Also we have supplies located in various places on various floors through out the house. In addition, we have a kersone stove, portable gas table and fuel, soft portable pet carry cases and cages, bottled water, pouch food (checked every 6 months) lasting over 3 days, chemical toilets, a well stocked larder and fridge, Also a large tent, sleeping bags, medical supplies etc.
But going through the above list, I realise we need to buy an axe or two just in case.
I suppose it would make sense to have some water, but my assumption is in a true catastrophe it will be every person for themselves and stockpiles won't save you.
I suppose it would make sense to have some water, but my assumption is in a true catastrophe it will be every person for themselves and stockpiles won't save you.
There are modern houses in Suzu and Wajima that have been turned upside down internally, that's what moving up and down 1.5m does to your furniture and stuff, but barely have a scratch on them. They are still standing, 100% structurally safe, and probably look completely normal. Most modern houses are earthquakeproof. The only issues are the internal mess and the water and electricity being off. Their owners can sleep in their own beds and don't have to go to the centers. Their fridge might be horizontal and their crockery may be smashed, but any bag of rice they have will still be rice. Any cup noodles they have will still be cup noodles. The little gas cooker they use for nabe will still work if they have any gas cassettes and water to heat. Veggies like daikon, onions etc. will still be okay. Their sewer or septic tank will likely still work if they can get a bucket of water, rain out of drainpipe will do, to flush the toilet.
Our ESK (Emergency Survival Kit) is something that was a result of the wildfires we experience here in Southern California. Because we are subjected to Daylight Savings (where we have to change our clocks twice a year), we use that as a reminder to check our ESK's and batteries (we change the batteries, actually, even if they're still good) in our smoke and carbon monoxide detectors. We also check our home insurance policy each year (at tax time) as we learned that many of the homes that were lost in previous wildfires (and other disasters) the insurance coverage wasn't enough.
Storing food supplies for a quake can't be easy for folk in tiny apartments. A lack of decent painkillers may also be a problem.
I would encourage people to scan family photos and maintain back-ups of all their data. A fire extinguisher may be useful. Also a pair of cut-resistant gloves, a whistle, a small torch and something that can break a window. In a car you may also need to keep something that can break a window (especially in EVs). Consider ID bracelets/inscribed watches, especially for small children. And hide a decent amount of cash somewhere, preferably in something water- and fireproof.
Sure do. Backpack with bottle of Johnnie Walker, 8 packs of beef jerky, 3 cans of pork and beans, can of bread, Super Toolman, flashlight, battery powered charger for phone and laptop, and ear plugs to drown out the wife.
Since moving to Japan, my emergency kit is very different from the one I put together in Oregon, USA. Heavy on water, food, first aid, etc. Not so heavy on stuff to deal with predatory humans...
I have had a disaster kit / evacuation kit since I served in the Army. It was recommended to always have one on hand, and I always have. It includes shelter, sleeping gear, change of clothes, cooking gear, food, water, life straw, solar re-charger for batteries, torch and lantern, trenching tool, hand axe, medical kit and more all in a backpack. I have additional supplies with that backpack so depending on the amount of time i have to evacuate will depend on if i take only the backpack or can take additional supplies. In the event of disaster where my home is ok I will have enough supplies to last a few weeks.
Life is a crap shoot, but if I can do a few small things to put the odds of survival a little more in my favor, why wouldnt I do that? It is an insurance policy, and all adults will have some form of insurance through their lifetimes. This is just one more. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
Absolutely. I have a peculiar penchant for moving to countries fraught with natural disasters (not on purpose) and so have learned to build myself an emergency kit as soon as I get settled.
Yes, I have a two kits. I have two cases of 30 Pepsi Max and two big bags of choof. One kit is in my boot of my car and the other in my survival lock up at home.
Good thing I have some camping gear that helps during these situations. I carry a portable battery with approx 1000w and a 200w solar. I also have a Dometic cooler fridge that can run off of gas which I have a stock pile of that I bought before these outrageous prices. Iwatani gas cooker and a boiling pot is also a must!
