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Hamilton wins British Grand Prix after Verstappen collision

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Right, I'll put my cards down first here; I thought the crash was a racing incident and the penalty was a bit harsh on Hamilton. Max opened the door, then tried to close it when Lewis was coming through it.

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Well done GOAT Sir Lewis! Amazing win against the odds with a penalty. Watch Verstappen start to crumble now.

You got this GOAT!

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Unfortunately I have to agree with Lewis on this one. Max has been very aggressive from the start of several races recently, physically barging Lewis into backing off. He hit Lewis's car once, possibly twice in the seconds before the incident yesterday.

I cannot see any malice in Hamilton's move round the inside, certainly not 'causing' the accident. But the stewards were in a quandary in the face of Christian Horner's wrath, and with the precedence of other incidents where they have awarded penalties recently. Glad Max is ok, and I am sure he will mature further in light of this, although I doubt that this coming-together will have been the last between them this season.

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Oops, forgot to mention Charles Leclerc's magnificent revived Ferrari drive. So close. Heart-warming.

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A great race for the fans. I think the penalty was justified given Max’s DNF, Max’s and Lewis race and championship standings. I don’t think the FIA is at the point of having a quiet word with the both of them…yet.

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So disappointed in Hamilton... as a 7 time champion, he should have known that trying to overtake in THAT corner would cause a problem. "I was beside him" ...in what world? Watching the replay and the pictures it obvious showed that he touched Verstappen's rear tire with his front tire. People write that Verstappen is an aggressive driver, but he hardly doesn't cause accidents, unlike Hamilton. I reckon most ham fans want all riders to drive like Hamilton's team mate. Too bad, aggressive drivers make for interesting racing. Crashing into someone and blame aggressive driving is just transfering the blame....something Hamilton is in the habit of doing

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Crashing into someone and blame aggressive driving is just transfering the blame....something Hamilton is in the habit of doing

Nope. 99 wins and the status of GOAT means Sir Lewis rarely makes a mistake. This was just a racing incident. Verstappen was all over the road in that half lap, the pressure is getting to him lol!

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As he closed the gap to the wall on Lewis, the leading edge of Max's back right tire hit the back of Lewis's front left. That flipped him out.

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Nope. 99 wins and the status of GOAT means Sir Lewis rarely makes a mistake. This was just a racing incident. Verstappen was all over the road in that half lap, the pressure is getting to him lol!

99 wins without any real competition...but now the pressure is on he's starting to make mistakes...LOL!

As he closed the gap to the wall on Lewis, the leading edge of Max's back right tire hit the back of Lewis's front left. That flipped him out.

Meaning that Hamilton wasn't driving beside him, defensive driving is allowed, forcing an accident like Ham did is. 10 sec is just a laughable punishment.

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99 wins without any real competition...but now the pressure is on he's starting to make mistakes...LOL!

We know the real reason why you dislike him enough to suspend reason.

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99 wins without any real competition.

You've just admitted that for over a decade he has been better than all of his peers. Your words, not mine.

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I saw it as a first lap racing incident, 100%. It's a joke to hear Lewis forced the accident, Max made a move and turned into Hamilton. LeClerc said so, and so did others, like Aston Martin's team principle...a clear cut racing incident.

Regardless, Max has been the over aggressor in the history of he and Lewis Hamilton. This will even things out a bit, and could cause Max and RB to implode...they're way to butt hurt at this point, and their thin skin could allow mental supremacy by Mercedes and Hamilton, in spite of having the obviously superior car.

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As a great philosopher once wrote "Haters are gonna hate".

The overtake on LeClerc showed exactly what Verstappen did wrong, both drivers took the corner too fast and both were off the ideal racing line due to Hamilton being on the inside. LeClerc drove wide due to his speed but was able to keep racing, Verstappen decided to cut back on the racing line instead and was met with the front left tyre of Hamilton.

Same situation, two different outcomes.

