Mori scolded by wife, daughter after saying women talk too much at meetings

If anyone's talking to much, it seems that Mori's the prime candidate. Perhaps there should be some rules implemented to restrict what he says?

Stupid old dinosaur. His archaic views, and those of his ilk, do not belong in the 21st century.

How much money are they funnelling off to themselves in shady corporations though?

Every so often the ‘real Japan’ appears through the cracks. Get these dinosaurs out of these positions and show them their views and attitudes are no longer required.

Japan today;

"We have about seven women at the organizing committee but everyone understands their place."

Asian Nikkei:

"We have about seven women on our (Olympic) committee," Mori said. "They are experienced in international arenas. That's why their talk is sophisticated, gets to the point, and they are very useful."

Me: somebody is crossing the line with free translation.

Women need to speak up MORE to get people like this OUT of power.

Disgusting.

@Jax

Both articles are completely different.

That is really interesting...

Also, all those titles of the articles... Very clickbeity... Tabloid like.

But then again everybody does it...

Another dinosaur from Oyaji Inc. who needs a proper good kicking as means to understand that evolution is coming for people like him.

Brought to you by those who installed the LDP (the US), as well as those who have continued to vote the LDP into power, the Japanese people themselves (easily influenced by the media and herd instincts).

MORI RESIGNATION EXPECTED !

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This can of man is absolutely unable to find solution for anything that need real competences even less an olympic world wide solution. They use women as scapegoat to hide their own shortcoming.

During a meeting, you usually do the "table round". Every one say what he think or proposed.

Women can be more defensive. But there is two causes: the man leading the meeting is a tyran playing division to rule and seeking excuses to fire women; the other one, the women are selected for their talent in bed instead of leadership.

In the end, Mori made serious professional mistakes to affirm women have nothing to apport to solution solving if they are found not useful during a meeting.

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Science note

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It is well known that you need a creative and open mind to find executive solution at the international level. This is the most difficult decision making to create. And olympic carry human values that ask even more intelligence. With this position on women, it is obvious Mori can't find solution and seek scapegoat to explain the delay.

I am sure he expect himself to have soon an intuition. I was the same after a concussion. Instead of having it during the meeting, it was coming with a delay a few days to a few weeks later. The more the problem to solve is big, the more delay was needed. On shot terme, it is better if men prepare the file because they are monothinkers when women a polythinkers. But the solution without the women part is always too short.

In the end, as usual, the man is not good for the job and start to eliminate proposals because he can't deal with women ideas. He accuses women for his own short mind coming.

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NadAge

Mori, it's you who talk too much (and gets backlash).

And this is Japans choice as President of the organising Olympic committee? Not sure where the blame lies, with him or those who chose him. At 83, fighting a terminal illness he does sum up the Tokyo games so that worked out. Those women? His tea cup has been empty for 3min and instead of filling it they are talking as if anybody cares what they say. 2021 Japan style.

Tokyo 2020 chief Mori says women talk too much

Lmao is this guy for real?

Japan is stuck in the past

Japan is stuck in the past

In too many ways. For a number of those older male Japanese, there is no cure for being a jerk.

Can Japan embarrass itself any more?

"We have about seven women at the organizing committee but everyone understands their place."

Wow. . .

What an idiot.

**Well said, sisters! **@girl_in_tokyo & Nadège 07:34 am JST

Someone better fire Mori from his job before he speaks another ridiculous word. JOC didn't need him from the beginning.

Resign already before those bandages and masks cover your whole body. Come to think of it, that might be a good idea.

RETIRE!

Mori should know from experience.

This decaying zombie needs to be silenced. Whatever little useless life is left in him, strap it to a wheel chair and roll him into an old folks home.

And this idiot is in charge of the Olympics...Oh dear..

When he was PM, this Mori dope was described by the media as having "the heart of a flea and the brain of a shark."

I think thats being really unfair to fleas and sharks.

Sack the dumb old fossil.

