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New Olympic stadium design proposals unveiled

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Looks just like the one they demolished.

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I don't like either of them as much as the 'bike helmet'.

And why were only two companies bidding?

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walls that its creators say are meant to complement nearby structures.

Yeah, like that ever mattered in building design in Japan before. Funny how that suddenly became a criterion for this stadium.

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So, will this one be made out sticks?

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This looks actually much better than that behemoth of a bicycle helmet.

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Compare these boring designs to Beijing's fascinating and iconic "Bird's Nest Stadium"...

It just seems to me to illustrate how staid, boring and unimaginative Japan has become in comparison to other Asian countries.

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and fits in with surrounding greenery, with shrubbery along its outer concourses

LOL!

It would seem more cost effective if you made the surrounding greenery and shrubbery match a more appealing design.

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I always loved Japan for not being 'slave' to the exuberant in favor of the practical. Imagine if they tried to make Tokyo metro look like Moscow metro for example!

I am not going to watch the stadium from above 99.9% of the time so I don't need to see a 'beautiful' let it be helmet or whatever!!!

The green surroundings, internal structural rigidity and functionality is what matters! Hope they can make the selection process transparent this time though!

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These are such a funny designs. Zaha Hadid's design much more better. I wish japan will think once again before final selection. because Olympic stadium is the face of Japan, Japan will be recognized by this face. I suggest to select Zaha hadid's design but select different construction company who can build in reasonable cost.

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then what was the point of all those thousands of submission when this makes it sound like the gov't already had these two designs in mind? and who wants to be that both of these companies are from japan because there was so much made about it being "foreign-designed" last time.

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Compare these boring designs to Beijing's fascinating and iconic "Bird's Nest Stadium"...

Yeah, the Bird's nest is fascinating.

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Compare these boring designs to Beijing's fascinating and iconic "Bird's Nest Stadium"...

It just seems to me to illustrate how staid, boring and unimaginative Japan has become in comparison to other Asian countries.~

Good call. I shudder to think what food will be on offer. Usual Matsuri (festival) fair like at the Tokyo Motor Show. Greasy frankfurters on sticks, that sweet yaki soba noodle stuff, curry udon blah blah but there will always be McDonald's I suppose. Might have English menus for this event though :)

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One of them seems to be incomplete. Or is that a metaphor for the incompleteness of the project of life. That is, it makes an existential statement. I'll take that one.

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Is it just me, or does that second one's roof look like a gaping vulva ?

Throw that designer into jail, forthwith ! (End sarcasm mode)

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Compare these boring designs to Beijing's fascinating and iconic "Bird's Nest Stadium"...

Does the design do any good to the performance of the athletes? I think that kind of good-for-nothing decoration is unique to socialist nations.

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Another shrubbery!!! Duuunnn

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@CH3CHO

Does the design do any good to the performance of the athletes? I think that kind of good-for-nothing decoration is unique to socialist nations.

Actually, I don't think it is unique to socialist nations.

How about in Japan?

Many love hotels, for example, have very extravagant "good-for-nothing decoration"...

I can only speak for myself but I can certainly say, yes, it does do some good for my performance.

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Setting aside the design for a minute, how is it that two competing bids can come in at JPY 153 billion and JPY 153.7 billion respectively?! That is a differential of less than 0.5%!! Amazing!! For two seemingly different designs.

Funny how the numbers are so close. But, of course, there is no dango going on at all. Not at all.

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Why not use the stadium in Shin-Yokohama and not spend over a hundred billion yen? Google it. It's huge and modern.

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Why not use the stadium in Shin-Yokohama and not spend over a hundred billion yen? Google it. It's huge and modern.

As a resident of Yokohama I think this is a great idea. We would warmly welcome everyone from Tokyo to the games of the XXXII Olympiad, Yokohama 2020. But the Olympic motto 'Citius, Altius, Fortius' (Faster, Higher, Stronger) would have to be changed to 'Vilius, Longius, et Ipsa Impeditissimum' (Cheaper, Farther, and very Embarrassing)

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Now watch the build for either of these simpler designs go 40% over budget...

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Both seem better than the Hadid monstrosity, but I still don´t understand why they can´t simply renovate and upgrade the existing stadium? It is structurally sound and has a history behind it.

Why always break things down and pour more concrete?

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I still don´t understand why they can´t simply renovate and upgrade the existing stadium? It is structurally sound and has a history

There is no existing stadium anymore. They tore it down.

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So I am going to have to look out of my window at one of these every day for the rest of my life? As an architect, I was looking forward to seeing Zaha's design there.

What they mean by "understated" is that, besides eliminating the modern requirement for an enclosed roof, they have removed most of the social and cultural elements, and left only the bare-bones seating with perhaps a few ramen stalls.

Plus they fiddled the costs to make these smaller buildings look cheaper (for now) and Zaha's look more expensive. Even so, only "40% over budget" seems too low. I predict that by 2020 ¥260 billion for Zaha's design will seem like a bargain.

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Which one will better withstand the impending dual between Tetsuo & Kaneda?

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153 billion yen..... What a waste of money. They could have just kept the old one and save tax payers from being again ripped off. This cost actually adds up to the cancelation fees that they have to pay for the previous design.

I think that kind of good-for-nothing decoration is unique to socialist nations.

But what a hell are you talking about? You said you think but I am not sure you are thinking. Otherwise what could explain such blatant nonsense?

And you often come up with this socialism thing, but really I would encourage you to open a book (I said book not manga) and document yourself about what socialism really means.

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nakanoguy01 at Dec. 14, 2015 - 05:38PM JST "then what was the point of all those thousands of submission when this makes it sound like the gov't already had these two designs in mind? "

What thousands of submissions? Are you maybe mixing up the stadium design plans with the submissions from the public for the emblem design?

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BOTH UGLY AND BORING!!!

Running out of time and now they are just looking to waste money on getting something finished in time no matter how boring it is. What a colossal waste of money this will be.

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boring!

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"I don't like either of them as much as the 'bike helmet'."

Solution: get on yer bike and go build a helmet in yer own country!

Simples!

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choiwaruoyajiDEC. 14, 2015 - 07:32PM JST

Many love hotels, for example, have very extravagant "good-for-nothing decoration"...

The decoration of "love hotels" creates positive cash flow.

The decoration of national stadiums creates negative cash flow. That is the difference.

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The report says "Japan Sports Council ... did not identify which companies have proposed which designs."

However, in Japanese, reports say that Scheme A is proposed by Taisei Corporation, design by Azusa Sekkei with Kengo Kuma and Scheme B is proposed by a consortium of Takenaka Komuten, Shimizu Corporation and Obayashi, design by Nihon Sekkei with Toyo Ito.

The costs quoted do not include the partial roof, which adds around ¥30 billion to the total, compared with Zaha's retractable roof which was reported to cost ¥95 billion. So they still have to cancel performances when it rains.

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