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If you've committed a crime take your lumps, do your time, and if you think you're really that worthless of a human being try living for the benefit of others. Work yourself to death and give everything you have to those who aren't so spiritually destitute. With very few exceptions suicide is the way of the coward, to afraid to face the long and painful road of recovery.

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Hm, this is religious question, for Chistians , suicide is sin, for all other religion, its not , so, asking this question is pointless, people will answer this question from the basis of what religion they are .

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Offing oneself is a selfish and sometimes a cowardice way out. Sadly, sometimes when one of these people decide to off themselves they take others with them.

Suicide for the sake of avoiding what someone has done is silly and useless.

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community service is better. There are several places here in Japan that could benefit from a good chain gang to clean up. If the taxpayers are going to provide food and board for prisoners, they should get their money worth. If the prisoner thinks he is above cleaning parks and performing other public services, let him off himself.

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It's all very tragic and sad, but suicide to "atone" for a crime is an escape, a cop out.

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I don't believe it is exclusively a religious question. Cultural considerations, a person's mental state etc. all come into play.

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Nenad Jovanović: Hm, this is religious question

Not everyone's sense of morality is based on a religion.

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@Nenad

Read up on the attitudes of Judaism, Islam and Hinduism to suicide.

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Really, this question as a poll!?! Let's look at the logic; Killing yourself as a method of self inflicted punishment resulting from self-judgement for a wrong done to or towards, or involving others......A party seems to be missing from this procedure, the wronged themselves. Outside of being 'damaged', the wronged have no part in the judgement or compensation of a suicidal action outside of the fact the wronged knows the infringing party 'will never do that again'. Most crimes are done out of selfishness and suicidal atonement only perpetuates their selfishness. It runs counter to the very idea of what a society is.

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Is suicide an honorable way to atone for a crime or scandal?

Honor stands the judgments and accusations, admits guilt when guilt and atones in the living world. That's honor.
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Suicide does not solve problems or pain! It only pushes the problems and pain onto other people. It is the most selfish act a person could ever make!

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It depends on the situation. And I wouldn't expect everybody to do the same either. To each their own, as long as beliefs don't involve forcing your way on others.

In any case, best thing is to live a life where this would not come up. Suicide is not something to be considered lightly. In the "old days", it was actually frowned upon to do it for trivial reasons.

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Sadly, the worst criminals don't see what they do as bad, just ask any banker or your local TEPCO Director, so they're unlikely to commit suicide. Instead it is good and honest people who commit relatively minor crimes who feel so awful that they commit suicide.

So, no, I don't think that suicide is an honorable course, mostly because it reduces the number of honorable people in the world by one. Its a catch-22, someone who has a sharp enough conscience that they feel the need to commit suicide shouldn't be doing it, and those who have no conscience wouldn't commit suicide.

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Suicide does not solve problems or pain! It only pushes the problems and pain onto other people. It is the most selfish act a person could ever make!

Pls, suicide selfish, haha, thats so western culture joke,well, for me, its taking everything from others and grabbing for your self , and pure examples are North Korean leader Kim Jong-un , Staljin, Mao ce tung, Sadam Hussein , and other dictators , who would save the world of suffering, just that they were a little more "selfish" and killed them selfs .

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No. It's a coward's way out and an escape from actual atonement, which involves the universal lesson imparted to children across cultures: Clean up your own mess.

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It's a permanent 'solution' to a temporary problem. The one committing suicide assumes that others will stick around to clean up the mess. Walking away from a problem or pushing it onto someone else is not honourable at all. Leaving aside the mentally ill who cannot be held responsible for their actions, it's the coward's way out.

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Honor suicide is used to atone for wrongdoing , so, they acknowledge their quilt with that, and also , they bring punishment on them selfs. I cant believe when people say those people who do honor suicide are "selfish" and "cowards" , "escaping " and "leaving problems behind" .

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cleo,

Quite agree.

I used to live in Kichijoji, Tokyo. One morning a policeman came to the door, showed me a photograph and asked me if I knew the person. I didn't and asked why. He told me that the guy had gone up to the roof and jumped off and was trying to get information. I couldn't give him any, so he thanked me and went.

I put on my coat and headed out for work. When I got to the entrance to the apartment building, I saw the kanrinrinsan, with a bucket and mop, cleaning the blood off the pavement. The poor guy was in shock. His eyes were streaming with tears. He really was the nicest guy and nearly 70. It really hit him.

