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Go! Spread the word, open people's eyes and minds.

-28 ( +22 / -50 )

Another example of how the Olympics are not about the sport. The Olympics now embody the spirit of Money, Corruption, and Politics.

50 ( +58 / -8 )

Well done Girl !!!...

In a country where most conservative whites believe they have priority and "white privileges" over other racial groups, turning your back on the flag during the anthem is a completely valid protest, it is a scream against the immense racism and social inequality of the supposedly "best country in the world", even those who are against and deny the country's systematic racism, are part of the problem.. Third world !!..

-38 ( +26 / -64 )

Get ready for the Tokyo Olympics folks where it won't be about medals, it is about who is the most woke whether protesting is allowed or not.

39 ( +56 / -17 )

Ms. Berry needs to grow up. She can protest and virtue signal all she wants, on her own time. At competitions like this, where ironically she is competing to REPRESENT her country, she should show at least a hint of gratitude and also respect to the people watching. This aint all about YOU, sweetheart.

24 ( +52 / -28 )

What is even the point of national anthem ? It's nothing but a way of churning out nationalism, which serves only the top 1%.

-16 ( +22 / -38 )

Stupid. Reverse rasism.

10 ( +40 / -30 )

Well! I should have got first! How can you ignore these eyelashes?

11 ( +24 / -13 )

@Euro Dude

How can showing disdain for you own flag be “racist”?

Or are you suggesting it’s a flag for white folk only?

-9 ( +21 / -30 )

3rd place is second loser..... I don't think anyone will pay her any attention. Even less as its Hammer throw, an event that is widely ignored on a good day.

13 ( +31 / -18 )

In a country where most conservative whites believe they have priority and "white privileges"

But White liberals think that they have the right to indoctrinate our children across the country and feed them CRT garbage that is thankfully gaining steam and being rejected by all Americans is a very somber feeling. It's White liberals that feel they have the right to stir up hatred for the country and its history.

over other racial groups, turning your back on the flag during the anthem is a completely valid protest,

Then why compete for the country, go, leave and find a country you like and hold that flag up high, but as it is your right to protest, it's the sponsor's right to drop you like a hot potato if they so choose.

it is a scream against the immense racism and social inequality of the supposedly "best country in the world",

Like what? Some of the richest people in the US are Black, some of the most powerful people are Black, if the country were racist these people couldn't achieve success at the highest level.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-billionaires-rich-forbes/

even those who are against and deny the country's systematic racism,

Not one Democrat, NOT a single one when asked can give detailed and factual proof of systematic racism or what that is. Is the US perfect, no it's not and no country is, but Blacks in the US overall have achieved more wealth and power than anywhere else on the planet.

2 ( +33 / -31 )

What the heck is CRT garbage?

3 ( +15 / -12 )

Rolls eyes…….

yes yes, the USA is only blacks and whites, no one else exists……

if she really wanted to make a statement, she should’ve gotten first, and be a positive example.

instead it just makes her look like a sore loser.

hey, I’m all for equality every where. But learn to pick your spots.

17 ( +33 / -16 )

Poor thing…probably has often hurt herself with the hammer during many years of training, now turning in visible behavioral bias.

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zichi:

CRT = Critical Race Theory.

I think that’s what Bass is referring to.

20 ( +23 / -3 )

Quite the role model. Maybe there is another country she would be proud to represent.

12 ( +28 / -16 )

That trash bag wants to disrespect the Americans Flag she can go throw the hammer for another country that wants to put up with this jackass that thinks that there is a massive racist issues & injustice in the USA.. if she really cared about black lives she an every other idiot can go to all the Major cities like Chicago an stop the genocide of black people killing each other by the thousands! These social justice warriors are hacks an are 100% politically motivated!

9 ( +29 / -20 )

My God. Just tell the truth that you hate your nation. Move somewhere else, represent that other country if they allow you to compete and leave all this farce behind. Problem solved.

11 ( +29 / -18 )

Taking the Kaepernick Route to Riches, huh? Pathetic.

Not good enough to place first or second, and barely able to make it to third (similar to Also-Ran Super Bowl losing Kraepernick), this Nobody Berry's Pouting Policy will be lauded to the skies by the Woke-ites who have been brainwashed to hate a country that nevertheless provides blacks with THE best chance at opportunities and success offered them anywhere on earth, hands down, while the equally opportunist photographer will win a Pulitzer for, you know, "moving the needle". Or whatever.

Hammer throw...lol.

4 ( +18 / -14 )

At competitions like this, where ironically she is competing to REPRESENT her country

I've always liked to think the Olympics was about individual talent and not the nationalist notion of representing one's country. They should drop the flag and anthem thing at the medal ceremonies. If we need medal tables, use something more international such as year of birth or zodiac signs.

-9 ( +9 / -18 )

Unsportsmanlike conduct. Send her home. I will be rooting for Price.

8 ( +21 / -13 )

Who paid for her training?

9 ( +23 / -14 )

Make her stay home. He doesn't deserve to be a representative of the US. Disgraceful.

8 ( +25 / -17 )

My God. Just tell the truth that you hate your nation. Move somewhere else, represent that other country if they allow you to compete and leave all this farce behind. Problem solved.

Right and I wouldn’t have a problem with that, but doing this, really makes you look like an idiot crying for attention.

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The most WOKE olympics in history, use it for political gain and not for sportsmanship !!

It's coming at us from every direction out of this games, gender agenda, racist bias, political statements at every chance.

Sport is about Winning not Whining !!

9 ( +20 / -11 )

Why run in the first place then? If you are so convinced the US is racist, why represent it? Funny how a country that is so racist towards black people are disproportionately represented in the US media, Hollywood, and sports...

8 ( +22 / -14 )

All of it drew virtually no reaction from the still-filling stands. 