There is no need for an ESK to sustain the users for long time, having what is necessary to survive for a few days can be the difference between having a most miserable time or just a bad one, in some circumstances it can even be the difference between life or death, for the person that prepared it or someone else close by.
I answered yes, as I do have a bag somewhere down under my bed, but I haven't checked it for years, and having read some of the replies here I realize that no would have been a more appropriate answer!
Some of you peeps are just amazing!
Now, I need to check what's in the bag tomorrow... inkan, bank book, spare car keys, whistle, light, chocolate, matches, candles, tomato juice?
Yes, I made several of them stashed in different places, i.e. our home, car, my workplace and I have emergency items that I included in my daily backpack. I also made sure to have electronic and photocopies of essential documents.
There is no expert that say ESK need to support survival for long periods of time. Repeating the claim without the required reference means there it is still an unsupported claim.
No to be honest. The reason is, but not an excuse, when you live in a shoebox apartment, every space and corner is precious. So those things are unfortunatelly on my button list.
I agree 100% that every apartment should have 1 big survival kit by default.
Do you have evidence of ant expert saying an ESK is not needed to support survival for long periods of time?
My claim is that there is no expert that says ESK need to support survival for long periods of time.
That means that as long as you don't provide a reference that claim is still valid and clearly you have been unable to refute it.
When the claim is that you offered no evidence then the one that needs that evidence to refute it is you, as long as no evidence of the original claim is offered that still means my claim is corrrect.
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Yes. We keep it in the car.
Also we have supplies located in various places on various floors through out the house. In addition, we have a kersone stove, portable gas table and fuel, soft portable pet carry cases and cages, bottled water, pouch food (checked every 6 months) lasting over 3 days, chemical toilets, a well stocked larder and fridge, Also a large tent, sleeping bags, medical supplies etc.
But going through the above list, I realise we need to buy an axe or two just in case.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I suppose it would make sense to have some water, but my assumption is in a true catastrophe it will be every person for themselves and stockpiles won't save you.
John-San
Yes, it call a iPhone.
bass4funk
Being from California it’s something of a must in our family. So I’m good and ready and have the things I need
kohakuebisu
There are modern houses in Suzu and Wajima that have been turned upside down internally, that's what moving up and down 1.5m does to your furniture and stuff, but barely have a scratch on them. They are still standing, 100% structurally safe, and probably look completely normal. Most modern houses are earthquakeproof. The only issues are the internal mess and the water and electricity being off. Their owners can sleep in their own beds and don't have to go to the centers. Their fridge might be horizontal and their crockery may be smashed, but any bag of rice they have will still be rice. Any cup noodles they have will still be cup noodles. The little gas cooker they use for nabe will still work if they have any gas cassettes and water to heat. Veggies like daikon, onions etc. will still be okay. Their sewer or septic tank will likely still work if they can get a bucket of water, rain out of drainpipe will do, to flush the toilet.
Redemption
No. I will rely on kind neighbors and the JP government.
Rob-3
Our ESK (Emergency Survival Kit) is something that was a result of the wildfires we experience here in Southern California. Because we are subjected to Daylight Savings (where we have to change our clocks twice a year), we use that as a reminder to check our ESK's and batteries (we change the batteries, actually, even if they're still good) in our smoke and carbon monoxide detectors. We also check our home insurance policy each year (at tax time) as we learned that many of the homes that were lost in previous wildfires (and other disasters) the insurance coverage wasn't enough.
GBR48
Storing food supplies for a quake can't be easy for folk in tiny apartments. A lack of decent painkillers may also be a problem.
I would encourage people to scan family photos and maintain back-ups of all their data. A fire extinguisher may be useful. Also a pair of cut-resistant gloves, a whistle, a small torch and something that can break a window. In a car you may also need to keep something that can break a window (especially in EVs). Consider ID bracelets/inscribed watches, especially for small children. And hide a decent amount of cash somewhere, preferably in something water- and fireproof.
kyushubill
Sure do. Backpack with bottle of Johnnie Walker, 8 packs of beef jerky, 3 cans of pork and beans, can of bread, Super Toolman, flashlight, battery powered charger for phone and laptop, and ear plugs to drown out the wife.