To echo what you write, the guy assumed that someone would be around to clean up the mess. And I'm sure the mess he left outside the apartment entrance was only a small part of it. There's always a mess. That's why they commit suicide in the first place.

The really sad thing is, that many of those who commit suicide do so while undergoing psychiatric "treatment."

That doesn't seem to be a solution either.

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Obviously, we don't know the full intent and circumstances of those who commit suicide because it is not always a cut-and-dried as some of us think. You have to take into consideration a person's genetic and chemical makeup, his mental state, his intellectual capacity, the teachings he received, the traditions of his father, his health and so forth. Was the suicide a tragic, pitiful call for help that went unheeded too long or progressed faster than the victim intended? Did he or she somehow not understand the seriousness of the act? Was he or she suffering from chemical imbalance in their system that led to despair and a loss of self-control? Honorable death is important in every culture and they all have subtle differences in the idea of an honorable death. A understanding of them can be a great value to all humanity. The best explanation for the quest of an honorable death is probably that such a way of dying give the ultimate meaning to all life itself. However, I wonder maybe it is not all peace and serenity on the other side for anyone who commits suicide.

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I cant believe when people say those people who do honor suicide are "selfish" and "cowards" , "escaping " and "leaving problems behind" .

I can't believe people who feel laying and accepting blame is all that's involved in wrongdoing. Repairing damage done is as important a part of atonement as taking blame. Any fool can throw his or herself off a bridge. It requires true courage, however, to devote one's time and energy to making things right again.

If you want to jump in front of a train after you've done your utmost to repair the damage you wrought, then have a field day. I likely wouldn't stop you.

But please don't come here peddling "Honor" as some sort of magical keyword that makes everything perfect and clean. "Honor" has been the primary ingredient in some of humanity's most spectacular crimes against itself.

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Those who are convicted beyond reasonable doubt of heinous crimes should have heinous punishment! The minimum punishment they should have to endure is to work in chain gangs for public condemnation and / or in tough prison camps! Suicide is a far to easy option! Or there is the other option of bringing back 'Public Stonings'!!!

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Bertie, I was thinking more in terms of the mess of the 'problem' they had failed to solve, the crime/scandal/whatever they had dropped onto someone else's lap, the relatives, families and loved ones (their own and their victims') left with no one to answer their question Why??...but yes, the actual physical clean-up is a nightmare in itself. Like your kanrininsan left mopping blood, the cleaners who have to wash bits of body off the tracks and train that someone has jumped in front of, the hotel cleaners who come in to do their job and find a body in the room, the family member who finds a loved one swinging in the garage..... making that kind of mess and expecting someone else to clean it up is the height of selfishness, and I'd be interested to hear how people like Nenad Jovanović reconcile that with atonement for wrongdoing. It doesn't remove the original wrongdoing, it doesn't make anything right, and it creates a further wrong.

There is nothing honourable in pushing your mess, whether legal, financial, emotional, moral or bloody and physical, onto someone else.

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Suicide requires both incredible courage and cowardice to do, but will never be an 'honourable' way to resolve anything in my eyes.

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The majority of posters here have neither the courage nor the honor to either give or take their life as the ultimate sacrifice. The overwhelming theme is me, me, me. (having to clean up a mess.....puleeze!) Doesn't the condemnation boil down to the fact that they resent those who have the courage to make the ultimate sacrifice. It's much easier to sit in cold comfort and say "how dare you do something that I l don't have the courage to do!"

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Nenad: "Pls, suicide selfish, haha, thats so western culture joke"

Yes, it is selfish. I know more than one family where the husband killed himself because he had gambled their savings or because he got fired, and the mother and kids in both families were left alone and helpless at the time. Of one of those families, they had to pay a bunch of money because the man had jumped in front of a train and delayed the line for more than an hour, stranding many people. Obviously neither family got any life insurance because it was suicide. So, yeah, that's pretty selfish, my friend. They men didn't want to own up to what they did and merely wanted to escape by the easiest means possible.

Suicide is the cowardly way out. Atoning for your crimes or what have you is harder, but the honorable thing to do. That's not religion, it's common sense.

