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S Korea removes banners at Olympic village after IOC ruling

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Continue to show the world your childish antics and pettiness.

Hopefully since the Japanese Rising Sun flag (which South Korea never cared about decades ago) is also banned, these South Korean athletes will act like adults from this point forward.

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Oh for gods sake grow up, the war was 500 years ago, talk about holding a grudge, if you hate Japan that much why did you bother to send your so called atherleats, sorry protesters.

18 ( +44 / -26 )

The committee said it agreed to remove the banners after the IOC promised to also apply the same rules to the rising sun flags and ban them at all Olympic venues.

the raising sun was displayed precisely nowhere. The Koreans exchanged something for nothing

23 ( +39 / -16 )

They should be free of expressing their views and opinions to the world.

Censoring them is just making their word spread faster.

Believe me, after reading this article, people all over the world will hang similar banners in their balconies.

-36 ( +11 / -47 )

Competitive sports bring out the worst in us. Mark my words. From the school play grounds to the stadia of the elite, the world of sport has dejected countless generations.

24 ( +31 / -7 )

After the Great East Japan Earthquake, other Koreans hanged a banner celebrating the earthquake at an AFC Champions game. I guess the Koreans never change.

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@GdTokyo

the raising sun was displayed precisely nowhere. The Koreans exchanged something for nothing

Actually this IOC decision bans the display of the Rising Sun Flags at all Olympic venues, including by private individuals, from now and onward.

Not just the Tokyo Olympics, but Beijing Winter Olympics(Not that Japanese rightwingers are brave enough to try waiving the Rising Sun Flag in Beijing), Paris Olympics, LA Olympics, etc.

This is the very outcome that Japanese foreign ministry tried to avoid for ages, but it happened in none other than Tokyo.

@Falco

Koreans hanged a banner celebrating the earthquake at an AFC Champions game. I guess the Koreans never change.

I don't know about earthquake banner, but the Rising Sun Flag is also banned at AFC hosted matches since 2017. IOC is now the second international sporting body to have banned the Rising Sun Flag, FIFA is the last hold out.

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Celebrating a war from 500 years ago is seriously stupid. And the Japanese Naval Ensign is not a political flag, as much as SK tries to make it. The US Navy has no problem training with JMSDF vessels flying this flag. At least Japan's flags are Japanese, unlike South Korea's that was created by the Chinese.

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@OssanJapan

Celebrating a war from 500 years ago is seriously stupid. 

Koreans are not trying to celebrate the war of aggression and genocide, unlike Japanese rightwingers celebrating Imperial Japan's war of aggression and genocide symbolized by the Rising Sun Flag.

 And the Japanese Naval Ensign is not a political flag

The IOC ruled otherwise. Actually the Rising Sun Flag is even worse, it's basically a war-criminal flag(戦犯旗), in the same category as the Nazi Swastika and the Confederate flag.

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FalcoToday 06:55 am JST

After the Great East Japan Earthquake, other Koreans hanged a banner celebrating the earthquake at an AFC Champions game. I guess the Koreans never change.

I think you just unintentionally revealed your nationality by using the Japanese literal translation of " the Great East Japan Earthquake' (It's the '2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami' in English).

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Send them home.

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If the Koreans are not happy, go back to their country! Stop with this childish behavior!

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So is it not ok to quote any famous generals? What about Sun Tzu? (“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.")

I think the banners displayed by the Korean team were intended to get under the Japanese players' skins. And I think it worked.

-3 ( +12 / -15 )

Knowing and preserving history help us NOT to repeat our mistakes.

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Apparently the Korean team also has stopped eating the food in the Olympic Village due to “Fukushima Radiation fears”

Essentially they are suggesting that we are poisoning them deliberately.

You know, most younger Japanese these days actually have little personal problems with Korea.

But Koreans seem to have been raised with anger and regret and self victimization.

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What a legacy of how the Tokyo Olympic ‘Spectacle’ will be remembered: Protests, censorship, old wars & grudges, lewd remarked by diplomats, racism, etc

Just more for the Commemorative Book that will go on sale later. - Save the money! (Hope Everyone feels free to ‘copy & paste’ these many references, and often, as the childish ‘Games’ of some athletes, and their hosts, regress into further chaos.)
-3 ( +4 / -7 )

Comedy gold. JOC/IOC bend to threats from uyoku scum, what kind of surprise is that? There's so much wrongness in this article one feels dizzy reading it.

