Chinese swimming fans hit back at doping claims after Pan takes gold

Even though a large group of Chinese Olympians failed their drug tests for having illegal performance enhancing drugs in their system, they claimed they got it from food at a restaurant and didn’t know.

uh huh, sounds a bit like how the CCP claims Covid didn’t come from China and came from a lab in DC.

They always have an excuse, it’s just never believable. It’s a shame for the few Chinese athletes that aren’t cheating because they are all now looked at suspiciously.

"We Chinese are a people with a bottom line, we have conviction. It's really beneath us to do anything against the rules," tech worker Wen Ya, 36, told AFP.

"I trust our national coaches and athletes. They wouldn't knowingly break the rules," she said.

Yeah, sure. That heart medication TMZ just miraculously found its way into the bodies of 23 swimmers. Those Chinese coaches would never break the rules.

Despicable cheats.

Perhaps if other athletes suspect the Chinese of cheating, they should refuse to line up next to them at the starting line or the podium as a protest. For a nation where saving face is paramount, it'd make the Chinese stand out like sore thumbs for all the world to see. They'd be livid and scream racism, of course.

But perhaps if they played fair it wouldn't be a problem for them in the first place.

"We Chinese are a people with a bottom line, we have conviction. It's really beneath us to do anything against the rules," tech worker Wen Ya, 36, told AFP.

Wen Ya needs to get out more. China produces over 80% of the world's counterfeited products despite being a signatory to an international agreement to respect ip rights. China continues to harass the Philipines despite an International ruling that they don't own the Sptaleys but China refuses to recognize it. So China's behavior in the world shows that nothing is beneath them when it comes to breaking the rules.

Of course people are suspicious of China's claim of not doping, given their history. But to judge in this case we really need to know how close to the race they were tested, and how long the drug, if taken, has an effect and how long that effect lasts.

They'd be livid and scream racism, of course.

Because it IS racism. Adverse actions for reason of abstract suspicion of a certain demographic is stereotypical racism.

I understand the sentiment over the TMZ incident. Having said that, by the rules of procedural justice so advocated by the West, they had been found the equivalent of "Not Guilty", and they are already being disadvantaged by being subject to an above average run of tests - which may turn out to be the grilling of innocents.

So keep those feelings inside.

Chinese: "We Chinese are a people with a bottom line, we have conviction. It's really beneath us to do anything against the rules," tech worker Wen Ya, 36, told AFP.

Everyone else: ....

Everyone else: Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

After scraping into the semifinals in 14th place of 16, to then win the final by so much leaves no choice but to raise suspicions and questions.

Those 100 meter races are alway very close and hard to call by eyeball alone so when one swimmer wins by a huge margin, smashes a WR in the bargain when no other races have had WR swims possibly due to the shallow depth of 2.2 meters, which is under the minimum reccommended 2.5 meters. Add to that the cloud over all Chinese swimmers after mass doping revelations before the Tokyo games and it is hard not to raise an eyebrow over such a swim.

It was a massive win and if found to be clean, then he truly out did himself when it counted the most and congratulations are in order. But do not condemn those who may have questions. It is based on the number of cases of doping in Chinese swimming history. If they had always been clean in the past, this swim would not be questioned today.

First, anything that involves USA and China, its politicized, by the American.

Second, they have been Americans, more than one, who have got off using the food contamination reason too.

And, at the end of the day? Its racism, whether you want to admit it or not/say it out aloud or not, in all context, sport or any arena.

Americans don't really think about China all that much.

I don't think Chinese think about Americans all that much either.

Any politics is created by outside forces ... like political propaganda and failed drug tests.

At least we know that standard testing was performed against all the swimmers since April, so these races have been as clean as they can be with the technology available today. That doesn't mean that new drugs weren't discovered and are being used, but aren't seen in testing.

In 20-30 yrs when former athletes all start dying, we'll have an indication that something more was happening. If they don't start dying and live beyond age 80, we'll also know we were wrong. There are a number of professional athletes who die in their early 50s because they doped to be a better player in their prime years. OTOH, many of them die in vehicle accidents - being rich and having really fast cars is a way to die, it seems.

And, at the end of the day? Its racism, whether you want to admit it or not/say it out aloud or not, in all context, sport or any arena.

Here we go folks, the argument of the desperate man. Just cry "racism", without any substance, and hope people will be fooled.

It's not working. The Chinese are proven, systemic, State-sponsored doping cheats.

What ? so, dope himself, wins, everyone congratulate for his "hard work" ? LOL.

Do any of the accusers have a single prove? The US always accusing others of doping.

Do any of you remember Lance Armstrong? I'm sure the French do.

Testing in competition is a farce and just for show. The steroids and EPO almost all athletes from all nations are using will have been undetectable weeks ago.

Do any of the accusers have a single prove?

How could they? The Chinese agency didn't report the incident until 3 months afterwards, while WADA just accepted China's reasoning because how can they investigate something after 3 months have already passed

The fact that the Chinese agency waited so long before reporting the incident is very sus. Russia waited too long as well regarding their figure skater Valieva's positive TMZ test

LOL

We Chinese are a people with a bottom line, we have conviction. It's really beneath us to do anything against the rules," tech worker Wen Ya, 36, told AFP

Wen clearly has never left China and seen their behaviors overseas and how they’re often perceived. You’re at the rock bottom when it comes down to following the rules.

I suspect in the future China may become the 1st country in the World to allow its athletes to dope up on anything and everything possible and make it legal for domestic competitions. Come on... it is China, if you're not cheating you're not winning! So just take the "cheating" part out of the equation and make everything legal.

Pan Zhanle's 100m swimming world record that earned him a gold medal would be the equivalent of a sprinter smashing the 100m Track world record held by Usain Bolt, from the "modest" 9.58 seconds, to something like 8.99 seconds. Simply unfathomable.

Here's a fairer way to archive this dubious "new world record" for posterity.

** Pan Zhanle 100 m Freestyle Paris Olympics ---- 46.40 sec : Powered with TMZ & EPO

And, at the end of the day? Its racism, whether you want to admit it or not/say it out aloud or not, in all context, sport or any arena.

How is it racist when China is accused in the same way Russia has been called out for doping and East Germany was also a state sponsoring mass doping of athletes? The simple truth is states that sponsor doping large numbers of their athletes all get painted with the same brush. Atempting to call this racist is the only thing that actually is racist.

If you have large numbers of athletes testing positive, they get highlighted no matter their race. Its not about where your from or who you are, it is if your caught cheating by taking preformance boosting substances, expect to be caught in the spotlight. Trying to use race as a defense, by calling accusers racist will earn you no respect.

hit back at doping allegations

Reminds of the days when East Germany under Soviet Union control, during the time Putin was part of th KGB assigned to Stasi, to keep iron heels on citizen's throats, and machine guns pointed at their heads. But then China, East Germany and the Soviet Union were are totalitarian states. Defenders of totalitarianism I am not saying the US/West are perfectly clean, I imagine with money and prestige at stake cheating occurs. But it does seem totalitarian nations are the worst offenders.

China and Russia should just forget participating in international events instead stage their own games with no doping restrictions. It's pretty clear both have next to zero regard for rules other than their own.

The Chinese Olympic team cheats like the PLA steals. It’s their default position.

If they don’t like being held to account, either don’t cheat or don’t compete.