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Hooliganism scars Euro 2016 as England, Russia risk expulsion

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I would have thought expelling England would do wonders for the Brexit campaign. Yes, I know the EU and UEFA are not related but it's all "Europe" to the mostly-ignorant Brexiteers.

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Why aren't the French fans being discussed? The Marseilles "ultras" are on quite a few videos igniting the issues outside of the stadium.

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I'm sure many of them were fueled with alcohol.

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Can't believe they gave the '18 World Cup to Russia. Bad decisions lead to bad situations and results.

Kick the bums and their teams out if they're too mentally undeveloped to watch "the beautiful game" without acting like animals.

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Football hooliganism has been making a comeback at the European Championship

What a bs, hooliganism never left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism

Glad we live in Japan where besides Urawa reds sports is still being enjoyed instead of brawling.

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What I read on the BBC is that the Russian hooligans rushed the british. Now considering the source, I take it with a grain of salt. That's just what I read. Does anyone have any more info that they can share?

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If alcohol is the problem, UEFA should have asked (and paid) French unions CGT and FO to block alcohol depots rather than fuel ones!

Or how to make a quick buck while on strike.

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English, Aly, not British.

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I would have thought expelling England would do wonders for the Brexit campaign. Yes, I know the EU and UEFA are not related but it's all "Europe" to the mostly-ignorant Brexiteers.

This has nothing to do with the In/Out Referendum. The fact that you would take this opportunity to attack the supporters of the Leave Campaign only shows your own ignorance.

The problem here is much easier to understand: alcohol. Alcohol should be banned from high-profile sports events such as this one, and if fans have been drinking prior to the game, they should be refused entry to the stadium. There will always be conflicts between fans of opposing teams. Rivalries have a habit of getting out of hand like that, but alcohol only makes it so much worse.

UEFA acknowledged there were “segregation issues”

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Russia has been charged by UEFA over crowd disturbances, racist behavior by fans and the setting off of fireworks at the game.

These actions really don't help matters either. Rival fans should always be kept separated exactly for this reason. While I neither condone nor defend the actions of the English fans, it does sound like the Russian fans instigated the incidents, namely with racist behaviour. That's guaranteed to go down poorly, but crowd disturbances and fireworks will only exacerbate matters. England fans are passionate about football, and don't take kindly at all to anyone trying to ruin "the beautiful game." Even so, I would fully support UEFA if they chose to disqualify Russia and England over the behaviour of their fans. It'd be the right thing to do. Send them back home and let them reflect upon their atrocious behaviour.

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What I read on the BBC is that the Russian hooligans rushed the british. Now considering the source, I take it with a grain of salt. That's just what I read. Does anyone have any more info that they can share?

English fans started drinking and fighting with the police days before this game. Usual idiots. Local Marseille gangs came along and also wanted some of this action. The French riot squad went over the top as usual attacking people instead of making arrests. Russian paramilitary gangs then turned up for the match provoking fights before the game and attacked an innocent family end of the ground.
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This has nothing to do with the In/Out Referendum. The fact that you would take this opportunity to attack the supporters of the Leave Campaign only shows your own ignorance.

FYI, they were chanting '*F** off Europe, we're all voting out'. I'm pretty sure they were talking about the referendum.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/679067/england-fans-euro-2016-anti-eu-songs-brexit

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English, Aly, not British.

My bad. A bit embarassing as I am a British Citizen myself.

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Why don't the host city ban the serving of alcohol in bottles or glasses during these events that attract hooligan violence. Just serve up beer, wine and spirits in plastic cups. Make it more like a off-campus kegger.

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UEFA are totally to blame. Basing England and Russia in Marseille of all places. Then set the match for a Saturday evening kick-off allowing fans to get tanked up all day. Then they separate Russian and England fans in the stadium with a blue tarpaulin. You couldnt make it up.

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How on Earth was this English fans' fault? The Russians were hunting English prior to the match and then charged the England section at the end of the match, obviously trying to recreate what happened at Heysel. Ban Russia from all sports

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UEFA bore a huge responsibility for the Heysel disaster and the English FA bore a responsibility for Hillsborough. UEFA are still failing and Saturdays events are another example. England v Russia on a saturday night in Marseille?! Its as if someone is planning for this to happen.

