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Peng Shuai says allegation was 'enormous misunderstanding'

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In other words, she had to retract the allegation lest her family stay out of prison.

24 ( +30 / -6 )

"...My wish is that the meaning of this post no longer be skewed.”

Then why don't you tell us the "real" meaning of the post....

13 ( +18 / -5 )

Zoroto, remember the government involved here. Chinese can't publicly criticise the CCP and get away with it.

21 ( +26 / -5 )

so what that australian guy with t shirts "where is Peng Shuai"will do now?

maybe time sale of giveaway at ebay?

wondering how some people can believe any propaganda lies pushed through corrupted media...lets see first comment above...

-25 ( +4 / -29 )

Peng Shuai says allegation was 'enormous misunderstanding'

Chinese gov't: ok, let the hostages (her family) go.

18 ( +22 / -4 )

Eastman,

wondering how some people can believe any propaganda lies pushed through corrupted media...lets see first comment above...

Maybe your thinking of a different China?

11 ( +14 / -3 )

The newspaper said it had to submit questions in advance and that a Chinese Olympic committee official sat in on the discussion and translated her comments from Chinese.

The newspaper published her comments verbatim – which it said was another pre-condition for interview – in question-and-answer form

That's not really an interview then is it? Answering pre-submitted questions, all while being watched by a minder. . . . .

Peng Shuai speaks English, and has conducted numerous post-match interviews speaking the language. She doesn't need a translator.

16 ( +21 / -5 )

After all I've posted, no way China is going to let me back in - sad after my years there. I am in their archives, no doubt. Peng Shuai is a martyr, and watching the fate of a martyr unfold in real time makes one cringe.

11 ( +17 / -6 )

Somebody was threatened…..

12 ( +18 / -6 )

Normally I would say this should settle the matter, and maybe she can finally get some peace back. She has answered "where she is", she has answered the original allegations. She has answered far more than has ever really been asked of her, or should have ever been asked of her. Heck, she even answered to a non-Chinese publication, for all the people concerned about government tampering.

Of course, none of this matters to the people who co-opted her for political ends. They never cared about her, and don't care about anything she says unless it fits their agenda already. Eventually it will get dropped because some other propaganda piece will have more recency tied to it.

Just leave the poor woman alone already.

Peng Shuai speaks English, and has conducted numerous post-match interviews speaking the language. She doesn't need a translator.

It's a French newspaper, I don't think she speaks French.

-14 ( +5 / -19 )

I was waiting for CCP to force her to retract the accusation and Baron Von Ripper-off Bach is a conspirator in all this!!!

10 ( +12 / -2 )

I wonder if her blinking during the interview said anything in Morse Code...

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Zhang Gaoli, a former vice premier and member of the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee…

will be on his best behavior from now on.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

How can anyone make that distinction? No one would ever believe that. No one.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

It's surprising, why didn't she answer earlier then, seeing the worldwide reactions ?!

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Even if the whole thing was a misunderstanding ( which is impossible to believe) the reaction of the government was clearly invalid and exaggerated, at this point these kind of declarations about nothing happening only make the situation worse.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

All of a sudden the serious rape allegations made by Peng against one of the highest ranking members of the CCP have "vanished". Gee, I wonder why?

This seeming retraction is not believable in the slightest - except in the minds of PRC supporters and the 50-yuan online army.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Oh, well. What else would she say?

4 ( +5 / -1 )

The newspaper said it had to submit questions in advance

I've read elsewhere (BBC) that they were allowed to ask further questions at the interview.

had forced her to have sex 

There has been some debate about the translation of her original post. (raped or forced or pressured)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-60284261

https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/qzhxao/translation_of_peng_shuais_original_post_on_weibo/

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

@albaleo

Um, no.

Directly from that BBC article:

That line could be translated as: "You took me to your house and raped me" or "You took me to your house and forced me to have sex with you" or "You took me to your house and pressured me into having sexual relations with you".

Do you really want to tell me that one of those translations is acceptable behaviour, and we picked the wrong translation, and everything would have been ok otherwise?

The slight translation difference is nothing but nuance, the meaning is the SAME.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Wow, still, still most of the folks are wrong and spoon fed the MSM campaign who mistranslated her original post.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

@Mat,

The slight translation difference is nothing but nuance, the meaning is the SAME.

I think "pressured" could have a very broad range of interpretations. In the other linked translation, she apparently writes, "I was afraid, and panicked, and carrying the feelings I had for you seven years before, I agreed. ...Yes, it's just that we had sexual relations"

I'm not trying to make any judgement here. I feel really sorry for her. She's either being pressured by Chinese authorities or being hounded by Western media. But I'd prefer to see the reporting being a little bit more accurate.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Credibility, truthfulness not really a CCP strong point. But mass parades they have that. And conformity.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

People are just going to see what they want to regarding this.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

False accusations like this makes the life of real victims more difficult! There are millions of victims out there whose stories are not believed and simply ignored but fake accusations like this gather international attention just because it’s China! What is the world becoming as humans are losing all common sense.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Never heard of this person.