It's interesting that the 'keep politics out of sport' brigade are curiously absent from this thread, just as they were silent on the Bach/Coates visits to Hiroshima and Nagasaki last week. What could possibly be the reason for that?

Still, one is sure they'll be supporting the Chinese government in its upcoming campaign to keep politics out of Beijing 2022.

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Believe me, after reading this article, people all over the world will hang similar banners in their balconies.

And… nobody cared.

Actually the Rising Sun Flag is even worse, it's basically a war-criminal flag

The americans don’t think so.

try harder ; )

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No political protests were clearly the rule, you break the rules, go home.

this will certainly lead to more protests.

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Given every male Korean citizen must go through the Korean military, where they learn and are reminded to regard Japan as hostile partner nation, it is not surprising they (the Korean Delegation) would make things political early.

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@thepersoniamnow

Apparently the Korean team also has stopped eating the food in the Olympic Village due to “Fukushima Radiation fears”

Actually this was planned all along.

Essentially they are suggesting that we are poisoning them deliberately.

Koreans strongly distrust Japanese "radiation" detection testing methodology, because they keep finding radioactive fish export from Japan that's not even supposed to be from Fukushima and its surrounding regions(They are banned), so how are they supposed to trust food from Fukushima that JOC proudly serve at the Olympic Village?

So Korean athletes are urged to skip breakfast and wait for the lunch/dinner box delivered by the Korean government to them twice a day outside of the Olympic Village, because JOC forbade the Korean government from making lunch box delivery to the Olympic village because that would negatively affect non-Korean athlete's confidence in food they are served.

@Alfie Noakes

JOC/IOC bend to threats from uyoku scum

At least the IOC banned the Rising Sun Flag from Olympic venues, which was unexpected.

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I served under the Kyokujitsu-ki and how long will it be before those comfort statues are brought to the Olympics? I really want Nippon not to support the Southern Koreans in their civil war against the Northern Koreans. Oh Japan needs to boycott all Korean products!

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While I think the Korean banners are clearly poor taste & not appropriate, the Japanese flag in question is VERY MUCH a symbol of war & destruction!

Koreans are not trying to celebrate the war of aggression and genocide, unlike Japanese rightwingers celebrating Imperial Japan's war of aggression and genocide symbolized by the Rising Sun Flag.

While most yanks may not care about the rising sun flag(mostly because they are ignorant of its history) just ask SE Asians who KNEW when that flag was on its way to their lands that plenty of death & destruction was coming for civilians, to the tune of 20-30million dead.

So its good the rising sun flag is now a no go for these cursed games

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there "may be many ways of thinking" over the issue.

Watch Age of the Samurai. The invasion of Korea in the late 16th century was an unmitigated and unprovoked massacre. Do those "many ways of thinking" include the opinion that it never happened?

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@YuriOtani

I really want Nippon not to support the Southern Koreans in their civil war against the Northern Koreans.

Koreans really really don't want any Japanese help. To the contrary, Korean military will turn around and open fire in the direction the JSDF is arriving from even in the middle of war.

Japanese "help" is neither asked for or is needed.

This is why the Korean government already told JSDF is not welcome to send its military cargo planes and warships to extract Japanese civilians out, Japan can send JAL/ANA airliners and civilian ferry ships, but absolutely no JASDF/JMSDF ships and planes.

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I think you just unintentionally revealed your nationality by using the Japanese literal translation of " the Great East Japan Earthquake' (It's the '2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami' in English).

Too bad, I was born and raised an American. Good job trying to profile a stranger on the internet.

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Go in and give everybody in their team a proper pcr test instead of the sham self saliva tests, that will never find any cases, and there are sure to be few positives that they can eliminate from the games in retribution, if not the whole team

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@Samit Basu what about the American bases in Japan. If the Americans use them to support the southern rebels, it will open Japan to attack from the North. Why should Japan allow this to happen?

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Samit BasuToday 08:32 am JST

@Alfie Noakes

JOC/IOC bend to threats from uyoku scum

At least the IOC banned the Rising Sun Flag from Olympic venues, which was unexpected.

At least there are some people at the IOC serious about keeping politics out of sport ;--)

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Why are the Japanese whining? Didn't they say only the Koreans whine? Hypocrisy at its finest.

