On a more sensible note there have been many jobs changed or eradicated by technology , ask the buggy whip makers. There is far more angst and headlines over the threat of digital and AI because the jobs likely to be eliminated are middle class ones.
We as a world society as well as individual countries need to address how wealth is spread through society when the current method of paid work is no longer available as most manufacturing can be done by machines that labour 24/7 and progressively knowledge based jobs are also taken over. What will the mass of redundant people do, what will give worth and self respect to their existence?
I ask the question but don’t claim to know the solution?
The solution is very easy, taxing the machines, robots, AI models etc. After they have brought in the investment costs, an entrepreneurial risk amount as well as the intended profits, of course all those machines have to work 24/7 only for the society as a whole and all incoming amounts above have to be completely taxed away. Of course also the running costs for operating and energy and also for maintenance, repairs or replacements have to be subtracted before taxes. The other question What will the mass of redundant people do, what will give worth and self respect to their existence? that is not possible to answer in general and everyone affected has to find an answer individually.
Voted yes. Currently AI can’t really do the in person aspect of my job that makes me useful. But more and more I see colleagues rely on it over doing the work themselves. Such as creating speeches or talking points for presentations they just ChatGPT it. It’s kinda concerning look at them. Also in programming it’s becoming quite common to ask an AI to generate or check your code. It can’t make original stuff but it can get you what you want immediately or close to it. It takes a lot of busy work out of the equation but programming relies heavily on teamwork. If ai is checking they means teams are smaller and likely paid less making the market for said jobs smaller in the long run.
I voted no on this. I'm an English teacher. I do believe that there are some aspects of teaching that might be replaceable by AI, such as grammar rules, vocabulary. However, as an English teacher, there are many countries that speak English with their own colloquialisms, along with different generations using their own phrases and vocabulary that can't be replaced by AI. Another area not replaceable by AI is the student's feelings and meaning and intentions behind a certain kind of writing style.
At the same time, we have to be careful not to fall into arrogance that one's job is irreplaceable while embracing new technology to accompany teaching and education.
You actually don't need English (as a foreign language) teachers, even now, for older learners. There are apps that will teach you everything you need to know. However, even before AI, English teachers were not needed for anyone of high school age or older. If you are motivated you can do everything by yourself with regards to languages.
I taught myself Japanese. The only AI I used was a simple app called Anki to help me remember vocab. I got to N1 proficiency.
The key to everything is having a goal and consistently putting the work in on good days and bad.
I taught myself Japanese. The only AI I used was a simple app called Anki to help me remember vocab. I got to N1 proficiency.
Good for you but this "app" will not work for the majority of the people. Learning a new language (or anything new) with only an "app" and/or an algorithm will not be enough.
I don't think so. I've seen some good material produced by it, but its always flawed by the fact that it is unoriginal. I use it as a tool, but it's no where near sophisticated enough to replace an experienced and skilled human being.
However, I do think its a good idea, even in adulthood, to be flexible and to continue your professional development. You never know how things will be. I have done all I can to find out about AI and to use it for myself and to learn how clients use it. I'd rather be in a position in which I'm not completely naive to the thing that has the potential to reeplace me, even if I don't think its likely!
I had a career change at 33 that moved me into completely different territory, but I was ready for it because I put some work into preparing for it. Nobody owes me a job, but I've done well for myself by proving myself.
Good for you but this "app" will not work for the majority of the people. Learning a new language (or anything new) with only an "app" and/or an algorithm will not be enough.
That is what I am saying. AI is not needed to learn a language, nor are teachers once you get to a certain age. I was emphazing that I only used one super simple app to help me but it was not needed. A book or some memory cards would have done the job too.
Absolutely. AI is already taking more and more translation work and the possibility to make money as a translator is really getting worse. Recently I feel like I need to come up with a plan B.
Absolutely. AI is already taking more and more translation work and the possibility to make money as a translator is really getting worse. Recently I feel like I need to come up with a plan B.
I do translation too. Rates have been falling for years, but my own experience has been for my efficiency/mental exertion to improve in keeping with the improvements in AI and translation software. The net result has been my income per hour or hour of exertion has not really fallen. AI does the "prepare a draft" grunt work (which I always did with music on), and then you do the important, high concentration thing of editing and correcting it to produce the final text.
I suspect this will now change and that AI will actually cause my income to fall, just as the cost of living is ramping up. I do have a strong plan B, but am also happy to be 56 with my kids mostly grown up and three years left on my mortgage. I'm pleased AI did not appear when I was 36. I would have been screwed.
The only people presently safe are people doing physical work, plumbing, construction, landscaping, roof repairs, etc. Until the robots roll off the line anyway.
Same argument people made like 40 to 50 years ago when the "desktop" PCs became available... and when factory machinery became an option 140 years ago similar thing.
That AI will take your jobs, is a scary story people want to believe... the same job may not be there but jobs will be created.
By the way, the music playing robots already exist, so you are welcome to see them (probably you have already hear some "ai music")
For me personally… maybe not… but for today’s youth the situation is going to be much different. I don’t think there is any job that can’t at some point be replaced by AI.
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englisc aspyrgend
Voted no, I’m retired!
On a more sensible note there have been many jobs changed or eradicated by technology , ask the buggy whip makers. There is far more angst and headlines over the threat of digital and AI because the jobs likely to be eliminated are middle class ones.
We as a world society as well as individual countries need to address how wealth is spread through society when the current method of paid work is no longer available as most manufacturing can be done by machines that labour 24/7 and progressively knowledge based jobs are also taken over. What will the mass of redundant people do, what will give worth and self respect to their existence?
I ask the question but don’t claim to know the solution?