More you repeat it, less significant it becomes.

10 ( +13 / -3 )

More you repeat it, less significant it becomes.

Actually, the more it gets normalized.

First take a knee, then turn your back on the flag.

Next it'll be flipping the bird directly at the flag during the ceremony.

It's a coming.

9 ( +19 / -10 )

Well, not much chance that she'll be standing on the winner's podium, fortunately. I'll be cheering on the other athletes, who actually like their countries.

4 ( +12 / -8 )

Hammer Throw, That is defiantly not where the money is, After all these years, I'm not sure if I ever saw it. LOL

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The hammer and the shot were two sports in my school. Managed a few feet.

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Actually, the more it gets normalized.

First take a knee, then turn your back on the flag.

Next it'll be flipping the bird directly at the flag during the ceremony.

It's a coming.

I was thinking the same thing.

8 ( +19 / -11 )

People who are not offended by racism are offended when someone takes an action which brings it to light.

No wonder a disgusting racist like donald received 74 million votes!!!

-1 ( +16 / -17 )

The athletes represent their country in the Olympics, not themselves.

6 ( +15 / -9 )

Maybe Gwen Berry would like to not be in the US?

If so, she is welcome to leave....

4 ( +15 / -11 )

‘Freedom of expression’ …verging of disgrace. Grace and honor amongst her co-competitors would attract way more attention to righteous causes.

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Perhaps it would say more for Berry to decline her country’s 3rd position and it be awarded to the more gracious 4th spot, Comanche Nation’s Janee Kassanavoid?

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@Commodore Perry

Make her stay home. He doesn't deserve to be a representative of the US. Disgraceful.

Totally agree! Even though we have a lot of differences of opinion based on our posts, it is important not to be tribal and acknowledge each other's thoughts, positively or negatively.

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ObjectiveToday  06:55 pm JST

@Commodore Perry

Make her stay home. He doesn't deserve to be a representative of the US. Disgraceful.

Totally agree! Even though we have a lot of differences of opinion based on our posts, it is important not to be tribal and acknowledge each other's thoughts, positively or negatively.

I thought we agree in everything.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

If I hadn’t read the story and only saw the picture I would have thought she was throwing a petulant childish strop because she didn’t win.

Having read the story, I still think she is throwing a deliberately calculated petulant strop to gain a degree of fame (and possibility of money) her abilities will never win her.

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Commodore PerryToday  07:16 pm JST

I thought we agree in everything.

It is funny when you don't know someone but you build a picture of them based on their words. I am sure with all of the arguments on this forum, most of us would get along in a pub and the differences in opinion would be just taking shots at each other while laughing about it. Life is short.

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People who are not offended by racism are offended when someone takes an action which brings it to light.

Do it on your own time, her doing that will overshadow everything else she’s done, no one will remember her for athletic attributes. When you’re being sponsored and represent the US, politics shouldn’t even enter the games, why are these people selfish to the point where with everything we hear and deal with are bombarded with political nonsense all day, sports should be an event that should unite us and allow us to put our differences, whatever they may be to the side for a moment, but for the PC police snd woke fools, we are once again forced to watch another selfish athlete deny us the pleasure of escapism, this is why these games will probably be the least watched.

No wonder a disgusting racist like donald received 74 million votes!!!

Where did that come from? What does Trump have anything at all to do with this thread? Relax!

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Btw: Some, @Objective 7:55pm particularly sensitive indigenous people may be offended by the incongruous use of the word “*tribal**”.*

*- “Even though we have a lot of differences of opinion, it is important not to be tribal [???] and acknowledge each other's thoughts, positively…” -*

Perhaps it comes from a ‘lack of knowledge’ of the ‘developing dialogue’ regarding North American indigenous people regarded as First Nations.

For Indigenous people, tribal identity is important. So, when non-Native people say “find your tribe”, “tribal” or “tribe” to incorrectly describe groups of shared interest, it is offensive because it erases the significance ofTribal sovereignty”, identity, and the people.

Instead, we can use other, more appropriate words regarding other “groups, crews, friends, or circles.”

Considering your post above, we know you will never stand and share this knowledge with others in our shared world. - Thank you for coming to understand and - “Peace to All”.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Maybe Gwen Berry would like to not be in the US?

If so, she is welcome to leave....

Why, isn’t the US the land of freedom?

Or is that only for the privileged?

Do it on your own time,

She is, not taking any time away from the racists.

What does Trump have anything at all to do with this thread? Relax!

Now that the racist is down and out, I am.

The racists is not relaxed though, the whining is getting tiresome!!!

-1 ( +9 / -10 )

Correction @8:40pm “ … *we know you will understand and share this knowledge with others*…”,

NOT “…never stand…” - Thx.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Why, isn’t the US the land of freedom?

Or is that only for the privileged?

She is free to go and protest on her own time and the US is equally free not to sponsor her.

She is, not taking any time away from the racists.

I’m paying to watch her perform, not to protest, I could care less about her political beliefs, she should do what she was trained to do as an athlete.

Now that the racist is down and out, I am.

The racists is not relaxed though, the whining is getting tiresome!!!

I don’t have a clue what that all meant, but if the IOC wants to make a Trans category, go for it, do it all day, but this notion that a biological born man is a woman’s equivalent is just ridiculous to its core.

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Maybe  Gwen Berry would like to live in America as she does but bring attention to the suffering of their people.

1 ( +12 / -11 )

She is free to go and protest on her own time and the US is equally free not to sponsor her.

That’s not your decision.The US government provides protection to a man who tried to overturn the constitution, so I don’t think this is big on their list.

I’m paying to watch her perform, 

You are free not to pay, or not to watch.

I don’t have a clue what that all meant

No surprise, lot of people do not understand democracy!!!

