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Chunichi Dragons fans chant 'Let A-bomb drop' on Hiroshima Carp

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Well that’s a new low, Jesus Christ.

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Not that I have ever suspected *ball games fans to be intelligent beings to begin with, so...

-13 ( +9 / -22 )

A slip of the tongue is one thing. Chanting that vulgarity as a group is despicable.

16 ( +17 / -1 )

Rival fans dissing the other team's fans?! NO WAY! Seriously, get a life.

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

Who do they think they are, Premier League supporters?

15 ( +18 / -3 )

I have been to almost all the Baseball stadia in Japan, but not Nagoya.

Going to keep it that way I guess.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

I have been to almost all the Baseball stadia in Japan, but not Nagoya.

Which really isn't saying much, considering that there are only 12 pro teams in Japan.

-12 ( +5 / -17 )

For those of you old enough...Warren Cromartie wrote a book called "Slugging it out in Japan". Even back in the 80s the fans in Nagoya were considered to be the most hostile....it appears nothing has changed

14 ( +14 / -0 )

It happened at the game Chunichi Dragons lost to Hiroshima Carp. It is not a big issue.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

If a Japanese ball team have a game against an American team and the American team lose terribly to a Japanese team, I am not surprised an American fan would say "Drop an A bomb again to Japan." It can happen inside the ball park. I know the atmosphere at the ball parks.

-17 ( +5 / -22 )

Human nature rears its ugly head again.

Had non-Japanese said this, there would be complete outrage. It's interesting, to me at least, that Japanese people will say it too though when egged on by some minor sports-based tribalism. I say "interesting" in the sense of being an insight into what people are like. It is not something I approve of.

13 ( +14 / -1 )

Oh come on, it's just a chant to distract the other team, some people are way too sensitive

-13 ( +6 / -19 )

I know the atmosphere at the ball parks.

What exactly is that supposed to mean? That the rest of us don't and you know better so it's fine? What was said was disgusting, regardless of nationality, ethnicity or whatever. Why anyone would use this as a point to boost themselves up on an online forum is baffling.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

A new low.

I can see a non Japanese taunting them that way, but never would I have imagined a fellow Japanese person saying such insensitive things. The decline in moral values continues.

0 ( +6 / -6 )

Ball parks are for fanatic fans, it is a place where they can release their extreme feelings which they cannot do in the ordinary society. I do not think A-bomb things is a good one but there are many sarcastic jokes exchanged at the stadium. I enjoyed some of them. Long time ago, there was a slugger Osugi with a team owned by Marui an installment payment company, a supporter of the opposition team jeered him when he appeared, "Hey, Osugi did you get your wife on monthly installment?" People around me burst into laughter.

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

Sounds like desperate fans. Chunichi's in last place, and they usually are, and it seems the dirtbags will chant anything. Pretty low fellow countrymen if you ask me.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

That's pretty low and nobody thinks it's funny.

11 ( +11 / -0 )

I would call this Trinbalism, and very cheap. Actually violence about baseball it is not new in Japan. I vaguely remember an baseball fan was stabbed to death by a rival fan in a bar somewhere in Tokyo about 30 years ago.

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I wonder what would happen if I was near these fans and screamed back "eh, your just jealous".

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Maybe they are also Philadelphia Eagles fans.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Ball parks are for fanatic fans, it is a place where they can release their extreme feelings which they cannot do in the ordinary society. 

They're also a place where families take their kids, friends hangout and chat and drink crap beer while pretending to watch the game. If people have such extreme feelings perhaps they can find a better place to express themselves.

"Hey, Osugi did you get your wife on monthly installment?" People around me burst into laughter.

Isn't it great that people in society see women as objects to buy at a month fee...

5 ( +6 / -1 )

That's seriously messed up. Nothing to joke about.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

If people are getting triggered over this, I think they will probably have a heart attack to hear what they say about foreigners at football matches lol

-1 ( +7 / -8 )

I have been to a lot of baseball games and never heard such disgusting chants or banter.

The fact that some posters here seem to think it's all ok..just a chant, or part of the sporting experience is rather disturbing.

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Ball parks are for fanatic fans, it is a place where they can release their extreme feelings which they cannot do in the ordinary society. 

They're also a place where families take their kids, friends hangout and chat and drink crap beer while pretending to watch the game. If people have such extreme feelings perhaps they can find a better place to express themselves. 

