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In an increasingly partisan media environment, do you believe journalists have lower ethical standards than in the days before social media?

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If anyone with a blog is considered a journalist, then yes there are more with lower ethical standards simply because there are more 'journalists' today. But I agree with the quote below:

Political bias has been a feature of the mass media since its birth with the invention of the printing press. The expense of early printing equipment restricted media production to a limited number of people. Historians have found that publishers often served the interests of powerful social groups.[57]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias

Support the rights of a free, for-profit press. Regardless political perspective.

Challenge those favoring government controlled media (e.g. China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.) and resist government attacks on the free press.

BTW the above link from Wikipedia has good information.

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It's been 36 years since 1984.

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Journalistic "intergrity" was compromised long before social media when there as the great corporate consolidation back in the 1980s.

It was already on the down trend in the 1970s.

But news journalism has always been more about sensationalism than real news. However, there has always been a strong undercurrent of real, investigative hard hitting journalism that, lucky for us, simply won't die.

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Depending on the person, there is ethics or no. Its been that way forever.

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Support the rights of a free, for-profit press. Regardless political perspective.

What about the rights of a not-for-profit press?

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The big problem is government funded media. Take NHK, they receive mandatory publc subscriptions on top of government subsidy being the "official" Japanese broadcaster, and they also sell advertising. Politicians pander to them and in return NHK will never push against the LDP overlords.

I trust bloggers with experience in their field of reporting far and above commericial/corporate media or the government subsidised media.

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and they also sell advertising. 

Just FYI, NHK isn’t allowed to sell advertising, nor do they recieve money directly from the government, all their revenue comes from the mandatory subscriptions we all pay.

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Challenge those favoring government controlled media

As well, challenge those favoring globalist controlled media (no difference IMO). We didn’t see anything in the MSM about the recent OPCW hearings at the UN.

invalid CSRF

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The Ancient Age of Journalism

Alas, how times have changed. In memory of Jim Lehrer.

“I practice journalism in accordance with the following guidelines:

• Do nothing I cannot defend.

• Do not distort, lie, slant, or hype.

• Do not falsify facts or make up quotes.

• Cover, write, and present every story with the care I would want if the story were about me.

• Assume there is at least one other side or version to every story.

• Assume the viewer is as smart and caring and good a person as I am.

• Assume the same about all people on whom I report.

• Assume everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

• Assume personal lives are a private matter until a legitimate turn in the story mandates otherwise.

• Carefully separate opinion and analysis from straight news stories and clearly label them as such.

• Do not use anonymous sources or blind quotes except on rare and monumental occasions. No one should ever be allowed to attack another anonymously.

• Do not broadcast profanity or the end result of violence unless it is an integral and necessary part of the story and/or crucial to understanding the story.

• Acknowledge that objectivity may be impossible but fairness never is.

• Journalists who are reckless with facts and reputations should be disciplined by their employers.

• My viewers have a right to know what principles guide my work and the process I use in their practice.

• I am not in the entertainment business.”

Today news is entertainment and entertainment is news.

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Having granulated from a journalism school surely is part of the requirement to be described as a journalist.

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Having granulated from a journalism school surely is part of the requirement to be described as a journalist.

Only in an authoritarian country with no free speech. Otherwise, anyone who writes or reports on current events is a journalist. This concept of needing a degree or a license of some sort is a recent concept introduced by governments who would like to control who can and can't be called a journalist.

Does a novelist have to graduate from novelist school?

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Depends on the news organization and their politics. For all its problems, I'd rather the BBC than something like the (mostly) hyper partisan Fox. The BBC is accused by the left of being in thrall to the government, whilst the right think they are Marxists. Both "sides" are wrong, of course. It's somewhere in the middle. But these days, it's all one view or the other with no room for grey areas.

As well, challenge those favoring globalist controlled media

Now this statement is an example of conspiracy theory that has its roots in anti-Semitic tropes and crops up in the more unpleasant realms of "journalism". It needs to be pointed out, every time it's used, just how heinous this term is.

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Only in an authoritarian country with no free speech. Otherwise, anyone who writes or reports on current events is a journalist.

That would make all of us here journalists.

