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Folau's anti-gay post condemned as 'unacceptable'

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So I guess Christianity, and Christian beliefs about how we risk damnation unless we repent of certain sins, are not part of the "inclusion and diversity" that they claim to champion.

That this is your understanding of the Bible just shows how far from the actual lessons of Christ most Christians are. It is not 'certain sins,' it is ALL sins.

And every being on the planet has sinned, according to the Bible.

To hold one sin, or certain sins, as being different from the others is as false as praying to a certain golden calf.

But keep wallowing in ignorance.

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I, for one, take equal offence at his other targets, as highlighted

drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolators

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drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolators

Sounds like a good night out to me.

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So I guess Christianity, and Christian beliefs about how we risk damnation unless we repent of certain sins, are not part of the "inclusion and diversity" that they claim to champion.

Certain sins. Like gathering sticks on the sabbath, and not banging your brother's wife is he dies.

Oh, I forgot, your "Christian beliefs' are the ones you select.

That means they ain't Christian, or 'objective." They are what you want.

And they certainly aren't what Jesus' talked about.

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He simply stated his belief that certain sins, if not repented of and turned away from, can lead to Hell.

"Whilst Israel is entitled to his religious beliefs, the way in which he has expressed these beliefs is inconsistent with the values of the sport...

"Israel has failed to understand that the expectation of him as a Rugby Australia and NSW Waratahs employee is that he cannot share material on social media that condemns, vilifies or discriminates against people on the basis of their sexuality. 

"Rugby is a sport that continuously works to unite people. We want everyone to feel safe and welcome in our game and no vilification based on race, gender, religion or sexuality is acceptable and no language that isolates, divides or insults people based on any of those factors can be tolerated.  

"As a code we have made it clear to Israel formally and repeatedly that any social media posts or commentary that is in any way disrespectful to people because of their sexuality will result in disciplinary action.

"In the absence of compelling mitigating factors, it is our intention to terminate his contract."

https://www.rugbyau.com/news/2019/04/11/rugby-australia-and-nsw-rugby-union-statement-regarding-israel-folau

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If these people really believed in "diversity and inclusion," they would make room for the freedom to voice those beliefs.

I think the religious should be allowed their opinions, but I also think they’d be better off keeping the more sinister and wacky ones within their flocks.

They’d be doing themselves and the rest of us a big favour.

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He is being fired because of the specific content of the tweet related to gay people, after being warned for the same thing last year. The fact that he's ignored his employers attempts to contact him hasnt helped either. It is pretty clear in his contract but he chose to do it anyway. He has chosen his religious beliefs over rugby and thats fine. But noone can be surprised at the outcome.

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He is totally entitled to his beliefs but if those beliefs run counter to his employers he is also free to find another job. Disgusting bigotry disguised as a religious belief. Selective bible bashing is still hate speech. Qantas Wallabies need to rip his contract up.

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Hes entitled to his opinion, they aren't of a negative nature against his employer or the sporting code he plays in so it should have no consequences from his employer.

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So, unless he repents he won't get to go to rugby heaven (RWC)?

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His contract has been cancelled.

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Good riddance.

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He also lumped drunk, atheist fornicators like me in with liars and thieves. Which is not nice.

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I think his comments were unwise given what his contract was reported to contain, namely a clause around this kind of social media post.

That said as a believer in freedom of speech, I defend his right to say what he said. I also have no issue with those who have criticised what he has said.

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Slavery was protected for decades in America as it was condonned in the bible. Religious belief is no immunity from the consequences of being a dick.

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Rather than being chastised, Folau should be praised for speaking out about Objective Morality and the consequence for all of us when we fail to conform to objective moral laws.

smh

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Rather than being chastised, Folau should be praised for speaking out about Objective Morality and the consequence for all of us when we fail to conform to objective moral laws.

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Izzy Folau added a comment to the meme he posted on Instagram.

”Those that are living in Sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.”

Is this a message of hate? Not warning people who are in danger would be unloving.

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"These comments are really disappointing and clearly don't reflect the spirit of inclusion and diversity that we support"

So I guess Christianity, and Christian beliefs about how we risk damnation unless we repent of certain sins, are not part of the "inclusion and diversity" that they claim to champion.

This man hurt no one with his words. He did not call for violence or mistreatment of homosexuals, atheists, or any of the other groups he listed.

He simply stated his belief that certain sins, if not repented of and turned away from, can lead to Hell.

If these people really believed in "diversity and inclusion," they would make room for the freedom to voice those beliefs.

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