2 ( +11 / -9 )

but this notion that a biological born man is a woman’s equivalent is just ridiculous to its core.

What is even more ridiculous is that a biological born person is not equal to another because of their race. But the racists cannot be bothered with that!!!

1 ( +10 / -9 )

So America is not not the land of the free and the First Amendent?

3 ( +11 / -8 )

That’s not your decision.

As a paying consumer, yes it is

The US government provides protection to a man who tried to overturn the constitution

Biden has nothing to do with this and once again, the left thinks that a biological born man who claims one that he feels like she/woman is perfectly acceptable.

You are free not to pay, or not to watch. 

Most definitely.

No surprise, a lot of people do not understand democracy!!!

Tell that to the athlete that is trying to hijack the games for her own personal selfish gains.

So America is not not the land of the free and the First Amendment?

You're making a weak argument, if I shot someone that is my amendment right or if I throw a brick at her head, it's ok since it's my first amendment right. For that matter let's take everything out of context and use the first amendment and apply that to every single situation.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

First Amendment is not about shooting someone or throwing bricks. It's about the freedom of speech and expression.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

Perhaps @bass4funk & @ulysses, there is to much outrage & debate going on over a childlike, pouting, show-off narcissist using her last days in the Olympic arena to garner attention for her own agendas and possibly to keep herself relevant and in the public eye to perpetuate a future fallback career once her body calls it quits? (jeez, look at the style-choices in the accompanying photos. She thrives on attention!)

Where is the equivalent outrage and debate for the Canadian Olympic athlete being denied her gods-given maternal rights to breastfeed her infant between games at the Olympics?

*- “Need to breastfeed could block Canadian's path to Olympics” - Jun 25 - A Canadian basketball player is being “forced to decide between being a breastfeeding mom or an Olympic athlete.” -*

Perhaps the point is: It’s all point*less**, of no real *consequence and just something to do to amuse ourselves and one-up each other while these ridiculous Games continue on the international stage.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

The US is being torn apart by racism.

Black racism.

1 ( +11 / -10 )

First Amendment is not about shooting someone or throwing bricks. It's about the freedom of speech and expression.

You just basically made my point for me again, thanks.

-1 ( +8 / -9 )

3rd place in the US trials is the highest she will place, in Tokyo her performance will be unnoticed.

This was her only opportunity to garner attention, and steal the spotlight from the privileged athletes who beat her.

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bass4funk

So you are saying these athletes don't have any First Amendment rights. Didn't the SC judge otherwise?

I don't see how a single protest like this one is hijacking an international event. The various sport owners and sports associations have given their agreements that it's allowed. Taking the knee. Trump tried to stop it but failed. You don't even attend these events.

"So to your point then I could physically harm anyone I want or stop people from doing whatever it is that they do because I want to voice my opinion and exercise my 1st amendment rights in the way I see and FEEL fit. Because I say so, so either you support the 1st amendment or you want to do what liberals usually do, cherry-pick the portions that fit your partisan narrative, which is it?"

More of your nonsense I can not understand. I did not even say any of that. You post weird stuff at times. Like I don't have any partisan narrative. Must be confusing me with someone else.

I am not a democrat to republican. Heck, I'm not even American.

"You're making a weak argument, if I shot someone that is my amendment right or if I throw a brick at her head, it's ok since it's my first amendment right. For that matter let's take everything out of context and use the first amendment and apply that to every single situation."

Just pure BS. You twist until we no longer understand what you are talking about.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

This was her only opportunity to garner attention, and steal the spotlight from the privileged athletes who beat her.

Exactly!

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

Good. All these angry comments only show that this type of protest is both necessary and efficient.

4 ( +11 / -7 )

Good. All these angry comments only show that this type of protest is both necessary and efficient.

And the benefit of that would be what, get attention and then what? You get your 5 min of fame and then? Maybe the smarter thing to do would be to have a press conference where now you have everyone's attention and can open up a real debate. Not that hard to figure out.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Maybe the smarter thing to do would be to have a press conference

Because mainstream media are famously open to listening to sports people talk about race and other social issues. Also, I'd love to see the comment section under a report on that, if it were even realistic. Anyway, she had everyone's attention already and that's how she used the opportunity.

Thanks for proving my point about efficiency though.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Do American athletes have the right to protest? In fact, do any Americans have the right to protest?

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Do American athletes have the right to protest? In fact, do any Americans have the right to protest?

Rhetorical Question? Depends, liberals will allow protesting and the 1st amendment if they think it helps their political cause or that there is some merit to gain if it's in opposition to something they don't like or feel that it is politically harmful to their cause especially when it comes to conservatives, then they will object to it and even try to downplay or stop it and use some form of euphemism and call it racial unrest or defiance. So basically, liberals are always allowed to protest regardless of who it inconveniences, conservatives on the other hand are not allowed the same basic American rights.

-3 ( +5 / -8 )

Flags and national anthems are sooo 20th century. True love of country, real "patriotism", is, like religion, a deeply personal matter kept in the heart, not to be mistaken for ostentatious flag-hugging and that phony stuff worn on the sleeve or pinned on the lapels of politicians. The great duo of Tommie Smith and John Carlos who were sent home from the Mexico City Games in 1968, not forgetting the brave Australian silver medalist, Peter Norman, whose athletic career was terminated by Ozzie officialdom, will always stand tall for future generations as symbols of civic courage over hypocritical "patriotism".

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Flags and national anthems are sooo 20th century. True love of country, real "patriotism", is, like religion, a deeply personal matter kept in the heart,

According to whom?

not to be mistaken for ostentatious flag-hugging and that phony stuff worn on the sleeve or pinned on the lapels of politicians.

What's wrong with that?

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

While @Objective 11:19pm we don’t think your comments were intentionally meant to be hurtful, indigenous people identify with each other as such. 

