlikely things becoming reality. But it is only a dream to think anyone let alone 24 million someones would volunteer to lose freedoms they take for granted today, to be ruled by a tyrant emperor and his CCP army. Mainland China simply has nothing tempting to offer Taiwan. They live a better life independently of the mainland and they know it. Many on the mainland are beginning to see that too as more and more restrictions on life are imposed by the CCP on commoners.

GO TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE! That is what is inevitable.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Of course they will. The sooner the world wakes up to the fact that China are working against the rest of the world the sooner people in Tibet and Taiwan can enjoy freedom without fear of xi..

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Force???, do you know history???.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

KentarogaijinOct. 20  08:29 am JST

ONE China is unstoppable..

GO CHINA !!..

Supporting a dictatorship is like supporting cannibalism. It's all great until one day you find yourself on the menu.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Xi Jinping is certainly pathological in his thirst for absolute power, no doubt about that. But right now, he knows that he'd be biting the hand that feeds China: foreign trade.

China is establishing trade relations with non-Western nations to mitigate this. When they will deem that these alternative revenue streams will be sufficient to keep them buoyant through a conflict, and they will have direct access to raw materials, they will attempt to take Taiwan.

What happens then will depend on who's in the White House. But I doubt that anybody other than the Taiwanese people will be likely to send their sons to die for this foreign territory, so we will see trade embargos and the like.

Emboldened, China will probably take Mongolia, and then consolidate their power through economic activity and keep pitting Westerners against each other using troll farms, just like they've successfully accomplished in the US.

China will then be world bully number one.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

I believe it will happen. Sooner or later, it will. Whether because of some pretext ala "they're oppressing ethnic Chinese in Taiwan. We'll protect Chinese everywhere" ala Ukrainian Crimea (and then later tales of how x centuries that territory was theirs and only a few decades donated under XYZ rule) or they'll just swim those few miles across the sea in a few moments.

China can't be trusted, just like Hong Kong couldn't be trusted when it went from British administration to Chinese administration and promises of how HK will be autonomous, citizens won't even know the change, etc.

China claims that Taiwan is an indivisible part of it. That is, that Taiwan is a province of China. That it is and always has been. And anyone who claims otherwise is lying and being nasty, mean and meddling in China's internal affairs.

Now imagine the following situation:

China retakes Taiwan by force. The same Taiwan that China believes is an indivisible part of it. The same Taiwan that China considers to be one of its provinces.

This move will only feather China's own nest, because in fact this would be, according to previous claims, China invading China. China invading its own territory, Province. China would take back territory that it says has always been part of it. Simply grotesque.

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that China would be saying, in a way, that it hasn't been telling the truth for decades. And that therefore Taiwan was not part of it, etc.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

After watching China's ham-handed handling of "one country two systems" in Hong Kong, the people of Taiwan are not likely to voluntarily join China.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

One only has to see what happened to Hong Kong to know the fate of Taiwan, where many of my coworkers live. But the answer will be given in time by China.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Ego Sum Lux Mundi

No, they have no need for such rashness. Taiwan will come back to China regardless of what any American or Japanese person thinks about the situation.

"Taiwan will come back to China..." That's very telling language. _^

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Voted no, but it’s no not yet. If the power hungry egomaniac Pooh the Mighty continues to whip up the nationalistic fervour to cement his power and distract the carefully blinkered masses while forcing the choice of “guns before butter” and massively ramping up their offensive military power way beyond anything needed for defence then ultimately he will have to use it to justify the cost and a nice little victorious could well be the miscalculation too easily made by those distanced and insulated from reality in a political bubble of yes men like that he is creating around him to secure his power.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Well, because I'm often compared to Noam Chomsky by my pals, I will give my 2 cents.

First of all, any military action against Taiwan would involve the US military either defending Taiwan or backing off completely. I highly doubt China wants any direct confrontation with the USAF. But, if the US were to back off, China would still have to occupy Taiwan, which would be quite hostile territory. Unlike Hong Kong, the Taiwanese are capable of defending themselves. An overwhelming force of Chinese soldiers occupying Taiwan might work in the short term, but China will have lost long term in terms of Global public opinion. I simply don't see any benefit for the Chinese to take Taiwan other than to scratch an itch.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Miscalculation may cause the evil empire to venture but will fail.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Using the word "retake" is misleading and completely following the CCP narrative that Taiwan is a "rebel province".

The historic reality is that Taiwan is the remanent of the Republic of China, which existed way before the CCP, and as such, Taiwan has never been under CCP control, and was the only part of the original Republic of China which was not invaded by the Communist Army.

It wouldn't be "retake", it would be an invasion to "TAKE" something that is not theirs.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Joe Biden will not stop them, maybe Japan will, but it will be hard

0 ( +1 / -1 )

HK was a walk in the park for them.

I lost all sympathy for those students as soon as stations were destroyed, roads and buildings were wrecked, and innocent people were killed. This sort of stuff may be tolerated in US, UK ans France, but East Asians don't look kindly on people who do this.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

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