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Japan's gymnasts criticize judges after losing to China

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There's a lot of corruption in the event. South Korea and China cheating here and there. Taking gold medals from India, Japan and others. This is no good!

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China lying,cheating and stealing?How shocking......I feel bad for those hard working Japanese boys that got stiffed and who should have been taking home gold...Boo Chinese...yet again

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I just wonder who were judges on the game. All Chinese? By the way, as to first WBC games, all referees were Americans.

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So sad....Japanese are victims once again. Baffling why Uchimura complemented the Chinese gymnasts.." China had proven strong by holding steady under pressure at home. Equally baffling was the Chinese coach praising Japanese gymnasts for execution and artistry.

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Bad losers.

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Bad losers.

I rarely hear Japanese complain about the judging. If they were all complaining, it must have been pretty bad.

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Well that's rich. I remember Uchimura falling off the pommel horse in spectacular fashion during the London Olympics. Japan ended fourth, but the team protested, thrusting the money into the air for an appeal (that was funny, made it look like a bribe), couldn't accept they'd lost, and somehow managed to push the Ukranians off the podium, and GB to bronze, much to the anger of the locals.

Titanium:

Taking gold medals from India, Japan and others.

Well, boo bl**dy hoo! Work for it! And it's not exactly difficult taking golds away from India.

His teammate Ryohei Kato, the all-around runner-up to Uchimura at last year’s worlds, said: “This is what we dread about sports based on judging.”

Yeap, I guess he knows how Kim Yuna felt. But don't let that prevent anyone from recalling how people laughed the day after she got her silver medal at the Olympics.

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"beating our nemesis" I have no respect for, and no interest in, these international competitions as demonstrations of nationalist ideology. I'm interested in sport, but the nationalism just ruins it. I've no idea about the judging but I wouldn't be shocked to learn that it is infected with nationalistic politicization. As this article clearly shows, these sports buttress the false and destructive belief in nationalistic ideology.

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Wow! Sore losers! You know who else whines about judguing when it doesn't go their way? EVERYONE. Japan is no exception, and not the first team to uddenly dislike the judging system when they 'lose'.

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There is a simple solution: eliminate all the sports that require the judgement of performance quality and use other measures, such as distance, height, time. For instance, in the case of gymnastics, make some kind of obstacle course using all the apparatuses and see who can complete this fastest.

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There is a simple solution: eliminate all the sports that require the judgement of performance quality and use other measures, such as distance, height, time. For instance, in the case of gymnastics, make some kind of obstacle course using all the apparatuses and see who can complete this fastest.

then the strongest would win every time, so Japan might as well give up. their strong point is the technical aspect.

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There is a simple solution: eliminate all the sports that require the judgement of performance quality...........

Exactly. I don't see how this type of event can be called a "sport" when the outcome is decided by judges. Only if "first past the post" decides who won can it truly be a sport.

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Oh God, this kind of losing by 0.1 situations almost begs for such complaints.

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@Harry_Gatto:

courtesy of Mirriam Webster: **sport noun

: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other

: a physical activity (such as hunting, fishing, running, swimming, etc.) that is done for enjoyment ** frankly, what you consider "Truly a sport" is narrow minded.

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Extreme nationalism in some parts of Asia ( and the world of course) is moving civilization backward without shame. Remember Ray Jones Jr. during summer Olympics 1988 in Seoul, Korea? check it out on youtube. Shame is the word.

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I rarely hear Japanese complain about the judging. If they were all complaining, it must have been pretty bad.

Then you have never really watched Japan play games against China or Korea. All 3 countries are always complaining about the other two, whether its politics or sports. Ever watched the Judo championships? Japan has complained many times when they have lost.

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How about some bleu cheese with your whine?

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Any "sport" that awards medals based on human-awarded scores such as 15.966 is a lot of nonsense to begin with. What are the error bars for this score? I suggest the 0.001, and maybe the 0.01 have no meaning and should not be used.

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titaniumdi0xide: "There's a lot of corruption in the event. South Korea and China cheating here and there. Taking gold medals from India, Japan and others. This is no good!"

Wow, a Japan-licker dragging in Korea for totally irrelevant insults in something that had nothing to do with Koreans, just because the Japanese team sucked -- how unusual!

Oh wait, that happens ALL the time, doesn't it, loser.

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To be honest, I've got next to no knowledge or interest in how points are awarded or deducted in this. I imagine falling on your arse isn't a good thing but outside of that I have no idea. I just wonder if the usual China/Korea bashers watched this event in its entirety and are qualified to offer a knowledgeable opinion on this.

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SORE LOSERS!

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This is not the first time the japanese used this unfair tactic to forcefully gain something that is not theirs. Just look back in 2012 Olympic, when the japanese stole the silver from Britain and bronze medal from Ukraine in the pommel competition. The japanese are a bunch of crying babies when it comes to taking undeserved awards, so to saving their self-righteous face and suffering dysfunctional psychotic states that they're above anyone else in the world.

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Slowguy2, I am not dragging Korea. I'm just saying what's on the news.S Korea cheated India in the previous boxing match. It was clear who the true winner is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50fMQKlepxc&app=desktop

Same with China this time.

