The results from this poll need to be hand delivered to EVERY politician with a note attached to it that says, "If you vote for this increase, you have voted to retire." The do-good, big spenders have to be removed from office by the electorate. The Japanese children can't afford to pay the debt.
I understand that Japan's aging society makes it very difficult to keep the tax as low as it was. We may have no choice but to rise the tax. But, I think the government has something they have to do before rising the tax. Isn't it impossible to downsize and economize the budget any more? so I'll vote No at this time.
Raising taxes in SOME areas is a normal thing to do. As Poor Richard said. The only things that are certain in life are "Death and Taxes".
I'm just guessing here but I'll willing to speculate that people are probably uncomfortable with the lack of transparency here in Japan. Especially with so many corrupt politicians and companies.
The other thing is worry about is common products such as food and everyday necessities. The quality of life will go down. Furthermore, I think companies that see an increase in taxes on their products will cut jobs and outsource more jobs to China. China wins!!!
No matter what, I believe you have to tax the RICH much much more. Place more tax on luxury goods. Pearls, diamonds, and expensive handbags. Such things are not necessities and the tax would targeted at those who bleed the country to death to begin with.
You aren't going to get a baby boom if things are already too expensive to begin with.
I thought they wanted to get the economy rolling by getting the population to spend more, sales tax seems to defeat that purpose. Otherwise I think KobeGrandad has the right idea.
I'm with Zichi! Sales tax only makes the poor get poorer. The tax increases should be for high income earners. People complain about paying 22-25% basic income tax in Australia with a sliding scale of sales tax, but in Japan, with the city taxes, income tax, health insurance and the proposed sales tax increase I am paying nearly 45% of my salary in government fees. And, what do I get for it? Bugger all! Very few parks that are barely maintained, roads that have no footpaths, NO welfare, minimal health care. It's a bloody rip off!
I'm also with zichi and the others - consumption tax is disproportionately more burdensome on the poor.
First of all cut all unnecessary spending and corruption (coast guards in the Antarctic, jobs for the boys), reform the pension system so that everyone is covered by the same scheme and it doesn't matter who your employer is, cut the golden handshakes and free welfare rides for those who can afford not to work, stop building roads with more bears than cars on them, and then if there still isn't enough money, raise consumption tax on tobacco, booze and luxury items, and raise higher levels of income tax and death tax.
A tax on basic foodstuffs is a complete non-starter.
Something needs to be done to overcome the shortfall, (reduce Govt waste first) but raising taxes right now is mindless, the economy will slow further producing less revenue than now.
Typical though , brain dead politicians making dumb decisions.
Anyone thinking about future generations and how they would have to cope with a bankrupt Japan caused by its debt becoming unsustainable.
The maximum total taxes of people earning less than 20 million should be 20%, and when more is paid, should receive rebates. The total maximum taxes paid by anyone should be 30%. The total maximum taxes paid by business should be 25%. Sales tax should be reduced to 3%.
That's a complete fantasy. To pay for that Japan would need to heavily slash welfare and health care spending, even if other budgets were reduced too.
Increased sales tax will further depress spending, resuling in the loss of more jobs, resulting in greater burden on the state, resuling in more taxes. Got it?!!
"All tax is theft. Just say "no" to taxes." This is Libertarian nonsense based in a profound lack of realistic thinking. It is like Anarchy with Jesus instead of the red A and circle logo. A I have mine, to hell with you world view that can only work in a society like the old west in the 1800's with a massively reduced population.
So reality check. Japan is a crowded small nation of aging people. No taxes, no social programs and you have chaos, famine, death and downstream social collapse.
Your Tea Party Libertarianism is flawed and unrealistic enough for America, makes absolutely ZERO sense for Japan.
First, I am opposed to ANY tax increase, no matter who it is a burden on. Taxing a population is nothing more than robbing their hard earned money. Japan needs a national hero like Grover Norquist to force politicians to sign a "No Tax" pledge.