Which, clearly, we aren't.

Using free speech when commenting on current affairs is all well and good but it doesn't mean we are journos.

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Using free speech when commenting on current affairs is all well and good but it doesn't mean we are journos.

Then you are missing the point of free speech and a free press. There was no such thing as journalism school until very recently, and most of the world's greatest journalists never attended college (Mark Twain, for example). If you allow an authority to define what a journalist is, then you are allowing that authority to decide who has free speech.

So, we all write, but does that make us writers? What defines a writer? Certainly not one who studied writing at school. Journalists earn credibility through their work. Comments on a forum like this hardly qualify as journalism, though maybe there's a journalist or two here. But the whole point is that the government has no right to deny freedom of press to somebody because they are "not a journalist."

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In an increasingly partisan media environment, do you believe journalists have lower ethical standards than in the days before social media?

Unfortunately, yes.

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People are fooling themselves if they think things have really changed.

Journalism has never been perfect in any era. Just looking at newspaper articles (both in Japan and Canada) from early 1900s and onwards, some journalists were just as vile as they are today. Ethics really depends upon the management and the individual making the report.

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In an increasingly partisan media environment, do you believe journalists have lower ethical standards than in the days before social media

I have a big problem with this question. These days, in the US at least, it’s not really the “journalists” any more, but a handful of mega corporations that control over 90% of what we watch, read and listen to. Social media has just added to the amount of control and sway over the people.

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With social media and the rush of a 24-hour news cycle, the bias and lack of integrity is much more obvious. But the idea that journalists have, on the whole, ever had integrity is laughable. In the middle decades of the 20th century, after the yellow journalism earlier in the 1900s, journalists worked hard to earn public trust because they recognized the power that public trust gained them, but were they actually ethical? No. Journalists were still pushing agendas, but they cloaked themselves in professional ethics. Once people were able to independently verify what the news reports, it didn't take long for the ethical veneer to wear off. The internet and social media have allowed people to share firsthand knowledge and video directly, so media narratives can be questioned. At the same time, greater competition, the collapse of newspaper advertising revenue, and other pressures have driven journalists farther down the path of screaming opinion in order to gain attention instead of reporting facts.

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My view of journalism is to show as well rounded view of an issue as possible, ie. diverse views. Journalism that does not seek to report on different viewpoints is not really journalism in my mind.

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all their (NHK) revenue comes from the mandatory subscriptions we all pay.

Or don't.

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Depends on the news organization and their politics. For all its problems, I'd rather the BBC than something like the (mostly) hyper partisan Fox.

In the case of the US, I would rather watch Fox, don’t like the BBC except for their fantastic documentaries, but even though FNC does tilt more right, that’s not the issue 98% of the media in THE US is liberal and present a liberal point of view and until FNC came on the scene there wasn’t anything, in Europe’s case, SKY News is IMHO better.

Now this statement is an example of conspiracy theory that has its roots in anti-Semitic tropes and crops up in the more unpleasant realms of "journalism". It needs to be pointed out, every time it's used, just how heinous this term is.

I think that’s how you see it, race has nothing to do with it or religion, it’s more about an ideology which is what’s driving globalism, that is what needs to be pointed out and I think it has done a great disservice to journalism as well as a countries individual sovereignty.

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Using free speech when commenting on current affairs is all well and good but it doesn't mean we are journos.

That is very true and to the point I was making that online there are so many sites you can find that try to pose themselves off as reliable sources or journalist and they clearly are not and that causes problems with spreading a lot of disinformation around the world. Free speech is great and needs to be protected, but it needs to be covered by responsible and reputable people that care about the facts.

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In the case of the US, I would rather watch Fox, don’t like the BBC except for their fantastic documentaries, but even though FNC does tilt more right, that’s not the issue 98% of the media in THE US is liberal and present a liberal point of view and until FNC came on the scene there wasn’t anything, in Europe’s case, SKY News is IMHO better.

Sky news is part of the Murdoch empire, so your fondness for it is pretty much a given.

What is it about BBC coverage that you don't like? They've been accused of pro-Johnson bias, esp with reporters like Laura Kuenssberg, so it can't be that...