Respectfully, it’s our word that has a significance to our people and we prefer that it wouldn’t be used out of context. (Perhaps read the posts in the contexts they were written earlier today?) The issue centers around the arbitrary use of the word “tribal” and it sounded like you would respect other people’s ideals, as well as yours. *Are you not truly “Objective”?**

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

*This *@Objective 11:19pm was the lasting impression we had of your point of view:

*“Even though we have a lot of differences of opinion based on our posts, it is important not to be tribal and acknowledge each other's thoughts, positively or negatively.” -*

You posted it immediately after someone was identified as part of the Comanche Nation. Then, you obstinately use it again here to make Your point?

*“social progressivism is not in my dictionary. I do not belong to that "tribe" or any other. Labelling oneself as such weakens the mind and ones opportunities,…”*

Will you not give that same respect, instead of continuing to use the word to your own designs when it was requested otherwise?

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@Kentarogaijin There is only the human race, and no one believes they have white privilege over anyone. White privilege also is a myth.

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Rhetorical Question? Depends, liberals will allow protesting and the 1st amendment if they think it helps their political cause or that there is some merit to gain if it's in opposition to something they don't like or feel that it is politically harmful to their cause especially when it comes to conservatives, then they will object to it and even try to downplay or stop it and use some form of euphemism and call it racial unrest or defiance. So basically, liberals are always allowed to protest regardless of who it inconveniences, conservatives on the other hand are not allowed the same basic American rights.

Do not make much sense. Didn't answer the question if athletes have the right to protest or not. Who are the liberals you claim? And who are the conservatives blocked from freedom of speech?

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Do not make much sense.

Because you’re not happy with a counter argument of the exact same topic, it’s just the rules are different when it involves liberals.

Didn't answer the question if athletes have the right to protest or not.

Again, of course. Do conservatives have the right to protest as well, regardless of what it is, yes or no? Please answer the question.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Do conservatives have the right to protest as well, regardless of what it is, yes or no?

Conservatives don't have the right to start insurrections. Nor did they have the right to start riots during the BLM protests last year.

Not that not having this right stops them. They have no problem with starting insurrections and starting riots during legitimate protests.

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Conservatives don't have the right to start insurrections.

That wasn’t my question and Zichi couldn’t and wouldn’t answer because he knew exactly that he got caught in one of his typical hypocritical statements. Again, the question is very easy and simple, Zichi and other libs think to hijack and usurp an event like the Olympics it oder to prove a political point is ok. If that is the case then by his own statements, conservatives should equally have the exact same right to have their voices heard, that is, “if you are a fair person” you’ll allow it

Nor did they have the right to start riots during the BLM protests last year.

But they had the right to engage in protest, riot, loot and cause billions in destruction?

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

Well get ready for more and not just from the USA.

In Canada they are cancelling all Canada Day events because of the most recent Residential Schools graves discoveries.

And now there are call to not use the Canadian flag or anthem at the Olympics if Canadians win any medals.

So much for the non political and truce resolution of 1994.

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Just to remind people what is not may but will happen if such "Activism" is permitted.

Armenians protesting Turkey, Korean doing the same about Japan, China and Japan, ethnic Chinese from various countries over China and Hong Kong, Muslim towards China and the Uyghurs, Pakistan and India, Ukraine and Russia, just to name a few.

The list will be far to long and the Activism far to many.

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bass4funk

at 1.25 am your post

"Again, of course. Do conservatives have the right to protest as well, regardless of what it is, yes or no? Please answer the question."

then because I have not replied at 2:47am your post

"That wasn’t my question and Zichi couldn’t and wouldn’t answer because he knew exactly that he got caught in one of his typical hypocritical statements."

Got up to make some calls to America.

In answer to your question, all athletes have the right to protest regardless of their political standing.

Conservates have the right to free speech and expression just like all Americans,

Provided they are not breaking other laws like invading the Capitol Building on Jan 6. The majority stayed outside but about 1,000 entered the building.

After the FBI and police investigations, the majority of protestors on the BLM were peaceful law-abiding people. A minority broke the law with looting.

I think it must be very difficult for someone like you who can only view the world in terms of liberal/democrat and conservative/republican. But I guess that happens to some people from America.

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Conservates have the right to free speech and expression just like all Americans,

Provided they are not breaking other laws like invading the Capitol Building on Jan 6. The majority stayed outside but about 1,000 entered the building.

Great! Then you also agree with me that the riots from last year by liberal BLM and Antifa were equally wrong as well since they were breaking the law, right?

After the FBI and police investigations, the majority of protestors on the BLM were peaceful law-abiding people.

No, they weren’t, there are hundreds of videos that show otherwise. Forget the FBI, their credibility is already tarnished enough as it is. Listen to what the police wee saying, watch videos, listen to the testimony of many black shop owners that lost their businesses and no one came to help them, not even BLM members.

A minority broke the law with looting.

Not “a” person, many people across the country.

I think it must be very difficult for someone like you who can only view the world in terms of liberal/democrat and conservative/republican.

No, I see the world not in the way the left want and try to make me see it. I see it for what it is, not what I would like it to be.

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zichiToday  03:12 am JST

In answer to your question, all athletes have the right to protest regardless of their political standing.

And we have the right to criticize them. You kind of have to be American to understand this principle it seems.

zichiToday  03:12 am JST

Provided they are not breaking other laws like invading the Capitol Building on Jan 6. The majority stayed outside but about 1,000 entered the building.

After the FBI and police investigations, the majority of protestors on the BLM were peaceful law-abiding people. A minority broke the law with looting.

What about arson?

https://humanevents.com/2021/06/24/blm-protesters-commit-arson-attack-on-south-carolina-police-station-after-arrest/

And Homicide:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

It was estimated there were 10,000 people in the Capitol crowd. Only about 550 were arrested. So, to use your partial quote, "A minority broke the law."

