Wakayama Gov Yoshinobu Nisaka. The U.S. military is conducting low-altitude training flights by its Osprey aircraft over Wakayama, Ehime, Kochi and Tokushima prefectures. (Yomiuri Shuimbun)
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I don't understand why the planes have to fly over Wakayama. Neither the U.S. military nor the Defense Ministry have given any explanations.
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sillygirl
I believe I read that the JSDF were conducting live round drills near the planned route. Geez, that seems to be an explanation, no?
gaijinfo
I'm not sure admitting that you're being kept in the dark is a good campaign strategy...
BertieWooster
Good, now somewhere else can feel Okinawa's pain.
It's high time the US military left.
Mocheake
Bertie, hope you and the rest of the population are ready to defend Japan at a moment's notice. Somehow, though, I don't see that being the case.
Meguroman
Do fire fighters practice and train? - similar scenario.
Frungy
Oh stop fear-mongering Mocheake, any military action from China would probably be in the form of a missile attack, not an infantry invasion (I mean seriously, they'd be blown out of the water/sky half way across).
... and in case of a missile attack what are those Ospreys supposed to do? Nothing, that's what, just like the Marines down in Okinawa. Face it, infantry are obselete, and these Ospreys (basically glorified troop carriers) are a complete waste of money.
USNinJapan2
Frungy
Missile attacK? Not liklely as nothing is gained by it. Easiest first step for China would be to invade and hold a number of Japan's numerous off-shore islands in the south like Iriomote, Ishigaki, and Miyako. This would serve a triple purpose strategically for China, surround/box-in Taiwan, seizure of Japanese territory, and increased control over the East China and access to the open Pacific Oean. As much as you dismiss the infantry, there's no way to retake these islands without an amphibious assault force (which the JSDF lack completely) and without the Osprey which is the critical air element of the ship-to-shore movement of an amphibious assault force.
Meguroman
Frungy - so all militaries globally can get rid of infantry troops and all supporting units, air wings and transport ships? Awesome that you have a crystal ball. Do you write for Stratfor?
BertieWooster
Gosh, there are some people on this site who have swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
China attack Japan?
Don't be silly.
If China conducted a major act of aggression, it would lose more customers than it could afford to. It is a trading nation, after all.
The US "defence" of Japan is overkill.
What would China, North Korea or any other country gain from attacking Japan?
Access to the huge oil reserves?
Gold? Diamonds? Uranium?
The US military is here because it is financially supported by Japan and because it wants to protect its own interests from some imaginary attack. It has screwed up the Middle East and it seems to be bent on screwing up Asia.
Of course, those who benefit from it are trying to make it appear that North Korea and China are a threat, but this is smokescreen, propaganda.
And, living in Okinawa, I can vouch for this.
Ospreys are NOISY - I mean, really!
So, I'm glad in a sense that they are going to other parts of Japan for training exercises, then, at last, people may realise what Okinawa is suffering.
And for nothing!
BertieWooster
Meguroman-san,
By what twisted logic do you equate fire fighters with the US military?
True, both wear uniforms and both need training and practice, but the number of differences is staggering.
Fire fighters do not disturb people when they practice and train. The US military, on the other hand, is so noisy that in Ginowan in Okinawa, a class has to stop to wait for an aircraft to land because the children and the teacher can't hear each other. And this is in spite of noise protection!
And Japanese firefighters do not train in the U.S.A.
I cannot see why the US military has to train in a highly populated area like Okinawa.
USNinJapan2
BertieWooster
That's a shame. Perhaps the school shouldn't have been built under an approach path to the airfield? Works well though, build next to an airport and then complain about the noise and danger for political capital...
Tom Webb
Practice run for the Marines to bring-up the Ospreys from OKI in case they are need for actions in Korea.
Dilbert14
The only reason Ospreys are flying above is becuase you complained about helicopter noise. I can't do the same thing to my neighbor, but US can do it to you. I'm thankful.
Thunderbird2
The US should build man-made islands off the coast somewhere, place their bases there and then they can do whatever they like without causing annoyance to the Japanese. Solves loads of problems ^_^
CH3CHO
USNinJapan2
The aircraft started from Okinawa flew over Wakayama and then returned to Okinawa. Maybe Wakayama is too close to the airfield in Okinawa.
CH3CHO
BertieWooster
What is better is China reduce its offensive power.
BertieWooster
CH3CHO,
But it's OK for the U.S.A to have abundant offensive power?
BertieWooster
Thunderbird2,
It would solve LOTS of problems.
But why go to the expense of building islands off the coast somewhere?
US military should be on US soil.
lincolnman
Well let me try to refresh your memory - as Governor of Wakayama, you have been briefed on all bilaterally agreed to training areas and airspace for US and JSDF forces in your Prefecture - these have been designated for many years and are most likely highlighted on a map in your office. Members of the Ministry of Defense Bureau of Local Cooperation (prior Defense facilities Administration Bureau) have no doubt visited and briefed you, and your staff, many weeks ago on this MV-22 low altitude training. Given the high visibility of the training, no doubt Ministry of Foreign Affairs officials have visited also.
So bottomline - your claim of "failing to understand" why this training is being conducted is really somewhat absurd, and just merely more political "theater" and grandstanding" by a weak-willed politician to trying exploit a controversial issue for his own personal gain - or shall we say, politics as usual.......
lincolnman
I agree, especially that disseminated by the China Ministry of State Security…..
You have just insulted a majority of the Japanese public by calling them “silly” as a recent Yomuri poll showed over 80% view China as a direct military threat; the first time China has placed ahead of nKorea.
The far-right nationalists in China do not recognize that argument….
Your opinion, not shared by a majority of the Japanese public that fully support the US-Japan Security Treaty
Materiel “gain” is not the only variable – you underestimate the emotional factors that often overrides logic when it comes to the use of military force. Need proof? Review some of the Chinese blogs regarding whether China should begin a war with Japan to “recover its dignity”…..
The US military does not conduct foreign policy – it follows the direction of the civilian leadership of the country. It is here because both governments desire it to be here as outlined in formally approved bilateral accords, which, as mentioned above are supported by a majority of the public in both nations. I do agree with you on one point - the invasion of Iraq was a major blunder, but again, that decision was made by the country's civilian leadership, not the military.
You seem to know a lot about propaganda…….
I question whether you actually live in Okinawa………
So is an MRI machine – perhaps we should do away with them since they’re so noisy also…..
Your opinion, and again, one in a definite minority (unless you’re blogging from Beijing….)
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BertiWooster
I'm surprised that you're proposing that the Japan should return Okinawa to the US...