I think that’s how you see it, race has nothing to do with it or religion, it’s more about an ideology which is what’s driving globalism, that is what needs to be pointed out and I think it has done a great disservice to journalism as well as a countries individual sovereignty.

Hmm. You are aware just how the term has been appropriated by the far right, surely? It's used as a dog whistle and journalists who use the term are doing a great disservice to their craft.

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My view of journalism is to show as well rounded view of an issue as possible, ie. diverse views. Journalism that does not seek to report on different viewpoints is not really journalism in my mind.

The job of a journalist is to report facts. To take climate change as an example: it is real, scientists agree. Journalists should not platform climate change deniers.

There's an old expression which goes something like: if you're a journalist and someone tells you it's raining, and someone else tells you it's dry out, your job is not to report on the diversity of views. Your job is to look out the window and see which is true.

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Sky news is part of the Murdoch empire, so your fondness for it is pretty much a given.

Yes, I do like hearing both sides of the political argument.

What is it about BBC coverage that you don't like?

Besides it being run by the government and caters more to the left of politics on most political issues, not much.

They've been accused of pro-Johnson bias, esp with reporters like Laura Kuenssberg, so it can't be that...

Even so, it still overwhelming serves a more liberal audience and that’s ok if you prefer that.

Hmm. You are aware just how the term has been appropriated by the far right, surely?

Yeah, liberals always say that, doesn’t really matter though.

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The job of a journalist is to report facts.

Well, we could elaborate on that critical point all day as what facts are or perceived as facts.

To take climate change as an example: it is real, scientists agree. Journalists should not platform climate change deniers.

There's an old expression which goes something like: if you're a journalist and someone tells you it's raining, and someone else tells you it's dry out, your job is not to report on the diversity of views. Your job is to look out the window and see which is true.

I see

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Besides it being run by the government 

The BBC is not run by the government. Your contention is that it is very liberal because the government runs it? Then why has it been “liberal” when the U.K. has had a right wing government for a decade?

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The BBC is not run by the government.

Good to know, as I said, I watch mostly their beautiful docus.

Your contention is that it is very liberal because the government runs it? Then why has it been “liberal” when the U.K. has had a right wing government for a decade?

European right wing and American right wing ideologies are very different.

I’m glad I could teach you...

No, you didn’t tesch, I just meant to say, I don’t care about that issue.

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Oh, I do care, I just don’t care to listen to liberal one-sided point of views.

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To be honest, it's more about lazy journalism rather than lower ethical standards. There's just no money to pay people to go knocking on doors, sifting through hours of research etc. due to the majority of the press giving away their content for free. I haven't bought a newspaper in years. Where's the income to pay the wages coming from? Most journalists now sit at their desk surfing twitter because there's no budget to send them anywhere. In the UK, it now costs £27,000 in tutution fees for three years at university. Add on another £25,000 in living fees and are you really going to go £50k in debt for an industry that's low paid and with a shrinking job base? If I could go back in time, I'd learn coding and work a £70k a year job!

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I agree.

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Besides it being run by the government

BBC is not run by the government. Who told you this?

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The question isn't just about the American media.

Press Freedoms.

Japan ranks too low down on that. There are no questions and answers with the press and the government. Government statements published are the norm.

To many, in this era of social media the press have become less interesting and millions no longer read the papers or even watch TV news. The established media continues to try and find ways to keep the old order working but new need ideas.

Japan is still a newspaper country with 90% of the circulations delivered to homes. 72 million copies are sold everyday.

Typically, most articles of Japanese newspapers have no signature. News writes are educated to write "objective" articles without any personal opinion. This could be a root of some trouble or miss-leading articles.

True journalists should not be making fake news whether in the press media or social networks. What is a journalist? Someone who reports a story based on the facts known.

Unfortunately, over three years Trump has made more than 16,000 wrong claims or false facts. That only encourages others to do the same, especially his political base.

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The question isn't just about the American media.

We are talking about ALL media, Japan included.

Press Freedoms.

True journalists should not be making fake news whether in the press media or social networks. What is a journalist? Someone who reports a story based on the facts known.

That’s how it should be in truth.