And in comparison more than 10,000 people were arrested at BLM and similar protests last year.

https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-cnn-camera-crew-attacked-at-protest-with-blm-supporters-forced-to-retreat-from-scene

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/556552-former-leader-of-black-lives-matter-slams-the-organization

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

So according to you, free speech is ok if it’s not breaking the law. Well, I guess looking at these incidents a lot of laws were broken.

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What the heck is CRT garbage?

CRT, critical race theory, is essentially REAL American History, so the fear and loathing flowing from average White folks is simply their terrified-to-the-point-of-violence refusal to even peek into the mirror of their own souls. This comes from the same dark hole as does religious insan...beliefs and require no rational thought but only a closed and aggressive response to anyone who threatens to send facts into their carefully protected socially perpetuated psychoses...their faiths. True American History is 'blasphemy' to them but, on the other hand, who would want to acknowledge they are citizens of a country founded and expanded by monsters? That is what we ask of these sad, narrow minds, learn the reality, and we get what they are capable of...

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William BjornsonToday  04:13 am JST

CRT, critical race theory, is essentially REAL American History.

No, it is just a theory.

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And in comparison more than 10,000 people were arrested at BLM and similar protests last year.

and what were they arrested for?

"Los Angeles Chief Michel Moore told the city’s Police Commission Tuesday the bulk of the arrests, about 2,500, were for failure to disperse or curfew violations."

"Many of the arrests have been for low-level offences such as curfew violations and failure to disperse. Hundreds were arrested on burglary and looting charges."

All the protestors entering the Capitol Building were breaking laws but to date, only about 600 have been identified and charged. There could be more to come.

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bass4funk

So according to you, free speech is ok if it’s not breaking the law. Well, I guess looking at these incidents a lot of laws were broken.

Free speech is never breaking the law, just as Gwen Berry did in this post. This action by the athlete and other athletes taking the knee, you want to stop and state should not be allowed.

"The Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters."

"When the Department of Homeland Security released its Homeland Threat Assessment earlier this month, it emphasized that self-proclaimed white supremacist groups are the most dangerous threat to U.S. security. "

https://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/news-and-ideas/black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelmingly-peaceful-our-research-finds

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zichiToday  05:06 am JST

and what were they arrested for?

Not looting and arson.

zichiToday  05:06 am JST

"Los Angeles Chief Michel Moore told the city’s Police Commission Tuesday the bulk of the arrests, about 2,500, were for failure to disperse or curfew violations."

What about the other 7500?

zichiToday  05:06 am JST

"Many of the arrests have been for low-level offences such as curfew violations and failure to disperse. Hundreds were arrested on burglary and looting charges."

Right--burglary and looting are not low-level offenses in the US,

zichiToday  05:06 am JST

All the protestors entering the Capitol Building were breaking laws but to date, only about 600 have been identified and charged. There could be more to come.

600, 700, 800---much much less than 10,000 arrested at BLM protests wouldn't you say?

As Americans know, the riots were from coast to coast. Private property was damaged. Unlike the Capitol protest, which was directed specifically at a government institution.

What does Tiffany have to do with racism? Why loot that store? Animals.

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zichiToday  05:17 am JST

"The Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters."

Americans know differently:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town-police-chief-killed-officers-cities-wounded/story?id=71017820

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racism starts at home!! no laws or protest will make a difference!

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Good. All these angry comments only show that this type of protest is both necessary and efficient.

There are no angry comments. Freedom of expression is a two-way street.

People have the right to disapprove of her action and also to question her motives.

Is this just a flagrant "look at me" moment like Osaka, hoping to collect sponsorship money?

Precisely what is it she is protesting? Is she protecting being Black?

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Good for her!

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Well, what do you know...

Now she says that what she did "was disrespectful." She's backtracked and said she was hot and wanted to be in the shade. She put here shirt over her head because she was hot.

Of course, she also said that she was "set up" because they played the anthem while she was on the podium. The victimhood never ends.

I'm sticking with my statement that it was probably calculated to try to get some *Osaka money. She's trying to play everyone for fools. She just happened to have that shirt on. Yeah, right.

*Osaka money : protection money from companies who think being woke will keep someone from calling them racist and canceling them.

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As a paying consumer, yes it is

and

Biden has nothing to do with this and once again

Most definitely.

Not one clear thought between so many sentences.

You are free to choose what to watch and pay for, unless you are in in N.Korea, donald’s favorite country.

Tell that to the athlete that is trying to hijack the games for her own personal selfish gains.

Racists feel threatened her because she brings up uncomfortably questions about them. And it doesn’t take too much to hijack racist minds.

>

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She lost to two throwers by 7 feet. She’s just a sore loser who snapped when she heard the Anthem, then had to make it look good by holding up a tshirt. She knows she just kissed 10’s of thousands of dollars goodbye, and started working on her Gofundme campaign.

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I have to say, there’s protest and then there’s just disrespectful behavior that is rude to the country she represents.

I was all for Colin taking a knee. I’m not down with this.

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Peaceful protest is a right in a democracy and if it hurts anyone’s racist sensibilities, I don’t think we care much.

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She lost to two throwers by 7 feet. She’s just a sore loser who snapped when she heard the Anthem, then had to make it look good by holding up a tshirt. She knows she just kissed 10’s of thousands of dollars goodbye, and started working on her Gofundme campaign.

ROFL, the followers of the biggest sore loser in American history calling some else that name is hilarious.

She isn’t going to lose any money, probably will get even more sponsors, more attention and it’ll be fun to watch the racists burn!!!!

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rude to the country

A country isn't a person. It doesn't get offended.