That’s common sense and hasn’t been changed for tens of thousands of years. It’s even become part of genetically imprinted behavior differences. How that, what reason was responsible for that? Well....Men were on the hunt or on war or discovering unknown new areas outside and therefore silently communicating with only a very few words and gestures while women as well as the children were at the same time safe in the tribe’s caves or huts, talking much and loudly about anything , like cooking, daily life, education, childbirth and such simple and local topics. Only nearing enemy tribes or dangerous wild animals could force them to temporarily stop talking. lol

The man is a sexist dinosaur. Not a good look for Japan, or those from the IOC who laughed.

When it comes to idiotic comments by Japanese politicians, Aso and Mori are in a class by themselves.

They do, and so do men.

Sorry, it will take more time to change things.

@marcelito 8:29a JST “Nice one, hope international press gives this due attention so the world can see... "Japan".- ||“...everyone understands their place."

Jax

Japan today;

"We have about seven women at the organizing committee but everyone understands their place."

Asian Nikkei:

"We have about seven women on our (Olympic) committee," Mori said. "They are experienced in international arenas. That's why their talk is sophisticated, gets to the point, and they are very useful."

Me: somebody is crossing the line with free translation.

NHK's (Japanese) reporting seems to be far more in line with the JT article than with the Nikkei's.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210203/k10012848591000.html

Can Japan embarrass itself anymore?

We put Yasuhiro Mori in charge of the Olympics. Trust me, there’s still plenty of opportunity for further embarrassment.

Cant he just be retired to a dark corner in some museum? Or better yet...

We are confused. Are you saying Mori & AsianNikkei were more complimentary to the women on his staff??

*@Bruce Chatwin 9:00a JST **“somebody is crossing the line with free translation.”*

Japan Today; "..about seven women at the organizing committee but everyone understands their place."

*Asian Nikkei: "..about seven women on our committee," Mori said. "...experienced in international arenas. ...their talk is sophisticated, gets to the point, and they are very useful."*

NHK reporting far more in line with the JT article than with the Nikkei's.”

@jax

"We have about seven women on our (Olympic) committee," Mori said. "They are experienced in international arenas. That's why their talk is sophisticated, gets to the point, and they are very useful."

Me: somebody is crossing the line with free translation.

He mentioned several things, some local media they don't want to be show Olympic a bad image, since that's one of their source of revenue.

This one from Asahi that used by Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/02/03/yoshiro-mori-tokyo-olympics-sexist-comments/

“When you increase the number of female executive members, if their speaking time isn’t restricted to a certain extent, they have difficulty finishing, which is annoying,” he said, a

This dinosaur thinks he's so great but all he does is talk.

It's no surprise. Remember when he said that Japan is "kami no kuni" with the emperor at the center when he was PM, 21 years ago?

Typical dinosaur. He probably believes a woman's job at the office is to pour tea for everyone

My (Japanese) wife nearly blew a gasket yesterday when she learned of this dingbat's comments regarding holding the Tokyo Olympic "no matter what the situation is with Covid19".

This morning I'm wondering whether or not to tell her about this latest statement.

Anyway it's getting coverage on several overseas news sites.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/sports/olympics/tokyo-olympics-yoshiro-mori.html

LOL! Interesting way to get out the whole Olympics cluster .

Stupid old sod.

If one (female) member raises her hand to speak, the others all feel the need to speak too. Everyone ends up saying something. So we have to make sure their speaking time is restricted somewhat, or they have difficulty finishing, which is annoying,

I just can't stop laughing! That is exactly how I feel in meetings with Japanese managers.

Men can go on and on as well and often do. it is not a gender issue. Mori was a horrible PM due in part to talking too much, think his approval rating was 5% when he resigned in shame.

This mindset shouldn't be too surprising considering these old fossils were never home to actually interact with their families to begin with.

Perhaps when one woman spoke up, this allowed the other women to then speak up too. There are only 5 females on this important panel. With more women involved, a true balance will emerge for the larger group as a whole.

Another comedy gold medal for Mori.

It's called a Meeting Agenda. You document beforehand what will be discussed by who in a set time limit. Then you have someone, usually a timekeeper or gatekeeper, moderate the meeting so you stick to the agenda and stay on time. Yes I know.....a Meeting Agenda is considered to be a foreign practice and basically unheard of in Japan companies and organizations because it's considered to be unnecessary........

