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Ford blasts GM 'apocalypse' ad for Super Bowl; Chrysler also under fire

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A low blow for sure.

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"I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove

Oh, well I simply must watch it, then. Anything capable of offending that "delicate flower" must be something, indeed.

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Sounds like a silly ad.

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Clint Eastwood's Chrysler ad was Reagan-esque "Morning in America" re-election ad in 1984.

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“I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove..."

Which means that the commercial was extremely effective and ham head Karl doesn't have anything more intelligent to say than repeat the usual Fox conspiracy theories.

And while I'm neither pro-Chrysler or Ford I predict Ford's legal threats will amount to nothing. What will they argue? That Ford trucks were slandered by claims they wouldn't survive an apocalypse?

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That was pretty messed up. Next SuperBowl Ford will get revenge. Oh look!! The little GM owner needs a bail out. Yeah Chevy didn't have to do that. They should be humble after using the taxpayers money to make their commercials.

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Car Wars?

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I thought the car companies has to pay back their loans - and did so. Guess I missed something. Anyone who drives a GM or Ford is an idiot. Much better trucks out there.

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@tmarie "much better trucks"

Yeah, especially those ones with the campers on the back, also known as a home to the less fortunate.

So are you still driving an old Datsun, or can you reveal the secret names of those much better trucks?

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Tmarie, name 1 better truck than the GM or Fords? What Honda Ridgeline? Its their SUV with the roof cut off. talkin out your better end yet again

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Wow Tmarie takin every chance it can at blasting something american. Ford never took bailout money. Chevy and American Pick up trucks are top in the world. Name one that even compares...especially for the price range.

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Toyota? Popular the world over and aren't nasty gas guzzling beats like fords and GMs - well, not near as bad.

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Toyota? the car company that cant stop? Gets less gas mileage than an F150 because they refuse to accept direct inject technology? oh and the toyota tundra costs $20,000 more than an F150 for less of a truck...try again? Ford and GM trucks are not the trucks of 10 - 15 years ago.

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“I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove, mastermind of George W Bush’s presidential victories, who claimed on Fox News that the commercial was paid for with Chrysler bailout money.

Hey Karl, it was "W" who started the process of bailouts. Imagine, it took an Italian owned company to tell Americans that we can do better and we can work this out by sticking it through, and not the so-called party that is in opposition to the Dems and the socialist aganeda that you guys say Obama and the Dems are pushing every 5 minutes on Fox.

Look, I am no huge supporter for Obama and the Dems, and I do watch Fox, but only take if for what it's worth, but the commercial was good in the point that it is telling us that we can do better. He didn't come out and say that it was going to take a Rep to make it right, nor was he adding on to the "Hope and Change" but what I got from it was along the lines of that famous Dem president and his "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" (JFK).

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All I can say is these are the auto workers who are building these cars:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk

and again a different plant:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/chrysler-workers-in-trenton-caught-smoking-and-drinking-during-lunch-breaks-20110713-dk

Still want to buy American?

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I thought the whole point of an apocalypse is that nobody is driving anything anymore. Not something to look forward to...

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Maybe it was Rapture time; all the Ford drivers and their cars had been taken up to Heaven, leaving the evil GM folk to suffer the consequences of their folly...

But maybe not.

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Now in some religious traditions, rising to heaven in one's body is possible, but I'm not aware of any that let you take the truck...

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I just watched this ad on YouTube. This has to be one of the dumbest ads ever.

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Much could be read into the Eastwood ad, but it was fundamentally about the resurgence of America through cooperation and hard work.

Bah humbug! - the Republican usual suspects snort. An ad made by a private corporation hawking American-made products starring a man not well-known in the least for his socialist tendencies must be some nefarious Obama plot.

A few quotes from a WaPo article:

In 2011, Gallup’s polling showed that President Obama averaged an 80 percent approval rating among Democrats and 12 percent among Republicans....

Gee, I don't think even Bush fell that low amongst Democrats; but still, there is also this:

... political scientist Keith Poole released a study.... According to his highly respected classification system, Obama is the most moderate Democratic president since World War II.

(Read it here:< http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-the-most-polarizing-moderate-ever/2012/02/06/gIQAXsV0uQ_story.html?hpid=z3> )

When Republicans begin turning on Clint Eastwood and the American automobile industry, well - it's not so much that so many have taken leave of their senses, it's that they've strangled them, bludgeoned them bloody, trampled them to bits, lit those on fire, and dumped the remnants in the Fires of Mordor.

Common ground with these folks?! Hah!

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the car company that cant stop? Guess you didn't get the memo on that, eh? Would never, ever buy an American car after all my experiences and family and friends tales of crap quality.

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This is under the sports section, eh? It should be under the crime section.

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tmarie. You must have never owned a Ford.

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Laguna,

When Republicans begin turning on Clint Eastwood and the American automobile industry, well - it's not so much that so many have taken leave of their senses, it's that they've strangled them, bludgeoned them bloody, trampled them to bits, lit those on fire, and dumped the remnants in the Fires of Mordor.

Common ground with these folks?! Hah!