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There is a saying that it takes more courage to live than to commit suicide. We're all going to die in the end anyway, but suicide is the easy way out instead of having to deal with the consequences of one's actions in life and facing the judgement of the laws of man. Life is like a story being told, the question is how do people want it to end. Sometimes it will end unexpectedly at the hands of others, or by the hands of a person themselves. Ideally one would live a life until old age and be able to look back on their experiences with fondness and personal growth until their last breath.

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It's obvious those voting no and thinking suicide is 'cowardly' are doing so because this question is inherently 'Japanese' in nature.

Because whenever we read of business leaders committing suicide after crime/scandal, it's usually always an Asian person, most likely Japanese.

Hence, the negative perception.

In fact, committing suicide over crime/scandal, in terms of it being business related, is far more honorable than what happens to typical white collar criminals in places like America. There, white collar criminals have not an ounce of remorse, and do their time (if any) in cushy ultra minimum prison farms, almost like a vacation getaway. Once they get out, they are still rich and some of them even make a 'comeback' as business leaders again.

At least business leaders who commit suicide won't get slaps on the wrist or not face any punishment.

Committing suicide is hardly cowardly. It is the ultimate act, and takes a lot of guts to do. I would never do so because I am too scared to die.

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Suicide is a coward's way out.

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Cleo,

Bertie, I was thinking more in terms of the mess of the 'problem' they had failed to solve, the crime/scandal/whatever they had dropped onto someone else's lap, the relatives, families and loved ones (their own and their victims') left with no one to answer their question Why??

Yes. I got that from what you wrote. It's very true. The only way to solve a problem is to solve it. Dumping it on someone else doesn't solve it, nor does running away from it, pretending it doesn't exist or any other form of giving up. Suicide cannot be a solution.

Whatever one believes about an afterlife, it is certain that at the point of death, a person has to face their most severe critic.

The all-knowing, all seeing, all-powerful.

The one who controls their destiny.

THEY HAVE TO FACE THEMSELVES.

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Nenad JovanovićMar. 03, 2014 - 10:22AM JST Pls, suicide selfish, haha, thats so western culture joke,well, for me, its taking everything from others and grabbing for your self , and pure examples are North Korean leader Kim Jong-un , Staljin, Mao ce tung, Sadam Hussein , and other dictators , who would save the world of suffering, just that they were a little more "selfish" and killed them selfs .

Except that these people were all sociopaths who would never commit suicide. That's the problem with suicide, only good people in bad situations commit suicide. Bad people would never commit suicide.... murder someone else, sure... kill themselves, no.

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My best friend, a real nice guy, killed himself at the age of 51 not long ago, leaving a wife and two kids. No suicide note, but did have a history of mental illnesses and had had numerous 'episodes' the last few years previous so there had been plenty of warnings. No one was particularly surprised, it was an inevitable outcome they said. Generally speaking, people who kill themselves usually exhibit symptoms of mental illness quite in advance of their demises. We made every effort to support my friend but in the end how do you protect people from themselves ?

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Obviously not. Just live up to your actions and accept the punishment that comes your way. Everyone knows the rules and everyone should play by them. (though obviously exceptions exist aka. gays speaking out in Russia, insiders from North Korea speaking out etc.)

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siggygyouza,

A similar thing happened to me.

My brother in law, also a really nice guy, committed suicide.

He had a good business, making furniture for physically handicapped people.

No money problems, a loving wife and three kids.

Against my advice, he had "counselling" at a psych hospital in Hokkaido.

They gave him tranquillisers to make him forget and "counselling" to get him to remember.

I could never work this out - but then, what do I know?

He did it while receiving psychiatric "help," between "counselling" sessions.

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Absolutely YES! It's also a honorable way to die as a "right-winger". Just like this Korean nationalist. Sadly it was a frustrated attempt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1UArBkYZmM&list=FLyDz5VQoa90h5R071NK9Amw&index=2

Suicide nullifies all of your worries,troubles, bad deeds etc. It is the ultimate freefom! sarcasm intended

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Of course not, what a ridiculous question.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Suicide is not honorable, a person who is pondering suicide needs help and sometimes needs to have someone make him realize that facing the dreaded demons is in the long run better than just ending it. Suicide is usually seen as an option by someone when hope is no longer present, so what one needs to back that off is hope. If a person is severely depressed though, hope might not be around, so one has gotta help that person see hope even in the darkest of pits.

