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Yes, they have the means, the opportunity, and the motive to attack Japan with nukes so it's quickly becoming an existential threat

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No it's a convenient buffer state supported by the Chinese to deter American / Western European influence. As a buffer state it's allowed to act in a way that it feels strong knowing it will be protected by China. This similar to Japan and the US where Japan has, until recently, maintained its 'Peaceful Nation' persona knowing the US will back Japan if conflict would arise.

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the most dangerous thing about NK is how dumb they are.

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Please. The powers that be know if N Korea does indeed "attack" Japanese/S Korean soil, then Pyongyang will be wiped off the face of the earth in mere minutes. Would you risk instant death just to be a provocative dick? Or would you rather continue to live a lavish lifestyle while conveniently able to ignore the masses of starving people you call countrymen?

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While the North Korea seems to be led by idiots, lauching rockets into the ocean, death row etc., they do not pose a threat to anyone but themselves and the nature. The only ones actually saying that North Korea is a threat to it's neighbours are the military-hysteria supporters, hoping that under such loud shouts as "PROTECT US FROM THEM" people will allow their inhumane behaviour and researches with the only aim at wealth and destruction continue. Those calling for increased militaries, weapons of even more massive destruction, are the real threat to humanity.

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Daniel Naumoff,

SPOT ON!

Those calling for increased militaries, weapons of even more massive destruction, are the real threat to humanity.

There is no threat, anywhere in the world today, that could not be handled with communication and understanding. It's an old forgotten art that they used to call Diplomacy.

How about reviving it?

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

Real threat doesn't mean a 'direct' one so yes, I think they do. Although they would probably not strike first (knowing it would mean NK's end) they would certainly not go quietly should anyone try to remove Kim Jung Un and/or NK's nuclear capabilities.

If so, they would certainly retaliate, hit/kill as many ppl as they could. SK and Japan would then be obvious targets, and desperate ppl do desperate things so it wouldn't be pretty.

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I don't believe NK spoiled dictator would be that stupid to start a conflict. He's probably just like's seeing CNN reporting about his new toys (missiles)..

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"the most dangerous thing about NK is how dumb they are."

No. The most dangerous thing is when a people think that those of a different view are "dumb".

THAT is what causes war.

With that said, NK is a threat to Japan as long as the US is present in Japan.

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What really matters is how willing is President Trump or Prime Minister Abe to fully attack and turn NK into a parking if Japan or SK is hit. If NK wanted to run the border with its troops, it may be able to capture Seoul, which leads back to the first question. The point that NK is a threat as long as the US is present in Japan is isolationism. The USA needs to close some of its military operations because they are WWII facilities. Otherwise, Japan will be spending all its resources on the military.

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By giving a notion a name, for instance "isolationaism", what is being attempted is to somehow discredit the notion by merely describing it for what it is perceived to be. A mere description, especially if the description is misleading and erroneous, does not in any manner address what the notion brought up.

NK wishes to be perceived as "dangerous" and a force to be reckoned with..rather than the alternative, "weak" and inconsequential....in that sense, it has succeeded. To call their actions "Dumb" is to not understand the reasoning behind them, and actually reveals the ignorance of the speaker rather than the rationale of the NK leader.

Is NK a threat to Japan?

Well, first answer the following;

What is the relationship between NK and the US? What is the relationship between the US and Japan? What is the relationship between the NK and Japan?

Seems to me, if NK and the US don't get along....and the US and Japan do, then that increases tension between NK and Japan, would you not agree? (especially if the US has a presence in Japan)

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As @dcog put it:

Yes, they have the means, the opportunity, and the motive to attack Japan with nukes so it's quickly becoming an existential threat

This is 'defense'-thinking and underscores the bottom line. It is shored up by occurrence of missile tests in Japan's direction, not to mention abductions of Japanese people which have been tacitly admitted by North Korea over the years. Whether any of us empathise with this or not is beside the point, as public authorities (like them or not) still have a responsibility for protecting the community.

Thinking about how dumb (or not) dictators are and what motives are (or are not) remain pure speculation.

Or consider the same question about whether North Korea is a real threat to Seoul which is just down river from North Korea, rather than just Japan. The threats are far more than just apparent there and always have been considered such.

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@inkochi,

You are entirely correct.

When one attempts to ascertain the motives behind anothers actions, particularly when no motive has been made explicit, then they must remain speculation. Speculation however does not mean that reason is behind the conclusions, or that the conclusions are false, for all countries must need engage in such "speculation" every single day...that is what most often brings peace (or war).

For please note, how easily the claim is reversed...is it not only your speculation that for another to attempt to ascertain "...what motives are (or are not)..." is merely speculation?

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Speculation or not, Kim had his half brother whacked in public at an international airport. North Korea has kidnapped foreigners and taken them back to North Korea.

These actions make me think we will never fully understand the motives of North Korea as it is hard or impossible to understand the motives of madmen.

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Sorry..typo in my previous post.

I meant to say, " Speculation however does not mean that reason is NOT behind the conclusions, or that the conclusions are false..."

I too do not understand the motives behind what NK is doing....but underestimating NK and thinking them "mad" seems to me to be a grave error, and underestimating a potential enemy cab be fatal.