I’ve been to many Japanese business meetings. The only one who speaks is the leader. Everybody else just sits there and nods while they are struggling to stay awake. Women should not be silenced in Japan. In fact, women should run Japan. Kick all those cronies out of parliament and give the women a go. Japanese women are much better educated and run rings around the men in management, sports and education. No wonder Japan has such a strong prejudice against successful women. The men are afraid of them. .

He should retire asap.

Time to shut this clown up for good.

Interesting. Mori should submit his research findings, since all studies about this up to now have shown that in meetings, men actually speak more than they think they do; and men think women speak more than they actually do.

But hey, here comes Mori to show them he knows better. Again.

Yoshiro Mori would be wise to take his own advice.

There is always the prospect of an impromptu press conference Mori gaff, I suspect that is the main reason the media turn up. 

Necessary to prevent the spread of the Covid-19, the mask makes little difference in preventing Mori san from expelling utter gibberish at will.

Mori should shut up and bring me a cup of tea.

Another case of foot in mouth from a member of oyaji inc.

lol

This guy is a *riot!

(*as in a complete embarrassment to Japan)

We are confused. Are you saying Mori & AsianNikkei were more complimentary to the women on his staff??

NHK's reporting echoes that of Reuters and Japan Today. Nikkei is the outlier in this case; Nikkei's reporting seems to be distorting Mori's comments. The NHK reporting in Japanese is at the link below:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210203/k10012848591000.html

その上で、自身が会長や名誉会長を歴任した日本ラグビー協会で女性の理事が増えていることを例にあげ「今までの倍、時間がかかる。女性というのは競争意識が強い。誰か1人が手をあげて言うと自分も言わなきゃいけないと思うのだろう。それでみんな発言する」などと述べました。

This guy was useless as a PM way back when. And he's useless now. Retire already.

Someone get this old sack of skin and bones resembling a human something to stuff his mouth with. Nothing but gibberish seems to be leaking out.

Japanese women should speak out more.

This could be a good thing. He could use it as a “save face” and stop the 2020 Superspreader Olympic Games. He can get his golden parachute and we can stop mass deaths of the elderly.

This walking cadaver needs to quit immediately and not receive another penny from the trough he's had his snout in for the last six decades.

The man's a disgrace. He's always been a laughing stock.

I was here when he bumbled through his period at PM, and left with single-digit approval ratings. Why the hell does he get a say in anything?

We've carried you long enough, you risible old buffoon. Get out and walk.

What a dropkick...!

And what’s on his hands/wrists? Are they long johns or..?

Just another thought. He was a failed PM. He got that job. The position will be empty. What other failed (twice) PM could take his place? Foreigners find Mario quite cute...

Resign?

There is a Gaffe hit parade, get in the queue, Mori san

There is history.....from 2011....

Japan's gaffe-prone politicians....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-14026657

Besides, nothing come close to the UK royals

Prince Philip.... 

"Do you still throw spears at each other?".....Best leave that one alone

Another toe curler**, **quote

During a tour of a Scottish factory in August 1999, he reportedly said a fuse box was so crude that it "looked as though it had been put in by an Indian". He later clarified his comment: "I meant to say cowboys. I just got my cowboys and Indians mixed up."

Age, both ends of the spectrum, never leave them unattended.

I beg to differ. At many of the meetings I have to attend at work the women usually can't get a word in edgewise.

If he's removed from the Olympic Committee - and all other positions of responsibility - he won't have to go to any more of those tedious meetings.

LOL. Women talk too much. Hmm. I think he's referring to those Obasan talk. I tolerate that everyday, Mr Mori.

*sarcasm

Yeah, who gave them women the right to talk! They should stay in the kitchen, be housewifes. Now they talk. What comes next? Will they be allowed to drive cars, think for themselves or even given the right to vote?!?! The world is not ready for that, it's still 19th century!!!!