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Oh well, Uchimura just be proud of his Gold medals in a much more important event. China had home advantage. Only the Chinese will remember this event. Most of the World could care less about a Chinese swim meet.

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Akkk1 i think that you find that the gym coaches appreciate the other teams talent and possibly respect each other as athletes and sportsmen its politics that have soured the sport

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So there was something called World Championship going on? A non-event to me at best, since I didn't even know about it, let alone it was playing out in such a country as china. Had it been the Olympics, I would have made plans to watch months earlier. Anyway, good practice, the Japan's Team! I know you guys' real talents. You guys, don't bother to waste your words on the underserved. Save your energy for the next two Olympics - the real areas, where you will let them smell your smoke from a distance.

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titaniumdioxide: "S Korea cheated India in the previous boxing match. It was clear who the true winner is."

The point slowguy was making is that you bring in a nation not even mentioned in this article or in this event because you have a reputation of wanting to bash that nation out of hatred and to deflect from the fact that Japan is the one whining here. You could take a post about the blooming of Cosmos flowers and YOU would turn it into some excuse to bash SK. Instead of talking one bit about Japan's result and the athletes' reactions to it and instead talk about China and South Korea 'cheating'. THAT is the point of the comment, titanium, and you cannot even see it through your veil of hatred.

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On his favorite apparatus and needing 15.867 for victory, the captain of the Chinese squad mixed complicated aerial skills with giant swings to score 15.966 points before a roaring capacity crowd.

Japan and the world just doesn't understand the Communist politics and propaganda involved in international sports. If the Communist Chinese judges would have scored the Japanese athletes higher the Communist athletes those judges would have been made to understood their mistake. Communism promotes itself as superior to all others, so they have to win.

If the games were played in North Korea, the Communist there would ensure that every Communist North Korean athlete would win no matter if they deserved it or not. Sports in Communist nations have nothing to do with sport, but everything to do with propaganda.

Communist want to make sure that their people believe that their system is the best. So, they make sure that they win every time, even when they lost.

Also, imagine what the crowd would have done to the judges if a Japanese team beat a Communist one? Lynching comes to mind.

Hell, the Chinese people are still peeved at their government over the military muddy noodle propaganda incident.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-28695466

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LOL. I honestly cannot believe the ignorence and bias displayed in some of the posts here. Folks, this was the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. No country is allowed to have more than one judge per event, and judges for the events are chosen by the World Gymnastics Federation, not the host country. Judging in gymnastics has been a source of tremendous controversy for years, and likely will continue to be so for many years to come. To blame it on some Communist conspiracy is just dumb.

Why don't you accept what Uchimura said:

But Uchimura, 25, the 2012 Olympic champion who is goes for a fifth straight all-around title on Thursday, said China had “proven strong by holding steady under pressure at home.

“As always, they have shown their mettle,” he added.

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jerseyboyOct. 09, 2014 - 09:53PM JST LOL. I honestly cannot believe the ignorence and bias displayed in some of the posts here.

I'm not the only one that sees through the politics involved in international sports. Japan was robbed and it was robbed Soviet style.

http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2014/10/japan-was-robbed/

http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/category/gymnastics/horizontal-bar/

jerseyboyOct. 09, 2014 - 09:53PM JST Why don't you accept what Uchimura said:

Because that is exactly what Japanese athlete's do every time, they congratulate their opponents. They are known as good sports even when they are robbed of a gold.

Hope this helps you to see through your rose colored glasses.

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Win some, lose some. 2012 Olympics, Uchimara pommel dismount dispute - "win some".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5DiC0W9VTI

Do you think Uchimura's handstand should be credited?

http://fulltwist.net/inquiry-elevates-japan-to-silver-britain-drop-to-bronze/

(comment) It’s incredible that the dismount was given. There was no support through the turn. As great a gymnast Uchimura certainly is, this was not his best work. He was falling from the pommel horse, did not show support in his turn, did not cross the horse as he was supposed to and made the best of a fall from the apparatus. The Difficulty judges, one of whom was japanese himself, made the right call and the apparatus supervisor agreed with their assessment. No dismount was awarded. If it hadn’t been Uchimura then the decision would have remained. Three international experts were in accord. Where do the MTC get 0.7 from. If a C dismount was awarded, that would have satisfied a partial dismount requirement for 0.3 and 0.3 for a C, which would have been 0.6. Had they awarded a D dismount, which it certainly was not, then that would have been 0.5 full dismount requirement and 0.4 for a D resulting in 0.9. It was never a D. The additional 0.7 is an impossible increment. ... The judges were entirely correct in their original assessment and every international judge reviewing the video cannot help agree with their colleagues who were charged with evaluating yesterday’s routine. Ukraine lost out on a medal yesterday and Britain dropped from silver to Bronze. There is no other sport where the judges or referees are overruled in this manner. A disservice to gymnastics was done yesterday.

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Smithinjapan isn't hypocrite right? What can you say about the Chinese staff that bashed Hagino in the Asian Games? Aren't they SORE LOSERS on that? (And don't tell me I'm bringing in someone who is not mentioned in the story. I know you are doing this in the other threads, too - historical). Come on!

Suddenly, silence.

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