Their wackiness knows no bounds. They constantly vilify President Obama as being a "crony-capitalist socialis" (I still haven't figureed out how the right has wrapped their head around the concept the Pres. Obama is a capitalist and a socialist at the same time. Then again, they can't seem to make up their mind as to whether he's a radical Christian or a Muslim. Nor have they been able to come to a consensus as to whether President Obama is a do-nothing president who is constantly on vacation or a dedicated villain, hellbent on destroying America.

They paint President Obama as a bigger liberal than Abbie Hoffman and their hero Ronald Reagan was as conservative as Ghengis Khan. These are the realities they would have us believe.

"Common ground with these folks?! Hah!"

Not until they can accept the folllowing reality. I can't wait for the first person to claim it was doctored somehow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbJ-Fs1ikA

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“I was, frankly, offended by it,” said Karl Rove, mastermind of George W Bush’s presidential victories, who claimed on Fox News that the commercial was paid for with Chrysler bailout money.

“It is a sign of what happens when ... the president of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising and the best wishes of the management.”

Mr. Rove doesn't have a clue. The Chrysler bailout loans were approved by President GEORGE W. BUSH in 2008, not (then) President-Elect Barack Obama:

On December 19, George W. Bush announced that he had approved the bailout plan, which would give loans of $17.4 billion to U.S. automakers GM and Chrysler, stating that under present economic conditions, "allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action." Bush provided $13.4 billion now, with another $4 billion available in February 2009. Funds would be made available from the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. General Motors would get $9.4 billion, and Chrysler $4 billion.

(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_2008%E2%80%932010_automotive_industry_crisis_on_the_United_States)

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I was, frankly, offended by it, said Karl Rove

Oh, my, isn't Karl a sensitive plant? I wonder if he knows the meaning of the word "hypocrite".

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@Fadamor: completely true. When contacted by the media, G.W. said (quoted last night on NBC news) he approved the bailout loans, and would do the same again. He needs to give Karl a call.

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Ford is heading for Apocalypse Now!

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Dodge has best value with their 5.7 Hemi 390hp. and is the best trucks. Dodge trucks look the best and as for 1/2 ton pickups I think dodge wins because i think the 5.7 liter and 6.0 liter is a better engine then any of the other 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton engines. The 5.7 and 6.0 hemi in the newer dodge 1500's wins.

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Don't cry about it, Ford. Just come up with better ads next time.

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Republicans like Rove are complaining because they were so dead wrong on the auto bailouts. Oh, how they wished GM and Chrysler were driven under so that they could be right and President Obama wrong.

Republicans believe that it is only they who can declare "morning in America." And the nitwit Repubs have now become the real pessimists on America.

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Ford's next ad should show Ford truck drivers riding around heaven, gazing down at Hell, where GM truck drivers are in some post-apocalypse landscape.

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tmarie. You must have never owned a Ford.

I guess that Tempo and van my parents owned weren't Fords... To be honest, my experience with fords is exactly why I will never, ever owe one or even consider driving one. My parents buy Korean and Japanese now after years of paying to fix their crappy American cars.

Must admit, I did like the Saturn but well, petty men and petty pride got in the way of probably the best car the US has ever produced.

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Did we watch the same commercial? I thought that was an advertisement for Twinkies.

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The GM ad is a bit goofy, and shows what appears to be a fallen Azar BigBoy hamburger sign among other things in the rubble. At the end, one of the GM owners offers everyone a Twinkie. Then the frogs start falling. It doesn't leave me with a great impression of either GM trucks or their drivers (no offense to those of you who are), and I suppose that a post-apocalyptic life using up the gas you have left in your truck, eating Twinkies, and running over frogs would not be so idyllic, so I don't think Ford has to worry. I'm really not sure what the message is in this ad...maybe that the trucks are tough and the drivers are goofy.

The Chrysler ad - I didn't find it offensive at all, and it seemed to have a more or less positive message about pulling together. The bailouts happened, certainly, and people have mixed feeling about them, but the ad wasn't focused on assigning blame, just working through difficulties together. Granted the tone may be overly positive in tone, but I didn't really have a problem with that.

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"Don't cry about it, Ford. Just come up with better ads"

Ha ha, the worst Ford ad is way better than this Chevrolet ad.

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This comment ISNT about cars or trucks being made, that said the GM ad was .............. not good, kinda daft, the Chrysler ad was excellent & I have never owned a Chrysler

As for karl rove, he is a NO-CLASS PUTZ, what a loooooooooooooooser!

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Republicans like Rove are complaining because they were so dead wrong on the auto bailouts. Oh, how they wished GM and Chrysler were driven under so that they could be right and President Obama wrong.

??? I guess you didn't read my post above. It was (the Republican) President George W. Bush who approved the loans, not Obama. If anything, the Republicans should be thanking their stars that the bailout worked. It's just Karl Rove who appears to have forgotten what was happening three and a half years ago.

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It's halftime, and with this rookie QB we have we're only down by 5 trillion bucks.

But boy can he punt !

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And watch the rookie QB kick the crap out of the other team this fall. They don't even have a QB, just Philly fans.

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