/sarcasm end

He's a sexist dinosaur jerk who kept stuck way in the past

Many people talk too much, problem lies when someone notices only a certain group

Congratulations to Today’s Winner: @Nadègen 7:34a JST “MORI RESIGNATION EXPECTED ! °

If so...Japan again moves ahead with its ‘Great Example to the World’ campaign. ”Score ‘One’ for Japan!”

(Watch now! 6am: This story was shuffled to Today’s Sports section ; 6pm: It will move to the Front Page.)

Beyond that, resigning will avoid him to take responsibility for cancelling the Olympics.

At 83, he has better to start gardening.

How can an idiot like this be in the public eye?

But what care home would take him.....?

Sneaky. Exiting the ballroom and heading to the lifeboats before anyone notices.

Prehistoric dinosaurs talk too much.....

I think he is confusing his colleagues with the ladies at the hostess clubs. He is a fairly old guy. Just laugh it off and keep doing your jobs. He was raised in a different era. We should be tolerant and not cancel him just because he isn’t up with the latest Twitter hashtag campaign. Someday we will all get old - the times will change again and the current wokesters will be the ones living in the past.

Just having a bit of a moan and saying how he feels, what's the problem, we do have free speech, it's not hate speech after all

When something has been said during meetings, some prefer not to be repetitive and therefore don't repeat what has already been said. Others value less the efficiency of meetings but value more confirmation and the reaffirming of points made. Still there are those who like to be heard and will chime in just to show they've spoken. There are definitely those who talk too much during meetings male or female.

what's the problem, we do have free speech

No problem. We can all use our free speech to express our outrage at Mori.

This is an instance where someone should only open their mouth to change feet.

He is done, and fully aware of it. Just justifying his "Mori has left the building" exit character. Times up, Mori - there's the door!

Hilarious! *@Carl Smith Today 12:31p JST “Sneaky. Exiting the ballroom and ‘heading to the lifeboats’ before anyone notices.”*

And..., here’s the ‘tip of the iceberg’...

*”J non-profit paid $1.3 million by the Tokyo Olympic bid committee ...shut down all its activities ....December (2020) The JigoKano Sport Institute, run by former Japanese prime minister Yoshiro Mori, did not provide a reason for ceasing activities”.*

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14137824

What an old fart. Fart from his mouth, I guess.

I think Mori tried to find an easy way out of this whole Olympic boondoggle by getting himself kicked out.

he was "scolded" for his remarks by his wife, his daughter and granddaughter.

Exactly that reaction even more supports the theories too. lol

When you have a leadership class that surround themselves with timid , subjugated “YES-men” that will do their bidding no matter how ridiculous it may be, then this is the result. People are supposed to be talked AT and not TO. In fact they probably don’t know the difference.

Everyone suffers under these old guys that should’ve had the sense to step aside and let a younger, hungrier , smarter generation take the reigns. But not in Japan by the looks. Underlings selectied carefully through their obedience to the absurd.

Plenty of fodder for Renzo to do her usual, but we all know nothing can nor will change. It’s entrenched.

Oh! Wait! Here comes the ‘back peddling’! It’s 12:30p JST and his script is changing!

On the thoughts of resignation: “Mori plans to speak at 2pm to explain & apologize, Nippon TV reported.”

Perhaps he will say "*Last night, my wife, my daughter and granddaughter gave me a thorough scolding...So, THAT should be enough to satisfy YOU women, right? *I choose not to resign, at this time.”

Well that sounds like more than enough punishment. How quaint. On with the Olympics!

And they always want to talk about their "feelings."

"Let's talk about our re la tion ship..."

I agree with him.

Mori can play no useful role in public life. This superannuated member of the antediluvian LDP Dinosaur Club should have been put out to pasture long ago. His inane comments over the years condemn him as a person undeserving of serious attention and this latest outburst belittling women when they attend meetings belies the reality that it is usually overbearing Japanese men who dominate the discussions with their endless prattle prolonging meetings well past their sell-by date.

Abe did the same thing twice every time he was about to get embarrassed for corruption or incompetence as PM.

Expect Mori to make few more screw ups as he looks for a way to "bow out" of JOC before they cancel the 2020 Olympics.

He should resign.