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And now Hamilton is being racially abused on social media, just like the black England soccer players were after the Euro final. In fact it’s so similar, you have to wonder whether there’s some kind of orchestrated racist campaign going on here. Would not surprise me in the slightest.

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We know the real reason why you dislike him enough to suspend reason.

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You've just admitted that for over a decade he has been better than all of his peers. Your words, not mine

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As a great philosopher once wrote "Haters are gonna hate".

The overtake on LeClerc showed exactly what Verstappen did wrong, both drivers took the corner too fast and both were off the ideal racing line due to Hamilton being on the inside. LeClerc drove wide due to his speed but was able to keep racing, Verstappen decided to cut back on the racing line instead and was met with the front left tyre of Hamilton.

FIA didn't seem to agree with you though, other drivers just keep their mouths shut as they all want to drive for a winning team one day,

And now Hamilton is being racially abused on social media, just like the black England soccer players were after the Euro final. In fact it’s so similar, you have to wonder whether there’s some kind of orchestrated racist campaign going on here. Would not surprise me in the slightest

That's a pity, because it distracts from the fact that he was responsible for the crash.

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To the guy who calls Hamilton the GOAT: Rosberg beat Hamilton to the title in 2016 in equal machinery, by your own standards that means Rosberg is the GOAT. Disagree? Then have Verstappen drive for Mecedes as Hamiltons teammate. Same outcome.

As for Hamilton putting his car in a position to interfere with Verstappens defending line, the FIA promptly penalised him for it. This is the FIA remember, they coddle Hamilton like a homeless child on xmas eve. But not this time. Also watch RBR not let go of this. They'll get Hamilton suspended, or at the very least retract his points for the race.

I'm not sorry breaking up the Hamilton love-in here, the guy is complete clown in and out of the car. Times up for him.

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To the guy who calls Hamilton the GOAT: Rosberg beat Hamilton to the title in 2016 in equal machinery, by your own standards that means Rosberg is the GOAT. Disagree? 

LOL. Nice comedy!

Nico Rosberg - 23 wins.

Sir Lewis Hamilton - 99 wins.

Yep. Sir Lewis is the GOAT. End of.

I'm not sorry breaking up the Hamilton love-in here, the guy is complete clown in and out of the car. Times up for him.

Riiiight. Well, until the GOAT wins a couple more World Titles, that is.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, the GOAT is just a kid without a fast car and an obedient partner.

Screaming goat, goat, goat won't change that fact.end off.

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Just read that little brat Verstappen unfriended Lewis on Instagram. Ohh, how petty!

Lets call it as it is - Verstappen only got the drive in F1 because of his Daddy.

Bring on the next race!

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To the guy who calls Hamilton the GOAT: Rosberg beat Hamilton to the title in 2016 in equal machinery, by your own standards that means Rosberg is the GOAT. Disagree?

You usually put the 'equal machinery' in capitals, which almost makes people forget that Hamilton beat Rosberg the previous two years in EQUAL MACHINERY, at which point your argument collapses again. And then Rosberg quit, because he knew he couldn't luck out again like he did in 2016 and would get drubbed like the previous two years.

Also watch RBR not let go of this. They'll get Hamilton suspended, or at the very least retract his points for the race.

You are more confused than I imagined if you think that the RB are going to ask that the race result be overturned, the FIA agree with them and overturn their race decision, and then suspend Hamilton for something that they have already punished him for. The only thing being suspended here is your logic.

the guy is complete clown in and out of the car.

It's the out of the car stuff that bothers you isn't it? And we can see that your ability to recognise individual sporting excellence depends on the politics of that individual.

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Just read that little brat Verstappen unfriended Lewis on Instagram. Ohh, how petty!

Lets call it as it is - Verstappen only got the drive in F1 because of his Daddy.

Bring on the next race!

Lol, you're a funny lad.

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Lets call it as it is

To me, that would mean that most top level F1 drivers are not like the rest of us. Let's face it, they're all complete nutters. To me, overtaking a bus on the way into town is a thrill. I can't even imagine the speeds and close contact they experience.