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Surely when the host country proudly holds the Olympic Games, her citizens fly their countries national flag, not a Naval Ensign.

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@YuriOtani

it will open Japan to attack from the North. Why should Japan allow this to happen?

Japan cannot stop the US from carrying out transport missions from its Japanese bases, only combat missions which Japan has not yet consented to, but this isn't asked or needed unlike the Japanese consent to US military intervention of Taiwan from Okinawan bases.

The ROK of 2021 is a massive military superpower and any conflict with North Korea is expected to wrap up in 2 weeks, US combat sorties from USFJ bases unnecessary.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/japan-for-first-time-mentions-taiwan-stability-in-defense-paper

Japan for First Time Mentions Taiwan Stability in Defense Paper

Separately, Japan’s white paper also included a column on the sharp increase in South Korea’s defense spending. On current trends, South Korea’s defense budget will be 1.5 times that of Japan by 2025, the ministry said. The policy comes against the background of President Moon Jae-in’s desire to take back wartime operational control of the military from the U.S., according to the report.

While South Korea has spent heavily for decades to defend its side of the heavily militarized border with North Korea, Moon has embarked on one of the country’s biggest weapons build-ups in years, seeking to add an aircraft carrier and nuclear-powered submarine to project its power at a greater distance from its shores.

Remember, 1.5 times Japan's defense budget is Japanese MoD's own projection, not some 3rd party projection.

There is a reason why Korea is building thousands of ballistic missiles, a nation-wide triple layer defense, home-made stealth fighters and nuclear submarines, and aircraft carriers while Japan can't, Korea now has a lot more money to spend on defense than Japan does.

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Surely when the host country proudly holds the Olympic Games, her citizens fly their countries national flag, not a Naval Ensign.

Since when has the Japanese Navy flag been illegal? It is an official flag, and therefore should be permitted to fly anywhere - including this crappy superspreading "village".

A lot of Japanese fly the Rising Sun flag as they are proud of their Navy. Nothing wrong with that.

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Perhaps the second last paragraph should read:

Most South Koreans are taught to harbor animosity over Japan's 1910-1945 colonial rule of the Korean Peninsula,......................

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@Samit Basu, why do you assume Japan would want to help South Korea in their civil War? History has taught Japan to stay out of other peoples conflicts. The civil war in Korea is not Japans fight. As for 2 weeks to beat the North, I wonder? No once any conflict starts in Korea, Japan should stop all movement to Korea when possible. Have our aircraft and ships come home assuming DEFCON 2 and prepare to defend Japan against all foes. Japan already has carriers, for the South it is a pipe dream.

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At least the IOC banned the Rising Sun Flag from Olympic venues, which was unexpected.

According to South Korea... Either way it is the SDF flag and would make no sense at the Olympics.

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"Oh for gods sake grow up, the war was 500 years ago" Tell it to the orangemen of the British enclave of Northern Ireland, who celebrate an event that's far older than their country is.

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@Fighto!

therefore should be permitted to fly anywhere

Let's forget about the dark history behind the Rising Sun Flag, under which countless war crimes and atrocities were committed, for the sake of a debate.

Why does a military flag belong in the Olympics in the first place? You yourself admit it's a military flag.

A lot of Japanese fly the Rising Sun flag as they are proud of their Navy. Nothing wrong with that.

Surely everything wrong with that.

1) The Rising Sun Flag is a military flag.

2) Japanese really really needs a good history education behind the Rising Sun Flag. Once learned of the truth, most reasonable Japanese would be ashamed of holding it in their hands.

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Left Right or Center: there is one shared tenant in South Korean politics - when in trouble, blame the Japanese.

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Surely when the host country proudly holds the Olympic Games, her citizens fly their countries national flag, not a Naval Ensign.

Since when has the Japanese Navy flag been illegal? It is an official flag, and therefore should be permitted to fly anywhere - including this crappy superspreading "village".

A lot of Japanese fly the Rising Sun flag as they are proud of their Navy. Nothing wrong with that.

The Japanese Naval flag is not illegal and is official. Customarily it is flown at the rear of Naval ship thus identifying the origin of the ship when not in home port.

I would agree that "this village" is superspreading and crappy, but it is not a ship.