I reckon what he said, quoted in Japanese above, is a resigning offence.

It would have been offensive well over twenty years ago, so he's had plenty of chance (i.e., twenty plus years) to get with the program.

It is also pointless to have committees and meetings if people's opinions and concerns are not welcome. That is incompetent leadership.

Mori, Mori, Mori............time to just walk away into the sunset and disappear.

I know you're stuck in 1921, but the rest of the world isn't.

And what is with your wrapped up little hands? Did you get hurt doing nothing all day?

"We have about seven women at the organizing committee but everyone understands their place."

Really Mori? Everyone?

Because you know all dinosaurs are underground, resting as bones, right? You probably should go join them.

Take your little Olympic Medals too.

And they always want to talk about their "feelings."

"Let's talk about our re la tion ship..."

I agree with him.

@Peter Neil Yeah everyone knows it's much preferable to avoid emotional and constructive conversations about one's relationship.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Partner of the Year!

Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games Organizing Committee President Yoshiro Mori role is nothing more than symbolic, contractually Mori san is, with respect irrelevant.

As Mori san, protestations that women talk too much.

"Last night, my wife gave me a thorough scolding," Mori was quoted by the Mainichi as saying. "She said: 'You've said something bad again, haven't you? I'm going to have to suffer again because you've antagonized women.' This morning, my daughter and granddaughter scolded me as well."

yr Grandmother once stated there is no fool like an old fool.

I would be more concerned about how, or who nominated Mori san for the position in the first place, considering his track record of foot in mouth disease

What the olympic international comite say ? Normally they ask for his resignation. He is left the time to offer it and live with his dishonor.... But there is no way (but by paying again ?) to manage to silence the olympic international comite protecting the olympic spirit.

International Community: “We need to cancel the Olympics.”

Japanese citizens: “We need to cancel the Olympics.”

Mori: “Fine. I’ll do it myself.”

Well. Certainly, Mori talks too much. He along with his atavistic cohorts need to be put out to pasture. ALL of them within his cohort are an impediment to women and gender equality. There are so many intelligent and talented women in Japan, who are not given access to forms of leadership and power. Mori and his band of lackeys are a central reason for this problem.

Yoshiro Mori remaining in position/post is untenable.

Yoshiro Mori appears frail and frankly ailing.

For the sake of his family it is time to retire/resign.

I don't really think that. I just wanted to put out an opposing view...

And, ... Today’s diversion is over... 7am Olympic Chief Mori says....;

10:30am ...he may need to resign,...; 2pm ‘I’m not going anywhere’ (BTW: Thanks for the $$$)

*Sorry, @girl_in_tokyo & Nadège 7:34 am JST. *It WILL take more time to change things.

Yes. @marcelito 8:29a JST “..the world can see...|| -.”Japan".- || “...everyone understands their place."

We should be tolerant and not cancel him just because he isn’t up with the latest Twitter hashtag campaign. 

Do you use Twitter? I don’t use Twitter so I missed it. Still, I’ve always been anti idiot so it’s not new for me.

I thought there were laws against discrimation and hate speech ?

I thought there were laws against discrimation and hate speech ?

Unfortunately there are no laws against innate stupidity and senility.

Of course age is purely a number.

Mori san knew full well this would cause a controversy.

My J Grandmother could deliver a masterclass at how to push the agitative irritative annoyance threshold to breaking point. Shop assistants would recoil in terror.

It was all deliberate, and in doing so reminded those affected that Grandma was still a force to be reckoned with. Why should Mori be any different?

The bigger issue on J-TV wide shows this afternoon is not the comments he made but the realization that "kaigai no hito" people overseas via their media know what has happened.

This is so ridiculous. No one is more efficient at work and more eager to wrap up meetings quickly than moms of young kids.

Mori san knew full well this would cause a controversy.

His way of bowing out of the Olympic storm? You credit him too much.

He’s just a mindless old goat. He’s been saying stupid stuff for as long as I’ve been aware of him and I’ve been in Japan a looong time.

Great for those ladies. Age does not give you a pass to be a sexist or something else. Of course, he knew well what he was saying.