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Love this guy. Best of continued luck to him.

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ClippetyClopJuly 19  11:21 pm JST

You usually put the 'equal machinery' in capitals, which almost makes people forget that Hamilton beat Rosberg the previous two years in EQUAL MACHINERY, at which point your argument collapses again. And then Rosberg quit, because he knew he couldn't luck out again like he did in 2016 and would get drubbed like the previous two years.

And you usually leave out the fact that the only season that Mercedes allowed Rosberg to race Hamilton was 2016.... the season Rosberg won the title. Prior to that Rosberg was Hamilton's wingman, just like Bottas has been since he joined Mercedes. And speaking about Bottas, he signed on knowing that under no circumstances was he to race Hamilton, to prevent another "mishap" like 2016 happening.

You really need to do more homework before replying.

You are more confused than I imagined if you think that the RB are going to ask that the race result be overturned, the FIA agree with them and overturn their race decision, and then suspend Hamilton for something that they have already punished him for. The only thing being suspended here is your logic.

I said RBR will get Hamilton suspended, or have his points retracted. I didn't say the FIA. RBR will try everything to get that result reversed. Or do you think they all of a sudden think fairplay is in order and to just accept that Hamilton can risk other people's lives just to get a win? You thinking this reaction is illogical, is illogical.

It's the out of the car stuff that bothers you isn't it? And we can see that your ability to recognise individual sporting excellence depends on the politics of that individual.

It's me unreservedly saying your idol is a clown that bothers you.

Hamilton can do as he likes. Sporting excellence can be atributed to the top 10 drivers in the current field, but Hamilton is the only one of them who has a 50+hp advantage. Hamilton knows full well he's viewed as a clown in and out of the car despite this.

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And you usually leave out the fact that the only season that Mercedes allowed Rosberg to race Hamilton was 2016.

This isn't actually a thing. It's just your own private delusion. I could just say 'Hamilton wasn't allowed to race Rosberg in 2016' and have as much evidence for as it as you require: none.

And speaking about Bottas, he signed on knowing that under no circumstances was he to race Hamilton

Another one of your conspiracies? Do you also have a complete lack of evidence for this? You have even stated in the past that Bottas deliberately throws races.

You really need to do more homework before replying.

Where do I go to find the wonderful conspiracies that you have published?

I said RBR will get Hamilton suspended, or have his points retracted. I didn't say the FIA.

This is getting silly now. How on earth do RBR get him suspended? Did I miss them becoming the sport's governing body over the last couple of days? Hamilton is not getting suspended by RBR, nor the race result overturned. You need to start getting used to that.

It's me unreservedly saying your idol is a clown that bothers you.

A man who drives cars is not my idol. I'm not 14, I don't have an idol apart from my dad.

Sporting excellence can be atributed to the top 10 drivers in the current field, but Hamilton is the only one of them who has a 50+hp advantage.

No he doesn't, you're just making stuff up now.

Hamilton knows full well he's viewed as a clown in and out of the car despite this.

A seven-time world champion viewed as a clown by some random bitter chap on a forum in Japan. How does he sleep at night?!

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ClippetyClopToday  03:38 pm JST

This isn't actually a thing. It's just your own private delusion. I could just say 'Hamilton wasn't allowed to race Rosberg in 2016' and have as much evidence for as it as you require: none.

Oh yes it is. Don't be so willfully ignorant to try to prove your non-existent point. I come bearing evidence from Toto Wolff himself from F1.com, paragraphs 5 - 7 concerning the rules he set down in 2014 onwards: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mercedes-threatened-hamilton-and-rosberg-with-suspension-at-height-of.1c0WDqds0SubPhyPGxVK4a.html

Another one of your conspiracies? Do you also have a complete lack of evidence for this? You have even stated in the past that Bottas deliberately throws races.

Just because you don't do your homework, dowsn't mean you can throw accusations around. It makes you look foolish. See the article above. Nothing changed after Rosberg retired. Numerous times Bottas told to let Hamilton pass. You want evidence? Ha! https://www.planetf1.com/news/valtteri-bottas-team-orders-spanish-gp/

Where do I go to find the wonderful conspiracies that you have published?

