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stickman1760
In the old days, a start wasn’t considered a success unless you picked up the win by going 5 complete innings. I guess those days are over.
you go 4-2/3, walk five batters and you’re considered a superstar.
qazwsx
Well he basically went 5 innings. Got the strikeout that the catcher dropped, misthrew to 1st and then another misthrow back to Ohtani at home getting him injured. Hardly his fault. Fastest pitch this year and hardest hit HR in the same game/inning pretty awesome
stickman1760
Baseball is a very precise game. You need to go a minimum5 complete to pick up a win. He had a meltdown there in the fifth so he didn’t get the win.
I’ll call him a legit two-way player when he gets a minimum 10 wins. That’s being generous. Back in the good old days 15 plus wins was considered successful
stickman1760
Also fastest pitch and hardest hit HR are meaningless stats to be honest
Muratafan
No matter what you say, getting 7 strikeouts in one game and then hitting a 451-foot bomb is impressive....even for an ol' codger like stickman. If it was so easy, how come nobody else has done it?
The fact that the phrase 'good old days' was even used tells me everything I need to know. In the good old days, only Nolan Ryan would throw as hard as Ohtani and he had plenty of walks too. And, Nolan didn't exactly hit 450-foot dingers.
asiafriend
Well said! Nolan Ryan had a tremendous amount of stikeouts, and also walks. That is similar to home great home run hitters that also strike out often. Also, the fastest pitch and hardest hit HR may be meaningless to some on this forum, but it does mean quite a bit to opposing teams. They now know, even better than before, that he is not someone to take lightly. It used to be that when facing a pitcher at bat, it was considered a sure out. That is one reason the designated hitter rule was created, so as to bring more action into the game. But Ohtani does not need a designated hitter. In fact, he can, and probably will be at times, used as a designated hitter when not pitching.