Many Japanese are quite rightly proud of their MSDF and there is nothing wrong with that. (Maybe they should apply). I am sure that at the opening ceremony of the Olympics the MSDF will have a role and display their Ensign. This is only one part of Japan, to be all inclusive of Japan as a nation, it is customary for the host nation to be represented under the National Flag.

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If South Koreans feel so strong about the Japanese why didn't they just boycott the games?

Their fear of being fed radiated food is unfounded. Radiated foods are not export to South Korea or any other country. Both Singapore and Taiwan are buying Japanese foods.

When it comes to flags there can be none more so than the British Union Jack, the flag of the British Empire which ruled the world.

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@YuriOtani

why do you assume Japan would want to help South Korea in their civil War?

That's your word, not mine.

I really want Nippon not to support the Southern Koreans in their civil war against the Northern Koreans.

.

Japan already has carriers, for the South it is a pipe dream.

The ones planned by Korea is literally twice the size of Japan's, literally 90% of the size of Queen Elizabeth class carriers. They are so large it shocked analysts who didn't expect to see such ship design.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41014/south-korea-is-looking-at-building-a-war-bigger-carrier-than-we-thought

South Korea Is Looking At Building A Way Bigger Carrier Than We Thought

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

I like South Korea but that is pretty low class.

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I wonder if the Asahi Shimbun triggers them.

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@Alan Harrison

I am sure that at the opening ceremony of the Olympics the MSDF will have a role and display their Ensign. 

Sorry, the Rising Sun Flag in all form is now banned at the Olympics.

@zichi

If South Koreans feel so strong about the Japanese why didn't they just boycott the games?

1) For the pleasure of Korean athletes defeating Japanese athletes.

2) An Olympic medal is worth a lot more to a Korean athlete than to a Japanese athlete, because military conscription waiver is tied to winning an Olympic medal. A boycott means stripping those athletes of a chance to win conscription waiver.

Their fear of being fed radiated food is unfounded. Radiated foods are not export to South Korea or any other country.

Yet Korea still manages to find Japanese radioactive food export not from Fukushima and surrounding area. So if non-Fukushima food is radioactive, what about Fukushima area food? 

Both Singapore and Taiwan are buying Japanese foods.

So this simply means Korean food safety standard is way higher than Singapore and Taiwan.

When it comes to flags there can be none more so than the British Union Jack, the flag of the British Empire which ruled the world.

The British didn't harm Korea; Japan did.

This is the same reason why Europeans are less sensitive to the Rising Sun Flag, while Asians are less sensitive to Nazi Swastika.

Both are horrible flags from past that must forever be banned as symbols of genocide and hatred.

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Samit Basu

I believe that in Korea they would find Toyotas and Hondas to be radioactive as well.

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Interesting the first test of the no politics not political demonstrations policy and basically the IOC failed.

The south Korean team shows up with a professionally made banner and some flimsy junk about bthe rising Sun flag and the IOC caves in.

They should have sent the team packing as an example to the rest, that will now view this weak reaction as what bto expect and that they can get away with.

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If some of the posters think that all the hatred from the Koreans comes because just a 500 years old war you’re either very ignorant which is unlikely or just hypocrite.

We know that they have such attitude because a long series of events between these two countries and every time historically started from the invasion from one of the two sides,plus the denying of the truth.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

So now what?

What if the Armenian team now put out a Banner over the Genocide by the Turks?

What will the IOC do then if the Armenians demand that the Turkish flag be banned?

And the list is long if we think about all the others that have problems with historical conflicts and oppression.

Former colonial territories of European countries now independent countries that still view the flags of their former rulers as a sign of past oppressed, The Union Jack, the Tricolore, The flag of Belgium, etc...

The IOC may have just opened a very big can of worms,

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Brian WhewayToday  06:24 am JST

Oh for gods sake grow up, the war was 500 years ago, talk about holding a grudge, if you hate Japan that much why did you bother to send your so called atherleats, sorry protesters.

It was 500 years ago, all participants are dead. Let it be.

AntiquesavingToday  11:19 am JST

So now what?

What if the Armenian team now put out a Banner over the Genocide by the Turks?

What will the IOC do then if the Armenians demand that the Turkish flag be banned?

And the list is long if we think about all the others that have problems with historical conflicts and oppression.

The Armenian Genocide occured under the Ottoman Turk flag.