Why is she bigger news than millions of Uyghurs?

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Mat:

That line could be translated as: "You took me to your house and raped me" or "You took me to your house and forced me to have sex with you" or "You took me to your house and pressured me into having sexual relations with you".

Er, Mat, the BBC has a reputation of spinning outright lies, especially concerning China. For anyone who can understand some Chinese, this is blatantly obvious. There's a whole list, like showing Chinese writing or someone speaking in Chinese and then mis-translating it. And they have a habit of not responding when plot holes in their Uighur stories are pointed out.

I really would love to see where this 'translation' came from. The one I saw and the original made NO mention of rape or sexual abuse. All she said was that she had an affair and he was pressuring her to resume it. There was NO physical contact. Sexual harassment, maybe. Sexual abuse? Gimme a break. But once she released this on social media, some lying newspaper like the Washington Post or New York Post seized on it, and embellished the details to suit the west's agenda. Some of us aren't that stupid.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

The problem is that, due to the deceit dished out by their Great Leader (or more accurately, their Misleader), for example "the Coronavirus pandemic was not made in China", or "freedom of speech will be guaranteed in HK", or "there are no Uyghurs being detained or forcibly sterilised in Xianjing region", it becomes hard to distinguish who can be reliably believed in a country where pathological lying seems to be the norm.

Shame really, China used to be such a nice country, now it's just a pariah state lead by a terrorist organisation.....

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Believe all women, unless they say something you don't believe?

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

some lying newspaper like the Washington Post or New York Post seized on it,

Totally agree “some lying newspaper”. It was the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/world/asia/china-metoo-peng-shuai-zhang-gaoli.html

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

The newspaper said it had to submit questions in advance and that a Chinese Olympic committee official sat in on the discussion and translated her comments from Chinese.

Surely ya guys aren't so quick to buy a controlled government propaganda. Let someone known for high integrity interview her outside China, and ask her open questions, with no threats around her

Because it still doesn't explain everything else that happened after her initial statement (like all her social media disappearing, Chinese news doesn't even mention her, etc.) Why did those happen if she didn't say what we thought she did. Let her explain that

2 ( +3 / -1 )

She knew this would be the outcome when she did, but she did it anyway. She knew that the world would see the truth and that it would make the ccp try to cover it up and look like liars in the process.

She succeeded in her goals. Everyone outside of China knows the truth and the oppression the ccp is displaying only makes it more believable. Bravo.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

IN other words Peng Shuai says allegation was NOT an 'enormous misunderstanding'

But speaking to L'Equipe, Peng denied having accused Zhang of assault.

“Sexual assault? I never said that anyone made me submit to a sexual assault,” the newspaper quoted her as saying. In other words she is saying she had no choice

“This post resulted in an enormous misunderstanding from the outside world,” she also said. “My wish is that the meaning of this post no longer be skewed.” In other words this is a Chinese matter according to the CCP and it is okay the meaning of this post should no longer say I got "Screwed".

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@lostrune2

Hypothetically if we disrupted her life enough to fly her away from her home, gave her an interviewer that you personally would approve of (and plenty of others would not) and ask her open questions in a one on one interview I guarantee you people would not be satisfied.

In fact, I know 100% people's next line would be "well, her family is under threat back home". Fly them out, and it would be her friends or dog. The goal posts would just be moved forever because it was never about her and there is no amount of proof that can convince people of anything else.

@FizzBit

NYT may be one of the most anti-China biased papers in the states, which is actually an impressive accomplishment. They can be okay, sometimes, for domestic coverage, but their foreign policy is pretty bad. Especially if you delve into any of the op-eds.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Even if the abuse is true, I find it surprising that she could have been naive enough to think it could have turned out any better than it already has. And if not, why even say anything about the past.

But then again, many seem to think this where's Peng Shuai bit is still going somewhere.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

The CCP can take away her family, her career, and her life. How can we ever trust anything she says?

She's been "re-educated" by the CCP-handlers/IOC members, to understand that she needs to deny everything, so history can be rewritten.

Perhaps in China, having sex when you don't want to isn't considered "assault", but elsewhere it is.

When she and her entire family is in a different country, without CCP-handlers, and speaks freely, then I'll believe she wasn't assaulted. The level of coercion is high in this story.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

It must be tough to live in China.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

At Uni we had a Chinese history professor who had gone through the mill before escaping. He spent a long time in a re-education camp, playing the game, saying all the right things, before finally escaping through Hong Kong. He was extremely knowledgeable, not only about the current Chinese system, but Chinese history going back hundreds of years. He was a real treasure.

Which leads me to think that the tennis player in question does not have the option of speaking freely, not if she cares about her and her family's well being.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

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