But, if a tax must be raised, we must take care to not tax the job creators. This is important to get the economy going. A tax that burdens the middle or lower classes more is preferable. Job creators and high net worth individuals make the economy work, and we should not punish them for their success.
Before raising anything, first, they need to cut all the unnecessary spending...just look around you now: do you see all the unnecessary public works projects that always seems to start around January-March time frame? That's because all these govt agencies are trying to use up their budgets. CUTS need to come before any raises, and this includes head-count reductions at both Nagatacho and Kasumigaseki.
The results from this poll need to be hand delivered to EVERY politician with a note attached to it that says, "If you vote for this increase, you have voted to retire.
They should legalized gambling in some areas and allow casinos....short term, govt could make a ton of cash....but in the long run society will slowly go to hell.
poor people in japan is the result of their demise. u could tell the rich from the poor on here. im rich, the hell with your taxes. im on the winning team. i worked hard. i dreamed big. and i never gave up. why should i be punished for the lazy, drunk, drugy, who lack ambition, drive, and dreams . u reap what u soe.
This was a stupid tax to begin with because it adds to the burden of the poorest segment of society. Drop the tax on food and rents and I might support it.
A simple history lesson will tell you that raising taxes has never fixed anything. this is delusional. J gov needs to go! We need another Ron Paul over here!
Raise it, but at the same time, require elderly to pay their way more with regard to healthcare and the like. It's a two-way street. So far, the elderly have been getting a free ride.
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noriyosan73
The results from this poll need to be hand delivered to EVERY politician with a note attached to it that says, "If you vote for this increase, you have voted to retire." The do-good, big spenders have to be removed from office by the electorate. The Japanese children can't afford to pay the debt.
gogogo
Who would vote yes to this? It's the governments own fault.
kaketama
I understand that Japan's aging society makes it very difficult to keep the tax as low as it was. We may have no choice but to rise the tax. But, I think the government has something they have to do before rising the tax. Isn't it impossible to downsize and economize the budget any more? so I'll vote No at this time.
NetNinja
Raising taxes in SOME areas is a normal thing to do. As Poor Richard said. The only things that are certain in life are "Death and Taxes".
I'm just guessing here but I'll willing to speculate that people are probably uncomfortable with the lack of transparency here in Japan. Especially with so many corrupt politicians and companies.
The other thing is worry about is common products such as food and everyday necessities. The quality of life will go down. Furthermore, I think companies that see an increase in taxes on their products will cut jobs and outsource more jobs to China. China wins!!!
No matter what, I believe you have to tax the RICH much much more. Place more tax on luxury goods. Pearls, diamonds, and expensive handbags. Such things are not necessities and the tax would targeted at those who bleed the country to death to begin with.
You aren't going to get a baby boom if things are already too expensive to begin with.
KobeGrandad
Why not have sliding scale like in many EU countries? In UK food and other things deemed essentials are taxed at zero percent.
SquidBert
I thought they wanted to get the economy rolling by getting the population to spend more, sales tax seems to defeat that purpose. Otherwise I think KobeGrandad has the right idea.
Disillusioned
I'm with Zichi! Sales tax only makes the poor get poorer. The tax increases should be for high income earners. People complain about paying 22-25% basic income tax in Australia with a sliding scale of sales tax, but in Japan, with the city taxes, income tax, health insurance and the proposed sales tax increase I am paying nearly 45% of my salary in government fees. And, what do I get for it? Bugger all! Very few parks that are barely maintained, roads that have no footpaths, NO welfare, minimal health care. It's a bloody rip off!
cleo
I'm also with zichi and the others - consumption tax is disproportionately more burdensome on the poor.
First of all cut all unnecessary spending and corruption (coast guards in the Antarctic, jobs for the boys), reform the pension system so that everyone is covered by the same scheme and it doesn't matter who your employer is, cut the golden handshakes and free welfare rides for those who can afford not to work, stop building roads with more bears than cars on them, and then if there still isn't enough money, raise consumption tax on tobacco, booze and luxury items, and raise higher levels of income tax and death tax.
A tax on basic foodstuffs is a complete non-starter.
smithinjapan
I don't support it whatsoever until unnecessary spending is reigned in.