They're probably keeping him as figurehead until things turn truly pear-shaped, at which point he will be the one to take responsibility, bow in disgrace, and accept the ignominious axe.

With a nice retirement bonus.

In the meantime there is probably no-one else who wants that job, so they're probably warning him to keep it buttoned for just a little longer.

All the same Mori san has to go voluntarily. I think Mori san is daring officialdom to compel him to.

'You've said something bad again, haven't you? I'm going to have to suffer again because you've antagonized women"

The words of a long suffering spouse.

Japan is an advanced country...

This gaffe will get out to the IOC and then into the world media-the eccentric, unique and strange Japanese image propelled into the 21st century.....ad Astra!

Bob, I have empathy, misguided as it may seem, for Yoshiro Mori, however Mori san will have to step down.

My empathy stems from my J Grandmother,

Age is life’s deal breaker.

In the later stages of life, the finality of one fragility, of the approaching passing, as the bodies fallibly leaves one at the humility of being washed and nursed is a crushing experience.

Mori san, should never have been afforded the responsibly of Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games Organizing Committee President.

However, let’s not bury, an old goat, at the behest of the man’s dignity

And now no women will want to be involved with anything Mori is connected with.

Age is life’s deal breaker. 

In the later stages of life, the finality of one fragility, of the approaching passing, as the bodies fallibly leaves one at the humility of being washed and nursed is a crushing experience.

I worked as an auxiliary nurse in a retirement home for 7 years before moving to Japan. I’ve washed and cared for plenty of elderly, seen all you could imagine and more. They had more dignity.

That has nothing at all to do with this old goat. As I’ve mentioned before, Mori as a fool decades ago and if he has any dignity left he would have stepped down.

But he doesn’t so we have to suffer this fool a little longer.

Bob, to be honest, I did not have your nursing skills or experience,

Could I humbly suggest, also the unique idiosyncratic political disconnect.

7 years, you deserve recognition.

How is he not fired/removed/resigning already!?

*"Last night, my wife gave me a thorough scolding," Mori was quoted by the Mainichi as saying. "She said: 'You've said something bad again, haven't you? I'm going to have to suffer again because you've antagonized women.' This morning, my daughter and granddaughter scolded me as well." *The old blame the wife and daughter lie after the fact.

Why is an 83 year old in an important political office?

Force him to resign, this is beyond ridiculous

"Mmm. Talk too much at home too."

- Mori's inner dialogue.

Can some one be this insensitive? or does he suffer from "Tourettse syndrome?"

"I'm going to have to suffer again because you've antagonized women.' This morning, my daughter and granddaughter scolded me as well."

TOP TIP" listen to them! they are telling you something.

Given the press coverage this is getting, I think the Japanese must see this as the worst thing to happen to the country in 10 years.

Well.......

WolfpackFeb. 4  12:37 pm JST

I think he is confusing his colleagues with the ladies at the hostess clubs. He is a fairly old guy. Just laugh it off and keep doing your jobs. He was raised in a different era. We should be tolerant and not cancel him just because he isn’t up with the latest Twitter hashtag campaign. Someday we will all get old - the times will change again and the current wokesters will be the ones living in the past.

You think it's all right then, to keep an old, confused man in such a prominent role where his gaffes draw huge amounts of media attention and cause embarrassment to the whole country? I think it would give a somewhat better impression if the organising committee was headed up by someone younger who didn't say stupid things and got coverage for making smart decisions and getting stuff done. Then the only people who would have to be tolerant would be his family and presumably the other rich old men he hangs out with at various exclusive functions and expensive restaurants.

He’s right. He shouldn’t say it so directly, but he’s right. Women have for so long been sitting in the background, they over compensate these days to get their word in. Not all but some can’t stop once they start talking. This is both understandable and sometimes annoying.

Simultaneously men use meetings as information dispersal. Not a chance for everyone to speak.

Clearly one of these is worse.

He’ll be gone within days.

This is still news? He was useless when I first heard of him, why is he still anywhere near authority?

He is a Dinosaur! A remnant of the dark past and needs to be retired to a museum.