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Djokovic, Barty confirmed as No. 1 seeds for Australian Open

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By DENNIS PASSA

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Why set up a double-standard just for him? Send him home and treat him like everyone else. That’s the fair thing to do.

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Go Novak, stand your ground mate.

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Nice to know there is still someone capable to fight for freedom.

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Why set up a double-standard just for him? Send him home and treat him like everyone else. That’s the fair thing to do.

Vaccinations don't stop the spread of the disease, so there is no justification to mandate them - that is common sense. All the vax can do is make it more likely you will suffer milder symptoms, so it's a question of personal risk, particularly in the case of young, healthy individuals who have a minimal chance of suffering anything more than mild symptoms to begin with.

The Australian public was Gaslit from the beginning into thinking draconian lockdowns were the solution - just look at all the trash in the Australian media like "wow, look how well Australia is doing!", "we're all in it together" as well as the vilification of those who questioned the lockdowns and vax mandates.

Now, the Australians that have been forced to suffer through this view the Djokovic situation like a cranky child - "we were punished, why isn't he!". It's very sad that this is the prevailing view in the country.

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Expect massive booing and at the same time massive cheers, then let the fights start - this is part of the great divide orchestrated by.....

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@Rob Nads "Vaccinations don't stop the spread of the spread of the disease so there's not justification to mandate them . . . "

But Rob, according to the Center of Disease Control website:

"COVID-19 vaccines can reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19."*

Are you saying that I should take your word over that of doctors and scientists at the CDC? It probably has something to do with the viral loads an unvaccinated person would carry compared to a vaccinated person. Also, while we're on the subject, can you believe that Djokovich attended social functions, including one for children, when he knew he'd tested positive for COVID-19? Not very considerate, wouldn't you say?

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@stormcrow - Read carefully - I said "don't stop the spread". This is fact.

COVID-19 is endemic, so it should be treated like the common cold or flu. When I tested positive, I didn't stop going about my daily activities - still went to the gym, supermarket, etc.

But all of that is beside the point. The real issue here is that the attempts to keep Joker out of the country are purely for the purpose of political point-scoring. The Australian public are vindictive and incapable of logical thinking on this matter.

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@Rob Nads:

The Australian public is vindictive? In a poll taken the other day by the centre-left Age/SMH, the Australian public indicated by a margin of 59 to 37 percent that it thought Djokovic should be allowed to stay in the country and play in the Open. You seem utterly incapable of logical thinking or objectivity when it comes to anything to do with Australia, and it undercuts every point you try to make.

And on your other point, your admission that you tested positive to Covid and yet still went to the gym, etcetera, without giving a damn about passing it on to others, is as good an illustration as any as to why most people really, really don’t like anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers.

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Go Nole go and win!

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Like all vaccine deniers Novak is a liar who lied on his visa application.

He claimed to have been infected when he was out and about mingling with people.

Then there are the trips to Spain and Serbia which he conveniently forgot to mention but was stupid enough to get photographed.

The best he can hope for is a deportation, though he should be prosecuted and never allowed in Australia again!

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is as good an illustration as any as to why most people really, really don’t like anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers.

Anti vax mandate does not equal anti-vax (I am vaxxed)

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Djoke is going to be deported, possibly tomorrow. He lied on his immigration documents and is now desperately backtracking, claiming "human error". What nonsense.

Kick him out!

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Anti vax mandate does not equal anti-vax (I am vaxxed)

That really doesn't matter, does it? After all you, said it yourself at 9.29 am...

"Vaccinations don't stop the spread of the disease"

But they do slow it down. They make it less serious. And even then, containing the spread of the disease and its effects is considerably assisted if those who have it, vaccinated or not, stay home while they're infectious. You would have had no idea, while walking around shedding your viral load, just who you were shedding it all over, or what their personal circumstances were... a sick or elderly relative at home? A medical exemption?

so there is no justification to mandate them

Behaviour like yours is an example of why mandates to control the spread of Covid are justified.

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You would have had no idea, while walking around shedding your viral load, just who you were shedding it all over, or what their personal circumstances were... a sick or elderly relative at home? A medical exemption?

At this stage, it's endemic. Everyone will catch it eventually. So it doesn't matter what I did.

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Everyone will catch it eventually. So it doesn't matter what I did.

Well, you can tell yourself that. The truth is, you don't know. Which is kind of the point, really.

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@stormcrow - Read carefully - I said "don't stop the spread". This is fact.

That is not an argument, antibiotics do not stop people dying from bacterial infections, so there is no point in using them? how about seat belts? do people no longer die anymore on traffic accidents?

If a measure is safe and effective at reducing risk for other people then it is justified to use it with that purpose, even if it is not 100% effective.

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That is not an argument, antibiotics do not stop people dying from bacterial infections, so there is no point in using them?

Are people forced to take antibiotics? No.

Well, you can tell yourself that.

I did. I sleep perfectly well at night. Even more so knowing that I'm not stuck in Australia.

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Vaccinations don't stop the spread of the disease, so there is no justification to mandate them - that is common sense. All the vax can do is make it more likely you will suffer milder symptoms, so it's a question of personal risk

Backwards thinking Rob. Anything that limits the spread as vaccines are proven to do, and make infections milder and less deadly, is justification for a mandate on vaccinations.

particularly in the case of young, healthy individuals who have a minimal chance of suffering anything more than mild symptoms to begin with.

Variants have show greater ability to make the young sick and die. Future variants could be even worse. Your willingness to gamble with the lives of others is disturbing.

At this stage, it's endemic. Everyone will catch it eventually. So it doesn't matter what I did.

No, it is not yet endemic but your desire to make is so is also backwards and disturbing.

The Australian public was Gaslit from the beginning into thinking draconian lockdowns were the solution - just look at all the trash in the Australian media like "wow, look how well Australia is doing!"

Australia had a zero policy and yes we did do an outstanding job. It was not until the few anti lockdown clowns chose not to follow the instructions any longer that now many more people are dying and have died since zero policy stopped. It's like they want people to get sick and die, thinking always that it wont be them or their family as they eat right and exercise. News Flash Rob, even the healthy are getting sick and dying now. Just like you seem to want.

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"Vaccinations don't stop the spread of the disease"

But they do slow it down.

High vaccination rates are not associated with lower covid cases, especially with the monovalent vaccines.

With Delta, vaccinated and unvaccinated have the same viral load. But the vaccinated apparently have milder symptoms... so who is more likely to spread it?

With Omicron, the differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated is likely less...

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High vaccination rates are not associated with lower covid cases, especially with the monovalent vaccines.

It has been proved scientifically...

...in this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

"Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States (Eur J Epidemiol. 2021 Sep 30 : 1–4).

Findings: "At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people...."

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