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Agent says Ohtani plans to continue as pitcher and hitter after his elbow heals

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Otani should get a new agent and different people around him advising him! He was asked to get imaging done on his elbow nearly a month before the tear was officially identified. He was battling fatigue and arm problems then, and his "handlers" refused the request!

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One would expect that any new contract will contain a clause stating that Otani SHALL (not "may") get an imaging done on his elbow at the request of the club.

I don't know if the damage was already done or not, but turning down the MRI certainly did not help.

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He’ll keep saying this until he gets a career-ending injury which may come sooner than expected if he’s not careful.

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Yeah, this article has not aged well. Ohtani was benched after something went wrong during batting practice today.

The buck should stop with Ohtani and not Nez Balelo, Ippei, or whomever. The players are the ones who make the call to visit a doctor for what ails them, unless they are rendered unconscious. The coaches are working under the assumption that the players under their charge are healthy and not hiding any issues.

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I think the majority of pro-athletes want to play even if not 100%. That's why coaches and team doctors need to make the final decision and take them off the field for their own good sometimes. If the coaches and team doctors tell them they need to undergo examinations, rest, or avoid certain activities, the athletes need to heed the directives. If it's true that Ohtani didn't, was it him or his agent and handlers that went against team directives.

I'm on the fence if Ohtani should be allowed to continue to pitch and hit. It's great for baseball fans but how good is it for his career? The physical stress and motion for power pitchers and batters is especially unnatural.

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@Yubaru Thank goodness you aren't Ohtani's agent he would be worse off. If he didn't think he would be getting the advice he needs do you really think he would keep that agent around. I am sure he has the best minds to advise him. I don't think it is the team doctors its Ohtani on the advice of his handlers who are protecting his best interest. Its obvious you have never played pro baseball there is a lot going on behind the scenes if you understood what his agent or marketing representaive put out to the news media. Yubaru stick to T-ball!!!

Otani should get a new agent and different people around him advising him! He was asked to get imaging done on his elbow nearly a month before the tear was officially identified. He was battling fatigue and arm problems then, and his "handlers" refused the request!

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@TorafusuTorasan Correct there is definitely something that has gone wrong with Ohtani. I agree been through that before. The players are the ones who know they are hurt once this happens the players notify the team doctors that they have a problem. After all they are under contract to that team and the team has a right to know whether or not players are injured or not. Once the team doctor checks them out he then gives his opinion, from there the player goes out and get a second opinion from his own personal doctor and this is what I am sure Ohtani did. You are correct the managers job is to manage the players on the field along with the coaches he hired and their job is to field the best available healthy players. True player do hide injuries especially if they know they are in a contract year, because they could be labeled damaged goods. The teams have to make sure that players are healthy because should their be a trade and the player goes over to another team that team will give him a physical and if he does not pass the physical the trade could be voided. Yuburu doesn't get it just a die hard fan!!!

Yeah, this article has not aged well. Ohtani was benched after something went wrong during batting practice today.

The buck should stop with Ohtani and not Nez Balelo, Ippei, or whomever. The players are the ones who make the call to visit a doctor for what ails them, unless they are rendered unconscious. The coaches are working under the assumption that the players under their charge are healthy and not hiding any issues.

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@Yubaru Sign up for stick ball you would be great at that. Maybe come off the bench in extra innings!

Otani should get a new agent and different people around him advising him! He was asked to get imaging done on his elbow nearly a month before the tear was officially identified. He was battling fatigue and arm problems then, and his "handlers" refused the request!

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@kaimychal--Yubaru did link to a Yomiuri article a while back about unnamed representatives. The mods removed it though.

Makes you wonder if that term is just a euphemism for Ippei without outing him. He is literally the guy representing Shohei daily to the English speaking side. He must have plenty of legal representation in Japan as that is where the majority of his income is earned, but it is not their job to announce his aches and pains to the team. It is like the old joke about how many people are needed to replace a light bulb.

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It astounds me how an organization could have two transcendent, first ballot HOFers in their primes and still be a complete dumpster fire. Of course, as a Mariners fan, I've seen that story before...

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 I am sure he has the best minds to advise him. I don't think it is the team doctors its Ohtani on the advice of his handlers who are protecting his best interest. Its obvious you have never played pro baseball there is a lot going on behind the scenes if you understood what his agent or marketing representaive put out to the news media. Yubaru stick to T-ball!!!

You assume much here. If his handlers were so brilliant, they would not have refused allowing him to have an mri done over a month ago. (That's a fact, not conjecture!) He was showing signs of fatigue then.

It's obvious you know nothing of pro sports today.

 You are correct the managers job is to manage the players on the field along with the coaches he hired and their job is to field the best available healthy players. 

Their job is to also manage their players, which includes ensuring they are healthy as well!

The tail doesnt wag the dog, as you suggest! Everything else you wrote is garbage!

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The buck should stop with Ohtani and not Nez Balelo, Ippei, or whomever. The players are the ones who make the call to visit a doctor for what ails them, unless they are rendered unconscious. The coaches are working under the assumption that the players under their charge are healthy and not hiding any issues.

This is one of THE most ignorant statements I have ever seen written here about responsibility in a team sport.

The proverbial "buck" on the field stops and starts with the manager/a.k.a. head coach, not the players, nor the agents, or any "handlers" for that matter. If the manager tells a player to sit, they sit, like it or not. Managers take many things into consideration, and many times may leave a decision up to the player, but it's not on the player to decide who plays and the Angels organization, obviously has problems and that has been WELL noted in numerous media reports, from any number of sources, easily found with Dr. Google!

You obviously have no experience in being a coach, player, or any other position, in team sports. I have literally years of experience both as a player, coach, and head of a teams sports association, and my opinions and comments are based upon that experience and not on assumptions nor suppositions.

My comments are also based upon what I have gleaned from the media reports, and an ability to "read between the lines". Your snarky comments are born, it seems to me, from an endearing love of Otani, and as a fan of his, I get you cant stand the idea that your idol is not the picture of perfection. Kind of like all the Suzuki Ichiro disciples who always thought he was a god too!

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Pitching and hitting by Ohtani is such a unique thing to view, I very much hope he comes back to pitch, again. Obviously, his heater helps him a lot, but he could reinvent himself, should it be required, his other pitches are outstanding.

The argument of not getting his problems recognized quick enough is moot for me. He wants to pitch, the team isn't out to ruin his arm, but did want to compete for the playoffs. The Angels failed their own organization by not trading him at the deadline, but I have no problem with the timeline of Ohtani's arm woes. Injuries happens.

Teams can wrong a player. In hockey, Jack Eichel wanted an artificial disk replacement in his neck, a fairly experimental, but shown to be successful surgery, while the Buffalo team he was playing for wanted a different procedure done.

It forced a trade, Eichel got the surgery he preferred, and in his second season with his new team, Las Vegas, he led the team to a Stanley Cup championship. I believe the athlete and the team should get their own diagnose done. The player has to protect his own body, and it is up to that athlete to do what's right for them.

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