When I was younger, I once considered suicide myself. I had no friends, all my class and its teachers bullied me, my father was dying and my mother was too busy to notice me. I only saw that as the way out, until an uncle came around and made me realize how egoistic I would be, he guilt tripped me badly and made me realize that by sticking around and just lying low I could survive this, and well..he was right, but I had to become so much stronger and that's what was scaring the living demons out of me in reality, enough strength to grow up when you don't have faith in yourself is a mountain chain. Trying to build faith and hope when people around you have none for you is also difficult, very difficult and that's why I say, please seek help!

Personally I see suicide attempts as calls for help, calls for attention- the very last try. It can also be vengeful, don't wanna go in detail but imagine if someone kills himself in response to an act someone does for him and actually leaves a note stating that as the reason? I'd probably go crazy.

What suicide is NOT, is a laughable thing. I've gone to a suicidal funeral who was at university and her classmates just laughed at her 'cowardice', after giving her hell for being 'weird', they only blamed her..must be nice to live oblivious to the pain around oneself.

It is also not an honorable thing: what's honorable in making your family pay for what you did? Nothing! What is making people live with remorse and without an explanations from you, unable to realize why you acted like that forever? There are periods in life where everything is very gloomy and dark, but wait up, and if you did something wrong be a man/woman and face responsibility properly. If you were strong enough to hurt people, be strong enough to face responsibility.

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"The taking of a life does no one honor"

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The only time I could ever agree with suicide is one who is terminally ill with an incurable disease or condition. They know they are going to die soon but are brave enough to want to go out on their own terms. Only then would I agree with it.

Killing yourself because you've done wrong is unforgivable because, for you, it is the easy way but for those who love and care about you it is a grave punishment. Those who care about you have done nothing wrong, it is you committed the crime, yet in the end, it is they who are punished for it.

The honourable way to atone is not just admit your guilt or to express remorse and then run away by offing yourself but to devote yourself to repairing the damage caused by your crime or actions.

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There is nothing honourable in killing yourself. Never was, never will be.

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Suicide is a quick escape; an act of a pride-filled coward. Real atonement takes time, effort, and genuine remorse.

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First, i am not sure some of them are suicide by force or coertion by threatening their family or worth their reputation.

Second, it close to easily the legal case, and fobid serious investigation on other crime they would have easily commit, or given their friend to face face lesser charges.

Third, there is no honourable death but to spare an innocent unecessrary pain, otherwise it is the coward way not to face the pain and consequences of what they inflicted to others.

In conclusion, i think to limit those "suicide" death, they should pudh investaigation even more, and look for anything that would suggest this person has been push to suicide. Any friends should be financially sorowfully investigated has a verification then have not personnal interest in the death of their friend, and if so should be accuse of murder.

Suicide in Japan, have too many time, been use to hide the truth behind litlle peaces of it.

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I see I'm among the 86% who voted no. I can understand people wanting to commit suicide if they are suffering from a terrible disease, but not to atone for a crime or a scandal. They should face up to it.

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Suicide in general I won't judge people on. I've been there, as many other people have, when you have SO much hurt that THAT is the only way to be freed from it all. In that situation it is NOT cowardly because you have to be unafraid of death to do so. But when talking about killing yourself to escape punishment for a crime, it's wrong because you're just taking the easy way out so you won't have to suffer. Especially when they've done things to harm others, because it's not fair that they can escape and leave their victims here to suffer the aftermath of what they've done.(I know I'm probably gonna get yelled at for saying all that, but that's how I feel and what I know is true.)

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For crime and scandal yes it is.

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Suicide is the coward's way of escaping responsibility for crimes or scandals. To use the cliche "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." This is why I have an issue with the Death Penalty as well. It's not a suitable punishment. The criminal doesn't suffer as the victim(s) suffers/suffered. There is no justice in shortcutting punishment with death. You don't atone when you're dead, regardless of what (if anything) awaits us after death. You need to live out your sentence and work to atone for your actions, and make reparations for them. Suicide ony avoids that redemption.

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I agree with the majority, but I doubt a "coward" would be able to off themselves.

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Definitely, public self mutilation and family debited to pay the victims!

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Riffraff,

The ultimate sacrifice is dying to save someone else, not committing suicide.

Suicide is a repugnant act of narcissism. That life insurance here covers it is obscene.