There are no angry comments

Sure, people can disapprove. That doesn't make them not angry though. For instance, racism, narrow-mindedness and nationalism make me angry and I express my disaproval with it whenever I deem fit at the same time.

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Nor did they have the right to start riots during the BLM protests last year.

But they had the right to engage in protest, riot, loot and cause billions in destruction?

Oh, I guess they censor the information that the riots during the BLM protests were not the BLM protestors, but rather white-supremacist and right-wing groups trying to run false-flag operations that would be blamed on the otherwise peaceful BLM protests:

A Trump security chief acknowledges role of white supremacist extremists in U.S. urban violence

President Donald Trump’s acting homeland security chief on Wednesday acknowledged that white supremacist extremists played a role in this year’s urban violence in the United States, a revision of the administration’s public descriptions of the political motivations of violent protesters.

And

Wolf also attributed violence to both “white supremacist extremists” and “anarchist extremists,” mentioning white supremacists first, in a speech livestreamed on the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) website.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-supremacists/a-trump-security-chief-acknowledges-role-of-white-supremacist-extremists-in-u-s-urban-violence-idUSKBN26031F

You right-wingers LOVE censorship and HATE to it pointed out that you guys were the ones being violent during the otherwise peaceful BLM protests.

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...libs think to hijack and usurp an event like the Olympics it oder to prove a political point is ok. 

The hypocrisy of claiming that politics have no place in the Olympics and athletes should not demonstrate their personal beliefs in public is easily revealed by examining the historical record that clearly shows the political nature of the Games which governments of every stripe have always sought to exploit. The most famous example of athletes exercising their human right to make a peaceful, symbolic protest happened during the Mexico City Games in 1968 when the black duo of Tommie Smith and John Carlos were sent home and white Australian, Peter Norman, suffered for his support of his two fellow competitors. Those who criticized the athletes for their raised fists had, and still have, nothing to say about the Tlatelolco Square massacre of peacefully protesting students and citizens who were gunned down in cold blood by surrounding military and police snipers acting on the orders of the Mexican government AND, a nod and a wink from the US State Department. Hundreds of innocents were slaughtered (no body count was ever attempted) less than 2 weeks before the opening ceremony, yet the Games were held as if nothing had happened. You couldn't have a more political Olympics than the 1968 blood-drenched Mexico City Games. Several years later I was there and made the acquaintance of a doctor, a woman who as a student had survived the slaughter. The story of her harrowing experience taught me a lesson I'll never forget: the Olympics and politics fit like a raised clenched fist in a black glove.

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Commodore Perry

As you post many times, this articles is not about BLM protests, or thugs invading the Capitol Building. It's about Gwen Berry placing her left hand on her hip and taking a quarter-turn so she was faced the stands, not the flag, while the national anthem played.

Do athletes have this freedom of speech and expression? Many people, sport club owners and sports associations believe they do.

You have the right to disapprove but not stop.

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Did none of you read my comment that she now says that she was just hot and wanted to be in the shade and was not protesting anything??

What's wrong with you people? You just like to argue.

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She has got people talking and thinking. Job well done. Slowly slowly person by person people will start treating people like equals. Even in America

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@u_s__reamer

This is not 1968 or 1988 or any other pre internet pre social media era!

What you and others seem the have is a very myopic view thinking this would be limited to Black American protest and possibly one or two others!

If one goes ahead and nothing is done then you can be assured the rest will follow and there are a lot far more than it seems you and others understand and know.

Ukraine's from the country or ethnic, would do the same over Russia.

Muslims/Pakistani of India and Kashmir, India Tamil of SriLankan, Arabs over Israel over the Palestinians, Muslims and others and China over The Uyghurs, Armenians or ethnic Armenians from other countries over Turkey, ethnic Kurds over Turkey, Shia and Sunni over each other's treatment of the other, ethnic Chinese over Hong Kong, etc...followed by retaliatory actions by those targeted doing similar actions.

It would be a non stop protest festival.

I could keep going with far more if you like but it would end up being a 3 day post!

A little knowledge of what is going on around the world and not just limited to a few western countries would help.

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Well done to Berry and let's see now how the IOC will react to similar expressions of 'freedom of thought'. If they send someone home for it, all athletes should then go home, I personally would

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Muslims/Pakistani of India and Kashmir, India Tamil of SriLankan, Arabs over Israel over the Palestinians, Muslims and others and China over The Uyghurs, Armenians or ethnic Armenians from other countries over Turkey, ethnic Kurds over Turkey, Shia and Sunni over each other's treatment of the other, ethnic Chinese over Hong Kong, etc...followed by retaliatory actions by those targeted doing similar actions.

It would be a non stop protest festival.

A lot of ignorance about the issues across the world here.

However as long as the protest doesn’t violate any rules what is the harm????

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IMO, it's total disrespect for country and also for the sport.

Standing for the national anthem acknowledges all the good that the USA has done and has come to represent over the years, It serves to respect those who had a hand in building this great nation, whereas taking a knee (or the equivalent) draws attention to only the wrongs, short-comings, perceived injustices and is figuratively speaking, like spitting in the face of those who sacrificed themselves for the country. It is an insult.

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Pretty poor form from her, a minor athlete not going to Olympics.

She could have stood there respectfully while raising a "black lives matter" fist in the air. Or wear a George Floyd t-shirt on the podium. But you dont snub your anthem.

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I would never stand for our British anthem. I don't respect or even agree with the wording. One time in the film cinemas they played the national anthem at the end of the show but most just ignored it and piled out.

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First Amendment is not about shooting someone or throwing bricks. It's about the freedom of speech and expression.

According to SCOTUS money also equals free speech and the 1st Amendment guarantees you the right to throw as much money as you wish at the politician of your choice and that politician is not being bribed by your money. Oh no, that is constitutionally protected free speech. The same as taking knee during the national anthem. But which is more corrosive to good government? I ask you !