David K Anderson
Since moving to Japan, my emergency kit is very different from the one I put together in Oregon, USA. Heavy on water, food, first aid, etc. Not so heavy on stuff to deal with predatory humans...
Peter14
I have had a disaster kit / evacuation kit since I served in the Army. It was recommended to always have one on hand, and I always have. It includes shelter, sleeping gear, change of clothes, cooking gear, food, water, life straw, solar re-charger for batteries, torch and lantern, trenching tool, hand axe, medical kit and more all in a backpack. I have additional supplies with that backpack so depending on the amount of time i have to evacuate will depend on if i take only the backpack or can take additional supplies. In the event of disaster where my home is ok I will have enough supplies to last a few weeks.
Life is a crap shoot, but if I can do a few small things to put the odds of survival a little more in my favor, why wouldnt I do that? It is an insurance policy, and all adults will have some form of insurance through their lifetimes. This is just one more. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
purple_depressed_bacon
Absolutely. I have a peculiar penchant for moving to countries fraught with natural disasters (not on purpose) and so have learned to build myself an emergency kit as soon as I get settled.
John-San
Yes, I have a two kits. I have two cases of 30 Pepsi Max and two big bags of choof. One kit is in my boot of my car and the other in my survival lock up at home.
WA4TKG
That’s hysterical Redemption :)
WA4TKG
Nope, an early death is my retirement plan.
SDCA
Good thing I have some camping gear that helps during these situations. I carry a portable battery with approx 1000w and a 200w solar. I also have a Dometic cooler fridge that can run off of gas which I have a stock pile of that I bought before these outrageous prices. Iwatani gas cooker and a boiling pot is also a must!
virusrex
There is no need for an ESK to sustain the users for long time, having what is necessary to survive for a few days can be the difference between having a most miserable time or just a bad one, in some circumstances it can even be the difference between life or death, for the person that prepared it or someone else close by.
nandakandamanda
I answered yes, as I do have a bag somewhere down under my bed, but I haven't checked it for years, and having read some of the replies here I realize that no would have been a more appropriate answer!
Some of you peeps are just amazing!
Now, I need to check what's in the bag tomorrow... inkan, bank book, spare car keys, whistle, light, chocolate, matches, candles, tomato juice?
zibala
For those living in Japan, having an emergency survival kit that can last a long time is imperative.
Most should have learned from 3/11.
Toshihiro
Yes, I made several of them stashed in different places, i.e. our home, car, my workplace and I have emergency items that I included in my daily backpack. I also made sure to have electronic and photocopies of essential documents.
gcFd1
Of course there is, as proved by recent events.
virusrex
Making baseless claims is not enough to refute the text you quote. There is no expert that say ESK need to support survival for long periods of time.
gcFd1
This is a definite. As advised by experts.
virusrex
There is no expert that say ESK need to support survival for long periods of time. Repeating the claim without the required reference means there it is still an unsupported claim.
DanteKH
No to be honest. The reason is, but not an excuse, when you live in a shoebox apartment, every space and corner is precious. So those things are unfortunatelly on my button list.
I agree 100% that every apartment should have 1 big survival kit by default.
gcFd1
Do you have evidence of ant expert saying an ESK is not needed to support survival for long periods of time?
Let's see your source.
virusrex
My claim is that there is no expert that says ESK need to support survival for long periods of time.
That means that as long as you don't provide a reference that claim is still valid and clearly you have been unable to refute it.
When the claim is that you offered no evidence then the one that needs that evidence to refute it is you, as long as no evidence of the original claim is offered that still means my claim is corrrect.
gcFd1
To me, at least 3 days is a long period of time.
An ESK is needed for that period.
I am correct, right?
gcFd1
"a few days"--that means less than one week
You think no expert says an ESK is needed for longer than that?
Of course they recommend having an ESK that lasts longer than just "a few days".