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Ohtani won't pitch for rest of season because of tear in elbow ligament, Angels GM says

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because of arm fatigue

Nah.....he's just tired of carrying the losers.

Just waiting it out for free agency.

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The day is coming where he is going to have to make a choice between either pitching or batting. He has had quite a few problems this year with blisters, broken finger nails, and now arm fatigue.

His durability is going to come into question when contract talks start heating up.

He is, right now, undeniably one of the best players in the game, but no team is going to want to pay him 600 million for 10 years, if they think he wont be at the level he is today.

I'll be willing to bet he gets a shorter contract, with higher per year amount, that sets a new record for mlb.

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Nah.....he's just tired of carrying the losers.

> Just waiting it out for free agency.

Indeed. Angels will forever be know as the team the squandered in his prime not only a generational talent, but a lifetime one at that. Along with Mike Trout, the Angels possess two of the greatest players ever to exist.

As an example of their futility and in the 13 years that followed their 2002 World Series championship, the Angels have failed to win a single playoff game. Notably, their only appearance resulted in a first-round sweep in 2014.

Adios, Angels.

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 but no team is going to want to pay him 600 million for 10 years, if they think he wont be at the level he is today.

clearly you haven't seen some of that absolutly absurd deals that have been coming out over the last couple of years.

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Oof, this sucks. On his way to getting his first MVP, hope he won't need that TJ surgery or he will be gone until maybe the second half of 2024. Hope they take care of him, he's been overworking a whole lot this year. One of the reasons why I wished he didn't attend the all-star game so that he could get some rest.

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The Angels messed up not trading him; best of luck to Ohtani-san, I hope he has the ability to know when to rest, he seems to have tried to carry a mediocre team on his back.

He has had an amazing year and should be a lock for American League MVP. I wonder whether he will only sign with a team that allows him to keep pitching and hitting. As good as his pitching is, his greatest value might be as a designated hitter, that way he could have less wear and tear and last longer, he is so good for the game and MLB; may he play as many years as he wants and is able.

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Without pitching the rest of the season, Ohtani may not meet the minimum requirements for some season pitching awards. May affect his bonuses

If he needs Tommy John surgery, he's a free agent after this season, so may affect his next contract since he's going to miss significant time

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Terrible! He is the only reason I am interested in baseball now.

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Redemption: "Terrible! He is the only reason I am interested in baseball now."

Good timing! I was wondering what the bandwagon fans were going to do now, but to mention the entire hour of the news every night devoted to "Sho-time".

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Nah.....he's just tired of carrying the losers.

Just waiting it out for free agency.

A torn UCL is a much more than arm fatigue.

Indeed. Angels will forever be know as the team the squandered in his prime not only a generational talent, but a lifetime one at that. Along with Mike Trout, the Angels possess two of the greatest players ever to exist.

and Ohtani chose to be with the Angels despite your little lesson of their horrible history. Teams choose players and players choose teams. Why do you care about what a non contending team does? Shouldn't your energy be on the great team you obviously support.

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He is, right now, undeniably one of the best players in the game, but no team is going to want to pay him 600 million for 10 years, if they think he wont be at the level he is today.

So he has hit two HR with a bum elbow, and is such an attraction, any team with money can promote and PR the heck out of Ohtani. Clearly, 600 million isn't an impossibility, TJ, or not.

The value of sport stars continually rise for those who have an international following, charisma and game (Or had game). If you haven't noticed, there was recently a cool 146 million dollar transfer fee for Caiceido. Messi was offered a reported 1.5 billion for 3 years in Saudi Arabia, of which he turned down.

What is 600 million to most is a relative drop in the bucket for multi billionaire owners and they would more than likely make back much, if not all, and more of the cost thru a player of Ohtani's stature on the team.

Sports ownership is a lucrative business because assets of high quality increase the value of the team, because of name familiarity worth.

Ohtani with any team is going to increase the team value immediately and his presence would sell so many more tickets and Ohtani goods, there's little chance the team wouldn't make an overall financial gain by signing Ohtani. Obviously, the owner market has to be handle the cost, but large markets can and will be after his services.

The only person who really fails here, is Moreno, who isn't as rich as some of the other owners and should have traded for assets, but some of us knew that at the deadline. Injury is just another factor why he should have been traded, and now, will be lost for nothing and no playoffs, either.

A terribly bad decision by a dumb owner.

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These things happen. I am glad they are respecting his health needs.

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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38248633/angels-shohei-ohtani-elbow-tear-pitch-again-season

What a shame. I hope he fully recovers!