The links provided above. Easy just click on them. But first leave your bias at the door.

This is getting silly now. How on earth do RBR get him suspended? Did I miss them becoming the sport's governing body over the last couple of days? Hamilton is not getting suspended by RBR, nor the race result overturned. You need to start getting used to that.

They will petition the FIA. Don't think for a moment RBR won't try this. They are leading the championship and have singlehandedly saved F1 from 100% certain doom next year if they didn't provide any tangible competiton to Mercedes this season. The FIA will hear them out. I don't expect anything to come of it. See, that's where you start misrepresenting my comment.

A man who drives cars is not my idol.

Sure he's not. Your sore replies speak volumes.

No he doesn't, you're just making stuff up now.

Ignorance knows no bounds.

Paddy Lowe himself on record annoucing that since 2014 Mercedes have been "turning their engine down" to not make a complete mockery of the rest of the field: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-motor-f1-mercedes-idUKKBN2CF24M

Why? Because in 2009 when the FIA were negotiating with Mercedes to enter F1 (after the exit of Toyota, Honda and BMW) Mercedes bluffed everyone by calling for a 4 cylinder turbo hybrid formula for the 2014 era. Mercedes knew Ferrari would veto this and call for a V6 formula. In the meantime Mercedes started development of a V6 turbo engine and hybrid system. They literally has 18 months head start with R&D before the new hybrid formula was announced in 2011.

A seven-time world champion viewed as a clown by some random bitter chap on a forum in Japan. How does he sleep at night?!

And finally you ignore the absolute destruction of Hamilton on social media and elsewhere in the fallout after the British GP, and reduce that to.... me, a random chap on JT. Wow, you did it. You proved ignorance does indeed know no bounds.

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I come bearing evidence from Toto Wolff himself from F1.com, paragraphs 5 - 7 concerning the rules he set down in 2014 onwards:

Nothing in that article in any paragraphs supports your claim that, 'the only season that Mercedes allowed Rosberg to race Hamilton was 2016'. Wolff is basically saying what every other team says, which is that the team comes first and don't crash into each other. Is your conspiracy based on this alone?

Numerous times Bottas told to let Hamilton pass.

Do you know how F1 works? Have you seen any races? Do you know how often teammates are told to let each other pass? Has Hamilton ever let Bottas pass. Well here's one. I guess in your mind this means that Hamilton isn't allowed to race Bottas. You have again invented a conspiracy from something that happens for every single team in every single race.

https://drivetribe.com/p/lewis-hamilton-puts-heart-above-PYGbIyiORh2PBZV6iP8VTg?iid=E5GB1WWvRJOivrO67hFkDQ

They will petition the FIA.Don't think for a moment RBR won't try this........See, that's where you start misrepresenting my comment.

Quite a change of course from your earlier comment of 'I said RBR will get Hamilton suspended, or have his points retracted. I didn't say the FIA. So who will be doing the the suspending here (which you now think won't happen)? You are unable to not misrepresent your own comments, no need for me to.

Ignorance knows no bounds.

Nothing what you wrote supports your comment that Hamilton is the only one of them who has a 50+hp advantage. Again, you have read something and concluded with a conspiracy that has no evidence in the thing that you think proves it. Does Hamilton's car have a 50+hp advantage on RB or Bottas?

And finally you ignore the absolute destruction of Hamilton on social media

Who cares? Do you mean on the social media that you read? And by destruction do you mean 'racist abuse'? Can we have a link to this 'destruction' that you seem so pleased about?

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L.H deliberately hit Max rear and it was nothing to lose attitude from LH. If the both cars crashed and then nothing to lose for him. If he survived like this and then he will win. I denounce it. It's not racing accident. Only LH know what he has done.

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This will go down as one of the most famous of F1 racing incidents, open to interpretation depending on which team and driver you support.

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