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I would never stand for our British anthem. I don't respect or even agree with the wording. One time in the film cinemas they played the national anthem at the end of the show but most just ignored it and piled out.

Spoken like a true patriot and proud Liverpudlian, Zichi! "You'll never walk alone", Sir!

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Standing for the national anthem acknowledges all the good that the USA has done and has come to represent over the years,

I guess how much the US has done for one depends strongly upon their race. In the US whites go out of their way every day of the week to treat Black Americans as lesser beings that white Americans. Don't tell me it doesn't happen because I see it every single day. Because I am white older whites tell me exactly what they think. I know how my family views Black Americans and what they call them in private. I have seen cousins use their pick up to run Black drivers off the road, just for fun. A high school buddy saw a Black kids with a nice bicycle on a street near our high school and said "nice bike, where'd you steal it?". It is the daily drumbeat of insults, denied opportunities, violence, cops seeing them as suspicious and pulling them over to search their car and frisk only because they were Black. It is the totality of it every day by so many people that for Blacks in the US, the US isn't always such a great place to them. Look at all the posts above to see the seething racism of many who post here. Blacks are not blind to how much they are hated and resented in the US. They feel it in their bones. And don't say like some above she should move to another country. This is her home, the land she was born in and by God she is equal to any white boy in the US but the whites won't acknowledge her equality. They will look for every way to minimize her and denigrate her, as you see in abundance above.

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Standing for the national anthem acknowledges all the good that the USA has done and has come to represent over the years,

When the bigots rally for donald and try to show their patriotism by standing to the anthem, but spew hate against everyone who doesn't look like them, it doesn't show any respect or reflect any good that has been done.

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Two words for white Americans who have never learned to feel the centuries-old pain of their black compatriots:

JAMES

BALDWIN

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Americans hating on America is just exactly the kind of "message" the Chicoms like to see.

They're happy when Americans do their dirty work and so many of you are doing that work.

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This was edgy 3 or 4 years ago, now it's just an attention-seeking tantrum from a grown-up baby.

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Americans hating on America is just exactly the kind of "message" the Chicoms like to see.

Talking about wrongs, freely, is fundamental to democracy .

If anything the CCP bots will be worried by this, they are trying to prevent the same in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet.....

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Standing for the national anthem acknowledges all the good that the USA has done and has come to represent over the years, It serves to respect those who had a hand in building this great nation, whereas taking a knee (or the equivalent) draws attention to only the wrongs, short-comings, perceived injustices and is figuratively speaking, like spitting in the face of those who sacrificed themselves for the country. It is an insult.

Couldn't have said it better. Spot on.

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In some countries, it's the law to have to stand for their national anthem but is not in America.

With Gwen Berry, it's not about what America did for her. It's about how she and many other black sportspeople had to fight hard to win their positions.

America didn't give to her on a plate.

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Two words for white Americans who have never learned to feel the centuries-old pain of their black compatriots:

Plenty of words for black and white Americans.

Have you never learned about:

Ukraine/Russian/Holodomor, Armenian genocide, Palestinian/Israeli conflict, China/Uyghurs, China/Hong Kong, Native American/USA/Canada, oh heck the list goes on and on and on.

Wake up, do all Americans think they are the only place in the world that has past problems, injustices, conflicts not fully resolved.

If you are fine with this one then you had better be fine with them all and when Arabs start making protest signs or action over the Palestinians issues keep that in mind and tell people to be quiet and accept it in the same way, the same will need to apply when ethnic Armenians from America, Canada, France, etc .do the same over their issues, would you like a longer list?

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Who really cares, other than those media-obsessed individuals taken in by the inconsequential and symbolic actions of celebrities?

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u_s__reamer

I would never stand for our British anthem. I don't respect or even agree with the wording. One time in the film cinemas they played the national anthem at the end of the show but most just ignored it and piled out.

> Spoken like a true patriot and proud Liverpudlian, Zichi! "You'll never walk alone", Sir!

We have a saying, stand for the anthem and then pay for the "round" when you catch the rest of us up!

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With Gwen Berry, it's not about what America did for her. It's about how she and many other black sportspeople had to fight hard to win their positions.

Good, hold a speech conference get backed by your sponsors and make sure your broadcasted online, TV and heard on the radio. I pay money to watch you perform. I don’t care about your politics when I’m watching sports, that’s not what I paid for an came to see.

America didn't give to her on a plate.

There’s always a appropriate time and place for everything, upstaging any sport for political reasons is the worst platform to use.

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America the land of the free. But by some posters on here, it should be more like NK.

You have no thought, unless it agrees with mine. You cannot act unless it's to be like everyone else. Boy oh boy, perhaps she should have taken that hammer and swung it at Capitol Hill like those 'freedom fighters' who showed such great respect for their country (sarcasm)

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bass4funk

So you deny the free speech of athletes and sportspeople?

You made my point.

When was the last time you attended an athletic meeting in America? Pay good money to watch?

Protests against racism are not politics, it's humanity.

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Droll QuarryJune 27  11:10 am JST

Another example of how the Olympics are not about the sport. The Olympics now embody the spirit of Money, Corruption, and Politics.

And ego. After last year's crap I can't say I really blame her. There's enough Trump Cultists around who think she doesn't even have a right to exist.

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Who really cares, other than those media-obsessed individuals taken in by the inconsequential and symbolic actions of celebrities?

The ones taking time to comment on it!!!

There’s always a appropriate time and place for everything, upstaging any sport for political reasons is the worst platform to use.

I’m glad Abe Lincoln didn’t wait for the appropriate time to abolish slavery, or that Rosa Parks didn’t ask the others on the bus whether they were inconvenienced by her not giving up her seat, or that MLK Jr didn’t wait for the racist leaders to be comfortable before he fought for the rights of the blacks.

