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yorkiebob
People are talking about swastikas
because their display in Japan is more evidence of Japanese ignorance of what such Nazi regalia stand for / symbolize.
Mlodinow
I don't know why many people are commenting about swastika, the article says the flag is similar to the SS symbol (as per Raw Beer's link). To me, it looks exactly like the stylized SS symbol used by the nazis. Which doesn't make any sense of course: nazis believes that non-aryans are sub-human, and Japanese are obviously not aryan. It's kind of like if ISIS started waving flags with the star of david on them. Weird.
yorkiebob
One of the decorations of an apartment building lobby in Gotokuji, Tokyo, is a framed swastika.
mmwkdw
Agreed with "Dango bong"... the Himawari is still flown by the Armed Services within Japan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag
It would have been useful to have seen pictures of the symbols/flags that these supporters used, though the crooked cross is historically used by Buddhists:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35349619
As for why anyone would wish to show off either at an internal (Japan vs Japan) Soccer match is a bit confusing.
Tallboy
Even my gf wears a decent Totenkopf mark on her sheer underwear, this insignia smiles so cute.
Dango bong
yet this flag is on every Japanese vessel.
pacint
Blank here, the SS used armanen runes.
Raw Beer
Does anyone know what reason or excuse the have to use this symbol? Is there anything in the name of the team, city ... that would require two S's?
pacint
Somewhat looks like Schutzstaffel(SS) insignia.
Raw Beer
I Googled it see what it looked like, found this:
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/sports/2017/05/11/japans-gamba-fined-17500-over-nazi-flag/
It's not the swastika...
I really don't agree with fining the team for this.
pacint
Japan uses the Manji/Swastika, Nazis used the Hakenkreuz.
Manji rests on an arm(both facings), Hakenkreuz is rotated 45 degrees to rest on a point/corner.
Similar easily mistaken like the rising sun flag. IJA had the sun centered, IJN is off-centre towards the lanyard.
FightingViking
Don't know if this is the same story but the one I saw had two Z's intertwined which is the symbol for many Japanese temples - the Swastika is two S's intertwined, not two Z's...
Masahiro512
@Jimizo: +10 for ya ;)
Jimizo
Depends on the club. Some clubs are notorious for this kind of thing. Most aren't. I get the sense it's idiots inspired by watching other idiots do it at other games.
Wakarimasen
What is it with football supporters and nationalistic or "right wing" symbols?
thepersoniamnow
Told you guys. I went to every home Game in 2015-16, and there were some interesting characters there.