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All Blacks coach under fire for domestic violence comments

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Family and domestic violence is a serious problem in New Zealand. Selecting a player charged (but not convicted because he's a good rugby player) with domestic abuse for the All Blacks squad sends entirely the wrong message. Especially considering how ingrained that team is to the culture and image of the country.

To put it another way, imagine the power of the message if he hadn't been selected because of his past. Hard on Reece, sure, but hey, don't bash your girlfriend around.

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The coach was right. Women DO assault men. He said nothing about how common it was, or whether or not it is as common, less common, or more common than men assaulting women. Truth is it is hard to quantify. There are myriad social pressures on men to NOT report when they are assaulted by female parters. Women who report assault are believed, respected, and get sympathy. Men in the same situation are ridiculed and their manhood is questioned.

As for the player, charged does not equal convicted. Need a court case first.

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As for the player, charged does not equal convicted. Need a court case first.

Did you read the article?

The assault took place in a public place and would have continued had a doorman from a nearby establishment not intervened. Reece was given a $750 fine, and discharged without conviction, because as I said, he is good at rugby.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/107501255/waikato-rugby-star-sevuloni-reece-discharged-without-conviction-on-assault-charge

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Like I said, not convicted. Apparently the judge saw it as a couple of drunken people in a scuffle. He expressed remorse, apology was accepted by the victim, etc. Certainly not "domestic violence" in the commonly understood meaning of the term.

In any case, what the coach said still stands. No wrong, just a politically incorrect opinion.

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Hey lets just say it as it is...

The judge didnt want to convict him as it would have a negative effect on his career?

Well lets NOT convict anyone then. Apparantly, it has a negative effect on your career folks!!! (Isn’t that the desired effect/punishment?)

This judge woke up and screwed his lego head on backwards.

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Domestic violence is domestic violence. If you want to mince words, the legal term was 'male assaults female.'

Here are the bullet points,

He pleaded guilty. The female victim suffered injuries and bruising to her face, waist and knee. He was pulled off by a bouncer. A club he was supposed to go play for said a conviction would see his contract torn up, amounting to a mitigating circumstance in the judge's decision. They went ahead and tore it up anyway, because, you know, standards.

Go ahead and minimalise it all you want, but I feel his is a bad example to show NZ youth, so many of whom idolise these players.

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Attilathehungry,

Sorry, I didn't respond to your point about what the coach said. In that, we are in agreement.

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A conviction absolutely should have a negative effect on his career (as should any criminal conviction).

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