Sarcasm321
Absolutely not! I know where 99.9% of any new taxation would go: to feed the ever growing list of gravy train riders.
nath
Increase tax on luxury goods, gambling like boat races, pachinko and others. Increase tax on those who earn millions and billions of money.
But please, don't raise taxes on basic essential goods.
ExportExpert
Something needs to be done to overcome the shortfall, (reduce Govt waste first) but raising taxes right now is mindless, the economy will slow further producing less revenue than now.
Typical though , brain dead politicians making dumb decisions.
Shumatsu_Samurai
Anyone thinking about future generations and how they would have to cope with a bankrupt Japan caused by its debt becoming unsustainable.
That's a complete fantasy. To pay for that Japan would need to heavily slash welfare and health care spending, even if other budgets were reduced too.
nath
Hey booze should not be taxed as a luxury item. In this country it should be considered necessary.
tkoind2
Increased sales tax will further depress spending, resuling in the loss of more jobs, resulting in greater burden on the state, resuling in more taxes. Got it?!!
gaijinfo
All tax is theft. Just say "no" to taxes.
tkoind2
"All tax is theft. Just say "no" to taxes." This is Libertarian nonsense based in a profound lack of realistic thinking. It is like Anarchy with Jesus instead of the red A and circle logo. A I have mine, to hell with you world view that can only work in a society like the old west in the 1800's with a massively reduced population.
So reality check. Japan is a crowded small nation of aging people. No taxes, no social programs and you have chaos, famine, death and downstream social collapse.
Your Tea Party Libertarianism is flawed and unrealistic enough for America, makes absolutely ZERO sense for Japan.
j4p4nFTW
First, I am opposed to ANY tax increase, no matter who it is a burden on. Taxing a population is nothing more than robbing their hard earned money. Japan needs a national hero like Grover Norquist to force politicians to sign a "No Tax" pledge.
But, if a tax must be raised, we must take care to not tax the job creators. This is important to get the economy going. A tax that burdens the middle or lower classes more is preferable. Job creators and high net worth individuals make the economy work, and we should not punish them for their success.
Serrano
After I voted no, I saw the vote was even at 52 votes yes and 52 votes no. So half of JT voters support raising the consumption tax. Incredible...
LouReed
This will lower consumer spending actually reduce revenue and further stifle an already anemic economy.
cornbread1
Before raising anything, first, they need to cut all the unnecessary spending...just look around you now: do you see all the unnecessary public works projects that always seems to start around January-March time frame? That's because all these govt agencies are trying to use up their budgets. CUTS need to come before any raises, and this includes head-count reductions at both Nagatacho and Kasumigaseki.
DentShop
Yet half the respondents voted "yes"
See above
Not working north of the Rio Grande
Geoff Gillespie
Gosh, you're smart, aren't you? I wish I was big and grown up and clever like you are....
cactusJack
They should legalized gambling in some areas and allow casinos....short term, govt could make a ton of cash....but in the long run society will slowly go to hell.
naruhodo1
poor people in japan is the result of their demise. u could tell the rich from the poor on here. im rich, the hell with your taxes. im on the winning team. i worked hard. i dreamed big. and i never gave up. why should i be punished for the lazy, drunk, drugy, who lack ambition, drive, and dreams . u reap what u soe.
nath
1930s, America again.. everyone knows that you do not raise taxes in a deflating economy....
Virtuoso
This was a stupid tax to begin with because it adds to the burden of the poorest segment of society. Drop the tax on food and rents and I might support it.
nisegaijin
And some people actually said yes.... amazing.
A simple history lesson will tell you that raising taxes has never fixed anything. this is delusional. J gov needs to go! We need another Ron Paul over here!
Nessie
Raise it, but at the same time, require elderly to pay their way more with regard to healthcare and the like. It's a two-way street. So far, the elderly have been getting a free ride.
nath
A vehement no from me. The Japanese government needs an arbiter. Too much profiteering off the good citizens (and visitors) of Japan.