Unfortunately, over three years Trump has made more than 16,000 wrong claims or false facts. That only encourages others to do the same, especially his political base.

It’s amazing that liberals want to fact check Trump, but don’t want to fact check themselves amazing.

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It’s amazing that liberals want to fact check Trump, but don’t want to fact check themselves amazing.

It's amazing that any one you don't agree with become a liberal?

According to the Washington Post, Trump has made more than 16,000 false or misleading statements since taking office. That’s an average of about 15 a day, seven days a week.

https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/01/the-danger-of-fibbing-our-way-into-war/

All False statements involving Donald Trump

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

But after this you will post your usual reply about all the presidents lie but none more than Trump.

The one that sticks in my mind is when Trump was making a speech in New York claiming his daughter Ivanka created 14 million new American jobs.

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There are media which is available to all but more is coming subscription only. I don't have any subscription media except what I have with my Hikari TV channels. Social networking needs memberships but not subscriptions.

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It's amazing that any one you don't agree with become a liberal?

No, it’s i don’t agree with the liberal media overwhelmingly pushing a one-sided political perspective on worldly issues and not wanting to allow for counter alternative POV.

According to the Washington Post, Trump has made more than 16,000 false or misleading statements since taking office. That’s an average of about 15 a day, seven days a week.

Ok, that’s the Washington Post

Another Perspective from the Hill

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/393553-the-media-just-cant-stop-lying-about-trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_F-cwgMjDs

But after this you will post your usual reply about all the presidents lie but none more than Trump.

Because the liberal mainstream focuses on that and will not be balanced to look at the lies and contradictions from the other side

The one that sticks in my mind is when Trump was making a speech in New York claiming his daughter Ivanka created 14 million new American jobs.

I think this sums up the liberal media over-exaggerations on this President.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/09/the-media-is-always-always-wrong-about-trump-and-national-security/

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bass4funk

I think this sums up the liberal media over-exaggerations on this President.

I think it sums up your opinion more than the liberal media. Firstly, I actually listened to Trump's New York speech, and secondly, the speech transcript is available on the WH site.

From the WH transcript

"And when she started this two and a half years ago, her goal was 500,000 jobs. She’s now created 14 million jobs and they’re being trained by these great companies — the greatest companies in the world. Because the government can’t train them. It’s a great thing. (Applause.)"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-economic-club-new-york-new-york-ny/

The America Dept of Labor puts new jobs at about 5 million.

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I think it sums up your opinion more than the liberal media.

Not just MY opinion, it’s facts. Why should we be subjected to hearing one side of the political spectrum? This was the very idea why FNC was created. To give an alternative POV on the news.

"And when she started this two and a half years ago, her goal was 500,000 jobs. She’s now created 14 million jobs and they’re being trained by these great companies — the greatest companies in the world. Because the government can’t train them. It’s a great thing. (Applause.)"

Ok and here’s a take on the media lies about the President.

https://bongino.com/the-list-the-media-has-pushed-at-least-109-fake-stories-about-trump/

So you do need balance on both sides and when covering mostly one side is never a good thing for the society and discourse.

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The scarey right wing media is dangerous!

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Media is how the rulers control, bemuse, and outright deceive their 'workers', us. The biggest lie of all is that journalists have ever been entirely ethical, or more accurately perhaps, ALLOWED to be ethical. The question might well better phrased "In an increasingly partisan media environment, do you believe editors have lower ethical standards than in the days before social media?" Media has NEVER been neutral in any Human society, past or present, and that it is, or even can be, is one of the biggest lies we are sold, that we can trust the psychopath owned media to give us Human Reality. And when we look a bit deeper at public media and at Human Reality, we see that the media create MOST of what we call Human Reality. Perception is everything and the truth in our world today the least part of all that we believe, have been told, is true. And the only "increasingly partisan media environment" is just the discovery that all one has to do these days is lie and no questions will be asked because so much of our population is not educated enough to free themselves from the false perceptions and have been made so docile they don't even think to doubt the most outrageous and obviously false information pummeling us daily fro all outlets. Just read Edward Bernays, he'll explain to you as he explained it to Joseph Goebbels.

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