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Many say suicide is a cowards way out. I think not. Sometimes its the smart way out or the selfish way out. Tossing over-simple mantras at this will not bring understanding.

What is clear is that death tends to accomplish little while life is full of possibilities. The only way to truly atone for a crime is to dedicate an appropriate amount of one's life to fixing or making up for what one did.

The scandal aspect is being over-looked. But what is scandal but just a gobblety gook of people's selfish feelings? No scandal is worth a life. That is clear. But its also clear that theft of people's money by corporate sleight of hand is wrongly called a scandal when its actually theft.

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Some people are more prone to becoming victims of suicide than others in the same way that some are more prone to having mental issues than others. What if you worked in a food processing factory and mistakenly added a chemical to food and say 20 or 100 people died? It would be hard to atone for that so I could probably understand if that person committed suicide. That is an extreme case and our problems are usually much smaller but some tend to convince themselves that their is no way out (especially involving money or relationship issues) and a particular problem seems too difficult to solve so they lose hope and can't think of other options. It is interesting that suicide is very rare in poor countries in Africa. A trip over there may make some realise things aren't necessarily THAT bad.

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I think there are definite differences in how each culture views suicide.

Mental illness is not really relevant here, I think. There are a few stories about people commiting suicide because they have problems in their life and they are not mentally stable. I don't think these are the type of suicides that are in question.

I think the type of suicide in question here is when someone has committed some sort of terrible crime (whether it was intentional or not) and to atone, they decide to commit suicide. I think that the people in this scenario don't really want to commit suicide, but feel obliged through their code of honour.

That said, I definitely agree with the majority of posters in that this type of suicide solves nothing and creates more problems in the long run for those left behind.

I think that it should never be an option for crimes especially if the perpetrator truly feels remorse. Those people, can change, and perhaps work to create a better world for those people who their crimes affected. Perhaps some victims may feel a small bit of solace from death, but in the long run, it's such a terrible waste.

I think that if someone is truly sorry for a crime, they will work hard to right the wrong. For me, that is much more honourable.

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If you want to "atone" for a crime or scandal then atone. It doesn't matter if is hard, try. If you took a life, save a life or adopt and raise a life. Hurt people, help people. Make the world better. Depending on how bad, you may never be able to fully atone but you should try. Howard Hugh felt responsible for the death of one his engineers during a test flight. He made sure that the engineer's family never was lacking and his kids when to college.

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Nothing "honorable" about it. The ones(family, friends) they leave behind suffer the most!

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Why should we all 'pay' again to convict, sentence and jail someone who knows they are guilty. If they know they've done wrong, it saves us all the 'hassles' if that person ends it. Those that fail to understand this will almost always have a religious reasoning behind it and those who claim not are probably the worst closet case religious god fearing ones.

Remember, if you could reason with religious people, then there'd be no religious people.

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Setting aside the fact that suicide is only understandable in extreme circumstances (such as repeated torture with no hope of rescue)...

Suicide as a method of "atonement" is a delusion embraced by the perpetrator. It's the coward's way of getting out of having to REALLY atone for their transgression or crime. Instead of the people left behind thinking, "He was so ashamed of his action that he killed himself", they end up thinking, "He was too afraid to face the people he wronged, so he killed himself before that could happen."

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Encouraging someone kill themselves as a method of atonement to 'save' society from 'paying again' through judicial procedures is a pretty dangerous precedent to set. Society is now saying 'When you make a mistake by our current standards, you have no redeemable qualities and are unnecessary to the societies stability and advancement'. Now on the basis of most religions, that counters the notion of redemption and enlightenment. On basis of Darwinism, this thought discourages (more like limits) evolution. Redemption, Education, Enlightenment, Advancement, Personal Growth are all based on the ability to attempt, endure, and overcome obstacles. Crime is an obstacle of society, whether committed as a society or a random individual. As a society, encouraging the suicides of individuals making mistakes hinders society more than it helps as it fails to allow for growth.

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You cannot help a patient unless he or she acknowledges he or she has a problem. And that problem has to do with the system of beliefs that person has. So, it is more complicated than just people from one religion or other might think. It is basically what compels a person to do it. Unless a person leave a written note, there is no much we can find out about his or her motives. On the other hand, strong system of beliefs that is clear about it might help in prevent it.