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How does not trading him look now. Morons. I hope he heals properly, walks away and gets 500-600 at a contender as he deserves.

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The LOST Angeles Angels are now in damage goods mode if you know anything about baseball. Shohei Ohtani is a free agent after this year. The Angels know this and they are basically telling every major league team he has some injuries which Ohtani admitted to himself. This means any team that is in the running to negotiate a contract with him will require extensive medical reports which means the Angels are trying to keep the cost down to be in the running to negotiate with anyone trying to sign Shohei. On the other hand teams will sign him but require him not to pitch at all. Because Shohei said he doesn't feel the pain but acknowledges something isn't right means he will be seeing Dr. Jobe one of the leading experts in treating athletes in the US for such injuries I saw him before he became well known for my torn rotator cuff injury from my minor league playing days. All the signs are there where the Angles are announcing to other teams and they do this well on the minor league level to try to protect and hide players and drive contract negotiations downward. The Angels said

"Shohei Ohtani won’t pitch for the rest of the season because of a tear in an elbow ligament

The Angels don’t yet know whether Ohtani will need surgery to repair the UCL ligament which means he has to be evaluated

Ohtani's velocity was down across the board which means they are saying he is having problems in early innings, although he sometimes ramps up his pitching speeds gradually in the opening innings.

The Angels are trying to pretend they are nice but in a destroy mode. It is cut throat baseball and all the teams do it!!!!

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I was watching the game and the announcers kept referring to it as arm fatigue. I was hoping that's all it was but a torn ligament is some serious stuff. Talk about bad timing. Could dent his wallet this upcoming post-season free agency.

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If Ohtani requires another Tommy John surgery, that possible $500+ Million free agent contract is off the table because any team won't know what his future pitching prospect would be. Is he gonna come back as a starting pitcher, or is he gonna transition to a reliever (like Hall of Famer John Smoltz did), or is he even gonna pitch at all

His free agent contract may be 2-tiered - 1 tier would be as the standard designated hitter contract, while another tier as a pitcher full of incentives for milestones and accomplishments since they don't know how much he's going to pitch

Ironically, this tragedy would put the Angels back as a good possible destination for Ohtani because this lowers his asking price that the Angels can afford, while other teams would likely put more conditions on him due to his recurring injury which he may not like (in contrast with the Angels, he's running the place by now)

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smithinjapanAug. 24 05:04 pm JST

Redemption: "Terrible! He is the only reason I am interested in baseball now."

> Good timing! I was wondering what the bandwagon fans were going to do now, but to mention the entire hour of the news every night devoted to "Sho-time

You and I both. I definitely do wish him well though as injuries like these are sometimes career-threatening. As a Yankees fan, it truly sucked seeing Aaron Judge out for 2 months during the heart of the season when they really needed him. Both teams lose their MVP and both teams are headed for the scrap heap.

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This poor guy just cannot catch a break.

Even more than his talent, I love the respect and the pure joy with which he plays the game. He doesn't show anyone up. He's not a diva. Nobody has a beef with him. He's the anti-Bryce Harper.

I want him to get paid because it is a measure of his success and his value, but we all know he's not playing the game for the money. He lived at the team dorm by choice in Japan so that he could be closer to the facilities.

This injury is going to impact his free agency because teams will rightly worry about his long term arm health. (Strasburg in DC retired today due to health reasons after only pitching something like 31 innings after signing a $245 million deal post MVP campaign.) He will still have his choice of suitors, but I personally think the contract terms will be reduced.

I would be very happy to be mistaken.

He is still this year's MVP, likely a unanimous choice.

He is still an all-star every year as a hitter as long as he produces like this. He is still in the conversation for the best player in baseball even if he is "only" A DH. And I think he is still a very likely 1st ballot HOF inductee.

But this is a big blow for him, and for the game. I really feel for the guy.

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Instead of $500 million, he'll get $300 million. There are far worse things in life.

To me, the biggest drawback of all this is that now many potential Ohtani's will be told 'hey kid, don't try it. Ohtani did it, but blew out his pitching arm in doing so. You can try it, but you're risking too much - not worth it.'

Just for the sake of the above, I hope Ohtani can make a pitching comeback in the 2025 season.

He's done a lot for the game of baseball and having a true unicorn was really fun.

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Shohei had a great season as a pitcher anyway.

Get better soon!

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To me, the biggest drawback of all this is that now many potential Ohtani's will be told 'hey kid, don't try it. Ohtani did it, but blew out his pitching arm in doing so. You can try it, but you're risking too much - not worth it.'

If he had only went to the MLB following HS, one can only wonder if this would have never happened!

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He'll continue to DH this year.

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