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One can think them "mad" and still not underestimate them. I think they are not necessarily mutually exclusive

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I might have said no under the previous leader, but porky pig here is bat-sh*t crazy in my opinion. His behavior is erratic at best, he doesn't seem to grasp the scope of his actions on the international arena, and he's falling in love with his own image- not to mention the fact that he's executed both his uncle and brother- the latter being in a foreign country- so this shows you that he has no grasp of the consequences of his actions. He is extremely dangerous.

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"I might have said no under the previous leader, but porky pig here is crazy in my opinion. His behavior is erratic at best, he doesn't seem to grasp the scope of his actions on the international arena, and he's falling in love with his own image- not to mention the fact that he's executed both his uncle and brother- the latter being in a foreign country- so this shows you that he has no grasp of the consequences of his actions. He is extremely dangerous."

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Seems to me, if NK and the US don't get along....and the US and Japan do, then that increases tension between NK and Japan, would you not agree? (especially if the US has a presence in Japan) Brilliant! Seems to the world, except China, that it would be easier if the USA would just leave the area and let it and NK control all of the area. However, this time the result is nuclear destruction because NK likes fireworks. Apparently, NK leaders and their puppet never learned that the earth is round and its chosen few cannot live in underground shelters until it "all blows over." The build-up in SK is for a reason. Philosophical discussion will not stop the NK dictator, Truman was right. It won't take much to convince the USA that a pre-emptive strike on NK is appropriate. "W" did it, and with nuclear attack.

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The reason I voted to "I'm not sure" is because if N Korea uses weapons of mass destruction such as missles or strategically attacks to Japan, N Korea itself will incur heavy damages on its economic or will lead to rebellion by its citizen, which means its current political power will be collapsed, though weapons themselves might be threat not only to Japan but other countries. So, in my perspective, I think that N Korea doesn't set foot in the worst decision, lead to war.

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"However, this time the result is nuclear destruction because NK likes fireworks. "

Really?

Do you reasonably believe that NK "likes fireworks"? Unless you hold that NK's leadership is irrational, then I can see your conclusion being plausible....but what evidence do you have for this?

That you have failed to consider that Rational Irrationality, in the Game theoretical sense, is at work here reveals more of your misunderstanding of the situation rather than NK's leaderships actual irrationality.

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As a country that initiates wars and has the most advanced weaponry in the world then I would have to put the US at the top o the list.North Korea has been bombed and spyed on by the US despite being of no threat. G W Bush called it 'evil' along with Iran and Iraq. Iraq was invaded and H R Clinton had a plan to do the same to Iran had she become president. Massive war games with S Korea and the US just hours from North Korea certainly do not instil a sense of security in the North Koreans thus the Kim dynasty continues.....

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@Kurisupiso,

Agreed.

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North Korea poses a threat to Japan's economy by using technology to spy and steal. It is also a threat to Japan by the physical presence of its spies in the country and their nefarious activities.

It is not a nuclear threat. North Korea's leaders know that any attack on Japan would result in their complete annihilation. Their missile launches are just grandstanding for international attention.

Not surprisingly, the usual anti-U.S. crowd is here claiming that it would be possible to have an East Asia utopia if the Americans and their military would simply go home.

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No matter what North Korea does, (outside of direct military confrontation), Japan should have zero dialogue and zero business with them. Pay them absolutely no mind. They do not exist and never reply to their overtures. Forbid any Japanese citizen travel into N. Korea, and if they do, and something happens, sorry, they are on their own. They knew the consequences. Why? Because N. Korea is like a 2 year old child, one that cries for attention and if you give it them they'll cry for more. While you're out shopping and they want a candy bar.... here comes the temper tantrum if you say no. The rest of the world needs to just put a total black out of any news coming from them. If they launch a missile don't even report that they did. No communication and no news about them. Any country that trades with them should be penalized. N. Korea, for too long, has threatened its neighbors for no reason.... it needs to stop.

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A Utopia, as I understand the term, is the desired goal of Humanism. I am not a Humanist, and therefore would never claim that any action here on Earth, by man, would result in Utopia. With that said, it does seem reasonable to me to conclude that if Neighboring nations around Japan have issues with the US, and if the US would cease to have a presence in Japan, then those issues would no longer be a factor.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Currently I feel they are a slight danger to Japan but more so to South Korea. They did shell that South Korean island not so long ago, so they aren't too scared to have a go.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

With that said, it does seem reasonable to me to conclude that if Neighboring nations around Japan have issues with the US, and if the US would cease to have a presence in Japan, then those issues would no longer be a factor.

No, they have issues with the U.S. because our strong military presence helps to defend Japan and does not allow China, Korea and Russia to force resolutions to territorial disputes with Japan to greater advantage than they already have.

Japan has maintained strong economic, military and political ties with the U.S. since the end of the Occupation because it has been cost effective and politically expedient to do so.

Come up with a reasonable alternative to the U.S. military presence if you want to drastically change things; like a much stronger SDF from larger defense budgets and weapons acquisitions. Start with the needed amendments to the Constitution.

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@Patrick,

All valid questions that you raise...

Unfortunately, the life expectancy of my comments posted on here is about as long as the duration needed for a missile launched form NK to strike Japan. (not very long at all)

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Yes, and if you're living in Japan, be smart and flee ASAP. The recipe is almost ready: Putin + China + Trump + Brother Kim + Abe + South Korea = nuke war.

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