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Sides from countries whose citizens are arrested for violence should be barred from competition immediately, their remaining matches cancelled and their opponents declared the victor. Should the supporters of 2 teams be involved, the same policy should apply - in this case to the British, French and Russians. The supporters should be repatriated to their home country and then permanently barred from entering all UEFA countries save their own.

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Sides from countries whose citizens are arrested for violence should be barred from competition immediately

Read a couple of days ago that English and French fans had already been arrested as well as an Austrian and a German and that was before Saturday's clashes with Russians. That's 5 nations right there. PSG ultras also ambushed some Turks yesterday (history with galatasaray) ahead of the Turkey v Croatia game.

I get your point but 'banning' all selections whose fans cause trouble is imo not the answer and could be counter productive. This is Europe, no borders nor passport control per se. Once you're in you're just another eu citizen, this is home.

I dont think there will ever be an incident-free euro comp but am sure uefa and french police could have done better re fans separation and boozers management. As others have said a 9pm kick off was pure madness.

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Aly RustomJun. 13, 2016 - 09:05AM JST

What I read on the BBC is that the Russian hooligans rushed the british.

That's what happened. The English got a bit of a kicking by the surprise attack and brutal organization of the Russian mob.

I can see the English hooligans gunning for some revenge on Wednesday by turning up at the Russia v Slovakia organized and joining with the Slovakians who also have a large number of hooligans.

The Russians better watch their backs!

All really very very sad in this day and age.

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Many folk on here need a lesson on the difference between being English and being British.

Here's a clue...I am Scottish and have no problem being called one but you risk a slap if you call me the other!

(Just banter mods ok?)

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Many folk on here need a lesson on the difference between being English and being British.

Here's a clue...I am Scottish and have no problem being called one but you risk a slap if you call me the other!

(Just banter mods ok?)

No hooligan trouble at all from the Scots in France. Oh thats right, theres a good reason for that..

The English got a bit of a kicking by the surprise attack and brutal organization of the Russian mob.

You mean English families and innocent fans. It happened in the Russian end. The English end was at the other side of the stadium. Different story if the Russians tried that in the English end.

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soccer proves in more ways the one: the masses are asses.

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2,000 English have had their passports confiscated to stop them travelling to this tournament. Those are the 'hardcore', so apart from a very small number of English troublemakers, the vast majority are just usual fans going to have a good time and watch a game. Unfortunately, the English way of warming up for a big game overseas is pretty rowdy, in your face and in very large numbers, which can be scary for anyone who isn't used to it.

Domestic hooliganism has almost all but disappeared at games in England, plenty of mouthy yobs about but not much violence at all. The Russians and Eastern Europeans these days now base themselves on the English hooligans of the 70s and 80s, who just don't exist to such an extreme, so those new ultras target normal fans in English colours. In a way it's karma, as English hooligans did plenty of that in the 70s and 80s, both at home and abroad, but I do believe English fans are specifically targeted these days.

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TigersTokyoDomeJun. 13, 2016 - 05:23PM JST

You mean English families and innocent fans. It happened in the Russian end. The English end was at the other side of the stadium. Different story if the Russians tried that in the English end.

Nope I mean the real off that took place in the port area. I sense a bit of perverted national pride in your post. The part time English yobs of today, with their fat beer bellies, are no match for the eastern European ultras who seem to make soccer violence a full time hobby; those guys are in a league of their own.

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Gary Raynor - totally agree. What went off at the port was between rival hooligans. Who won the fight is irrelevant as it was a fair enough contest - if Russians turning up with axes and tools is considered a fair fight. What happened in the stadium however is cowardice. Families and innocent fans attacked by Russia's top firms. And now Russian politicians and sports ministers are applauding and condoning what happened. As I said, and no sense of national pride at all, the Russians were far outnumbered in the stadium and if they attempted that at England's home end (they didnt for obvious reasons) it would have been a different story. The Russians are in a league of their own when fighting parents with kids.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36515283

A new breed of hooligan - scary stuff

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