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So you deny the free speech of athletes and sportspeople?

I never said that, but I don’t want the athletes to deny my right to watch sports in peace without hearing about politics. You want to insist and push me to hear your plight, I don’t want to and millions of others that want to just escape and watch sports.

You made my point.

As you did mine.

When was the last time you attended an athletic meeting in America? Pay good money to watch?

Before the Pandemic

Protests against racism are not politics, it's humanity.

No, it’s about politics, because you’re pushing for some social reform

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Zichi; it is more like this; on your own time, feel free to protest, virtue signal, whatever you want. When you are at work, on the boss' dime, you shut up. Same as soccer players and their ridiculous 'taking a knee' pander. Do it when you are off the clock. Knock yourself out on social media on your own time.

This lady can protest all she wants after work, not while working.

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All I keep seeing is people going on and on about what is basically only one thing BLM,

But none has any tangible comment or solution for what it will become if the BLM is permitted to do as many here think they should be.

Come on tell us how you who support this being permitted will go about stopping others with their own causes from doing the same?

Please tell how it will be stopped or if they should be stopped and if so why stop the others but not BLM?

These are simple questions, if BLM had the "right" then so should Muslims regarding the Uyghurs, so should the Ukrainians regarding Russia, so should the Armenian regarding Turkey, etc...

You are all so USA and Western centric you either don't know about the world or you dismiss these other issues because they don't directly concern you or your country/history.

Basically a myopic view of a far far far bigger picture.

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Zichi; it is more like this; on your own time, feel free to protest, virtue signal, whatever you want. When you are at work, on the boss' dime, you shut up. Same as soccer players and their ridiculous 'taking a knee' pander. Do it when you are off the clock. Knock yourself out on social media on your own time. 

This lady can protest all she wants after work, not while working.

Exactly, we shouldn’t impede to protest then we can equally say, don’t impede or deprive me from watching sports.

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This lady can protest all she wants after work, not while working.

Someone can say post comments on discussion forums all you want, not while you are working.

She didn't break any rules, she is allowed to protest.

Those who do not like it are free not to watch!!!

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She didn't break any rules, she is allowed to protest.

She can and judging by the latest ratings they don’t look good for her. She can protest and we can change the channel, we will always have the last day what we want to listen to.

Those who do not like it are free not to watch!!!

I totally agree.

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She can and judging by the latest ratings they don’t look good for her. 

Sports are not judged by ratings, they are judged by your performance.

Berry earned her spot, and her platform, at the Olympics, grabbing the third spot by a scant 2 inches over Janee Kassanavoid

And she has grabbed a shot at the Olympics, so probably couldn't care less about how many people watch tv.

She can protest and we can change the channel,

That's what I suggest, am sure Berry wouldn't be too hurt if you dont watch her.

we will always have the last day what we want to listen to.

???

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Tell us which you will be Ok

Peaceful protest which does not break the laws is ok.

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Sports are not judged by ratings, they are judged by your performance.

All the more reason why people are tuning off her performance poisoned it.

And she has grabbed a shot at the Olympics, so probably couldn't care less about how many people watch tv.

We know, all the more reason to blow off the games

That's what I suggest, am sure Berry wouldn't be too hurt if you dont watch her.

That goes both ways.

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I guess how much the US has done for one depends strongly upon their race. In the US whites go out of their way every day of the week to treat Black Americans as lesser beings that white Americans. Don't tell me it doesn't happen because I see it every single day. Because I am white older whites tell me exactly what they think. I know how my family views Black Americans and what they call them in private. I have seen cousins use their pick up to run Black drivers off the road, just for fun. A high school buddy saw a Black kids with a nice bicycle on a street near our high school and said "nice bike, where'd you steal it?". It is the daily drumbeat of insults, denied opportunities, violence, cops seeing them as suspicious and pulling them over to search their car and frisk only because they were Black. It is the totality of it every day by so many people that for Blacks in the US, the US isn't always such a great place to them. Look at all the posts above to see the seething racism of many who post here

We seem to come from a similar background, Desert Tortise...

note, none of the normal blowhards seem to be responding...

Until January 6th, i thought the structural racism argument was patent BS

every time I see someone argue that Ashley Babitt was “murdered in cold blood by cop” I’m reminded of how real it is. If it had been BLM/Black Panthers and Cori Bush coming through that window, every damned one of you “patriots” would say she got what was coming to her.

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All the more reason why people are tuning off her performance poisoned it.

English please!!!

We know, all the more reason to blow off the games

As I said before, this is not N.Korea, you cannot be forced to watch something against your will.

That goes both ways.

I think the chances of Berry watching you throw a hammer on TV are wafer thin!!!!

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English please!!!

No one cares about her politics.

As I said before, this is not N.Korea, you cannot be forced to watch something against your will.

Great, more power to turn the channel, she doesn’t care, we don’t, there’s always Netflix.

I think the chances of Berry watching

she won’t be, neither will I.

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the IOC has said it will enforce its Rule 50 that bans demonstrations inside the lines.

Seems to me standing starry-eyed with hand on heart worshipping a piece of cloth while some music plays is also a kind of demonstration.

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Seems to me standing starry-eyed with hand on heart worshipping a piece of cloth while some music plays is also a kind of demonstration.

No, it’s very different, showing love and allegiance and being patriotic has nothing to do with being ungrateful, filled with hate and wanting to put down you’re country, the majority of Americans are not interested in this woman’s war (whatever that is) against her country. Then if she hates it, leave, go somewhere where she can be proud. Love my country, culture and flag and would take one for it. She doesn’t like it fine, but she’s getting more attention for the wrong reasons.

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