Sven Asai
The solution is very easy, taxing the machines, robots, AI models etc. After they have brought in the investment costs, an entrepreneurial risk amount as well as the intended profits, of course all those machines have to work 24/7 only for the society as a whole and all incoming amounts above have to be completely taxed away. Of course also the running costs for operating and energy and also for maintenance, repairs or replacements have to be subtracted before taxes. The other question What will the mass of redundant people do, what will give worth and self respect to their existence? that is not possible to answer in general and everyone affected has to find an answer individually.
stormcrow
No, not yet, but the next generation is questionable.
GillislowTier
Voted yes. Currently AI can’t really do the in person aspect of my job that makes me useful. But more and more I see colleagues rely on it over doing the work themselves. Such as creating speeches or talking points for presentations they just ChatGPT it. It’s kinda concerning look at them. Also in programming it’s becoming quite common to ask an AI to generate or check your code. It can’t make original stuff but it can get you what you want immediately or close to it. It takes a lot of busy work out of the equation but programming relies heavily on teamwork. If ai is checking they means teams are smaller and likely paid less making the market for said jobs smaller in the long run.
Chico3
I voted no on this. I'm an English teacher. I do believe that there are some aspects of teaching that might be replaceable by AI, such as grammar rules, vocabulary. However, as an English teacher, there are many countries that speak English with their own colloquialisms, along with different generations using their own phrases and vocabulary that can't be replaced by AI. Another area not replaceable by AI is the student's feelings and meaning and intentions behind a certain kind of writing style.
At the same time, we have to be careful not to fall into arrogance that one's job is irreplaceable while embracing new technology to accompany teaching and education.
nickybutt
You actually don't need English (as a foreign language) teachers, even now, for older learners. There are apps that will teach you everything you need to know. However, even before AI, English teachers were not needed for anyone of high school age or older. If you are motivated you can do everything by yourself with regards to languages.
I taught myself Japanese. The only AI I used was a simple app called Anki to help me remember vocab. I got to N1 proficiency.
The key to everything is having a goal and consistently putting the work in on good days and bad.
Wasabi
Good for you but this "app" will not work for the majority of the people. Learning a new language (or anything new) with only an "app" and/or an algorithm will not be enough.
Overfiend
It's impressive what AI can do but it is far from being able to replace talented software engineers.
Negative Nancy
I don't think so. I've seen some good material produced by it, but its always flawed by the fact that it is unoriginal. I use it as a tool, but it's no where near sophisticated enough to replace an experienced and skilled human being.
However, I do think its a good idea, even in adulthood, to be flexible and to continue your professional development. You never know how things will be. I have done all I can to find out about AI and to use it for myself and to learn how clients use it. I'd rather be in a position in which I'm not completely naive to the thing that has the potential to reeplace me, even if I don't think its likely!
I had a career change at 33 that moved me into completely different territory, but I was ready for it because I put some work into preparing for it. Nobody owes me a job, but I've done well for myself by proving myself.
nickybutt
That is what I am saying. AI is not needed to learn a language, nor are teachers once you get to a certain age. I was emphazing that I only used one super simple app to help me but it was not needed. A book or some memory cards would have done the job too.
grund
Absolutely. AI is already taking more and more translation work and the possibility to make money as a translator is really getting worse. Recently I feel like I need to come up with a plan B.
NZ
not really.
kohakuebisu
I do translation too. Rates have been falling for years, but my own experience has been for my efficiency/mental exertion to improve in keeping with the improvements in AI and translation software. The net result has been my income per hour or hour of exertion has not really fallen. AI does the "prepare a draft" grunt work (which I always did with music on), and then you do the important, high concentration thing of editing and correcting it to produce the final text.
I suspect this will now change and that AI will actually cause my income to fall, just as the cost of living is ramping up. I do have a strong plan B, but am also happy to be 56 with my kids mostly grown up and three years left on my mortgage. I'm pleased AI did not appear when I was 36. I would have been screwed.
bass4funk
Not me. It is not my job, and for what I do, AI will never take it over, so no worries here
wallace
AI is being used for repairing musical instruments and replacing the musicians who play them.
bass4funk
Scary, I wouldn't feel comfortable with that, thank the lord we won't be seeing that.
SomeWeeb
The only people presently safe are people doing physical work, plumbing, construction, landscaping, roof repairs, etc. Until the robots roll off the line anyway.
Cephus
If AI replaces any employee, that means he/she didn't qualify for that job in the first place
SomeWeeb
Nobody ever qualifies for anything, most modern jobs are made up bs. If an AI can take them, most people's lives would be better.
Daniel Neagari
Same argument people made like 40 to 50 years ago when the "desktop" PCs became available... and when factory machinery became an option 140 years ago similar thing.
That AI will take your jobs, is a scary story people want to believe... the same job may not be there but jobs will be created.
By the way, the music playing robots already exist, so you are welcome to see them (probably you have already hear some "ai music")
KnightsOfCydonia
Ai will replace most white collar jobs as they doesn't require any degree of critical thinking.
Ai and robots/autonomous vehicles will come for the rest.
However governments will lose an important source of revenue which is income tax, since corporate taxes have been cut to the bone.
I don't foresee any redistribution of wealth by these corporations, willingly anyway.
What does this mean for those that cannot afford to ride out this transition, besides extreme poverty?
GuruMick
I,m old....I remember when "The Spinning Jenny " was invented in UK...might have been a Scottish inventor.
Ushered in the start of the Industrial Revolution.
Created famine in India though.
Looks like AI will be another "industrial revolution " moment....but we will survive.
SaikoPhysco
No... I'm in Japan and Japan woefully lags in AI technology. I love my antiquated Galapagos life in Japan.
Haaa Nemui
For me personally… maybe not… but for today’s youth the situation is going to be much different. I don’t think there is any job that can’t at some point be replaced by AI.