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You cannot help a patient unless he or she acknowledges he or she has a problem. And that problem has to do with the system of beliefs that person has. So, it is more complicated than just people from one religion or other might think. It is basically what compels a person to do it. Unless a person leave a written note, there is no much we can find out about his or her motives. On the other hand, strong system of beliefs that is clear about it might help in prevent it.

I think you missed the part in the original question that said, "...to atone for a crime or scandal?"

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I wish more criminals would kill themselves, rather than tying up the justice system for years with appeals, causing pain tot he families, and costing thousands and thousands of dollars. Some people have forfeited their right to life in society for the crimes they have committed, so they should just kill themselves to save us the hassles of having to deal with them.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

No. Life is worth much more than a single act of doing anything. to atone for a crime or a mistake. Find some other way to atone for the mistake.

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No, it is insane and self-destructive.. and "uniqely" Japanese. But not in a good way.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

I'm definitely in the minority and think it's okay. Not all the time, but it's not something that I think should never ever be considered as appropriate.

First of all, if every effort is made to clean up the mess you've caused, then suicide is definitely something that I think is okay. Clean up the mess, and if you know you're prone to making the same messes over and over again, then if you want to kill yourself, I say, "Go for it!" Some people just repeat their mistakes over and over, even though they know it's wrong and feel terrible about it. Breaking the cycle is just too hard for some people and never erases the guilt over past mistakes. Clean up your mess and then off yourself.

There's also the fact that not everyone has a support system. Some people just will not be missed by anyone. That's a simple fact of life, and to pretend otherwise is silly.

Did anyone shed tears over Ariel Castro's suicide? No. Granted, he committed suicide because he thought prison was too hard, but it still doesn't mean that he's missed or pitied. I don't think anyone batted an eye, so saying that you'll always hurt someone else with your suicide is nonsense.

This is going to sound morbid, but even if you leave behind loved ones (and I don't recommend that you do), they'll eventually move on from you. Have a wife? She'll remarry, and she'll probably love him more. It's just a trade-up, you know. There's you and all the shameful baggage attached, and then there's Mr. Right over there.

I've only known one person who remained loyal to their spouse, and that's an old woman who lives in our community. Her husband died in his 50s and she never remarried. She still talks about "Johnny" quite frequently; her phone number is still listed under his name in the phonebook, and it's his name that appears on the caller ID whenever she calls someone.

Most people, though, have a healthy period of grief and then move on. My grandfather was flirting with women within months of Grandma's death, and many people start dating again after the customary year is up. Heck, I've even heard of people who were scoping out new love interests while at their deceased husband's/wife's funeral!

It sound horrible, but no one is irreplaceable. With criminals, depending on the crime, it's even more-so. I really wish it weren't the case, but people are fickle.

It's harder on your parents, siblings, children, and grandchildren, I think, but sometimes your death will bring about peace for them.

Now, these scenarios are all in extreme circumstances. Do I think the guy who accidentally hit a kid who unexpectedly ran out in front of him should go kill himself? No. But if you killed someone intentionally, for which there's no way to clean that mess up, and wound up with a guilty conscience, would anyone really cry and grieve at the loss of your presence? Probably not.

I'd also like to point out that suicide isn't easy. The people who have survived their suicide attempts have many different perspectives, but I've never heard anyone say it was a simple decision, regardless of culture or religious background. Your body fights you the whole way, and you have to be really dedicated to succeed.

This is also my opinion today. It could change tomorrow, but I tend to go through periods of cynicism.

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There is a difference of culture between Asia and Western. In Asia, it believes suicide is courageous thing to do to avoid disgrace. Asian cultures belittle coward person who still waits for last chance of survival to remain alive like Musoolini or Qaddafi until they met humiliating death by executed in front of angry public. In my opinion, Asian culture was superior and way ahead of western in civilization,500 years before Jesus was born, Confucius already taught leader to die in honorable death than suffered humiliation. Don't believe in religious teaching that suicide is cowardice, as a matter of fact, it is courageous action that a few could do.

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I'm still surprised why most Japanese people won't commit suicide. If someone would do that, it gives another more pressure to do it because it makes him look like a coward. And it would go on as a form of vicious circle. No one likes to be called a coward. There are likely no people who make life mistakes. And social pressure is likely in every Japanese family a thing. most Japanese people would had struggles with the question to suicide. Something tells me the suicide issue in Japan isn't explained very well in the general world media.

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