"Hey, Osugi did you get your wife on monthly installment?" People around me burst into laughter.

Isn't it great that people in society see women as objects to buy at a month fee...

Jeering is for better or worse is part of the fan culture of baseball and football.

Sometimes the jeers are a little more colorful than “You suck!” and some of the worst hecklers are other kids at little league games.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Jeering is for better or worse is part of the fan culture of baseball and football.

Sometimes the jeers are a little more colorful than “You suck!” and some of the worst hecklers are other kids at little league games.

So you condone this then?

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Trash.

The best response to this kind of thing would be for the online Carp community to come up with a belter of a chant or chants for next time.

No need to sink to this kind of level but keep it naughty.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Horrible. I hope they can eventually identify them (appealing for help from the fans around them if necessary), and ban them for life from attending any professional sports venues. This is horrific jeering, and should not be tolerated with a "please everyone avoid doing this" announcement.

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Not to excuse the language of the Dragons fans, but Carp fans can be pretty nasty as well.

I remember a few years ago when I was in Hiroshima, a game was playing at the small Izakaya I was at.

The Carp lost the game, and a man in the corner did a small fist pump and silent “yatta.”

He was thrown out and nearly stripped naked by the other patrons.

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Gobshyts.

I was aware of such idiocy cropping up over the years in the J. League football which is sad but it's not venting or amusing bants, it's offensive.

Like the anti-Semitic chants that dragged some Chelsea "fans" down to a new low

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41216477

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Now that's cold. They must also be Yankees fans.......

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Well that escalated pretty quickly!

Considering the scale of the tragedy always thought the A bombs were a 'japan thing' rather than Nagasaki or Hiroshima-only.

Bit like a red-head having a go at a strawberry-blonde. You're in the same camp folks!

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sports-based tribalism

Nice turn of phrase. I find pro sports fanatics completely absurd. At best it's an opiate for the masses, at worst tribalism. People are cheering on players as though they have some connection to them. They don't. I wouldn't be surprised if some players for the Dragons are actually from Hiroshima.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

How soon we forget about the horrors of war.

Sad statement or chant coming from this generation.

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have been to almost all the Baseball stadia in Japan, but not Nagoya.

Can't blame an entire fan base on a few losers and on the road for that matter. I have been to Nagoya Dome as a visiting Hanshin fan and the fans are friendly.

In fact, I am Kyocera Dome now to see Tigers vs Dragons. Don't worry, we will crush the Dragons for you guys tonight.

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This is not unique to Chunichi fans, or Japanese fans, or baseball fans. Sports fandom - while often a fun and wonderful thing - can cause some people to wrongly feel it is a "safe haven" for their darker and more taboo thoughts and feelings. Look at all the instances of crowds' racism and xenophobia, just as a starting point. I'm an avid Japanese baseball fan, and I've been jeered in stadiums for being a "stupid foreigner," just for wearing the wrong team's uniform or cap.

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I find Chants rather disturbing no matter whatever the sport.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

I feel sorry too for the Dragons who themselves had to half-apologize for their fans' lack of dignity and try to persuade these to have more sense. Just bought a book on common sense and such like things "not taught in primary schools....."

0 ( +0 / -0 )

There are always insensitive fans everywhere...

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Ball parks are for fanatic fans, it is a place where they can release their extreme feelings which they cannot do in the ordinary society.

@Schopenhauer - you can be a fanatic fan without degrading yourself as less than a human being.

By your logic you'd be okay with German fans chanting about the Holocaust vs Poland?

There are lines not to be crossed, and this was one example.

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Absolutely vile evil and grotesque phrases used involving nuclear war crimes holocaust victims and references to the genocide of innocent Japanese people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

We urge the paper and the fans to immediately cease and desist and withdraw the headline.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Maybe they are also Philadelphia Eagles fans.

Yep. Philadelphia fans can be extreme.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Wednesday night at the Liverpool Anfield Stadium, European Cup game against Manchester City, 60,000 gobs and not a silent one which instills fear in the opposition. The Liverpool fans are the 12th man.

Let’s hope for a bit of noise from the Everton supportes at Goodison tomorrow...

I think you can overstep the mark with chants. Chants about people who were killed are just not on. Trash. Racist chants are also disgusting.

My favourite chants are the self-deprecating ones. I remember Man City fans in the days before the cash rolled in chanting “We’re s### and we’re sick of it”.

Beautifully simple.

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