These grudges are immature. After Communism collapsed in Yugoslavia, Slobodan Milosevic was wailing and moaning about how Serbs were defeated by Ottoman Turks way back in the 12th century, and he used that as an excuse to stoke and stir up ethnic hatred. That soon led to genocide against Muslims, particularly in Bosnia. Because of that fascist scumbag and his locquacious loud mouth, Yugoslavia is gone. Broken up.

Some people hold on to their foolish nationist chauvanist pride too much, they never grow up.

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I have a feeling this story is not over yet. What will the South Korean team do net? I suspect it will have something to do with a shrine or comfort women. Will they carry a copy of the comfort woman into the games?

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@Samit Basu

This may be unrelated, but can you tell me what are the strategic reasons for Korea wanting their own aircraft carriers? Doesn't make sense to me.

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@starpunk

Seems one, you missed the point.

Correct people as you put it.

Some people hold on to their foolish nationist chauvanist pride too much, they never grow up.

But that does not change the fact that by giving into South Korea, the IOC has now set the precedent and opened the door to other to do the same.

Just take The Democratic Republic of the Congo (Formerly known as Belgian Congo) same flag today as back then and what the Belgians did there was beyond comprehension.

So under the present deal made with South Korea the Democratic Republic of the Congo would well be in its right to demand the flag of Belgium not be used.

Again just one example of where this can and will lead.

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Yawn. Both sides need to shut it and get over it. It’s all in the past, who cares?

There’s way more important things to focus on, in the present.

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

That rising sun flag is horrible, but I don't understand the pride in it. It's not as if the Japanese navy has ever achieved anything.

As for the Korean banners, what's all the fuss about. They have a point.

If Japan are that bothered, just ignore them.

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It has been mentioned before but South Korea's objection to the Rising Sun flag is a relatively recent phenomenon. Japan had flown that Rising Sun flag decades before including during a naval review and South Korea had no problems with it then.

And equating the Rising Sun flag to the German nazi flag, and as a symbol of 'genocide' against Koreans, as someone already pointed out, is the height of ignorance. The two have zero moral or historical equivalence. The Rising Sun emblem has been used as a flag in Japan since ancient times, and the current design was in fact as the Japanese war flag in 1870, long before Japan annexed Korea in 1910. The Nazi Germany flag was by comparison specifically adopted in 1935 to represent the Third Reich and its horrors.

I wondered when the South Koreans would raise a stink about the Rising Sun flag since I hadn't heard a peep in months. Now they pulled this stunt and unfortunately the IOC cowered to these crazies, and so the Korean athletes once again had to act like immature schoolyard bullies to get what they want. Pathetic.

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That rising sun flag is horrible, but I don't understand the pride in it. It's not as if the Japanese navy has ever achieved anything.

As for the Korean banners, what's all the fuss about. They have a point.

If Japan are that bothered, just ignore them.

Ok lest make a list:

USA stars and stripes: Vietnam, North Korea, Philippines, etc...

The Union Jack: multiple African, Caribbean, etc... Countries.

The French Tricolore: multiple African countries especially in North Africa, etc...

The Flag of Belgium: Democratic Republic of Congo.

Turkey: multiple groups have a problem with them but Cyprus could easily object to their present day flag.

Tell us the rising sun is any worse to Koreans than the flag of Belgium is to the people of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

If you are not familiar with what mean look it up but I hope you have a strong stomach.

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I have a feeling this story is not over yet. What will the South Korean team do net? I suspect it will have something to do with a shrine or comfort women. Will they carry a copy of the comfort woman into the games?

Excellent thought to bring up. I seriously would not put it past the South Korean team to pull a stupid stunt like that during the opening ceremonies as well as during the various competitions. My guess is that the athletes will wear some symbol on their suit to commemorate the comfort women or something similar.

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Now that South Korea has been rewarded for doing this, we can expect they will pull a few more stunts.

Remember when you reward someone for bad behaviour it only encourages them to do it again.

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South Korea should really consider to renew it's national flag by inserting the face of comfort women statue

into the center and proudly waive their national flags at Olympics or anywhere else. Problem all solved!

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> FalcoToday  08:32 am JST

I think you just unintentionally revealed your nationality by using the Japanese literal translation of " the Great East Japan Earthquake' (It's the '2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami' in English).

Too bad, I was born and raised an American. Good job trying to profile a stranger on the internet

As I expected, Americans are often not good at using the correct terms for anything outside their own God=s won. ;)

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

hese South Korean athletes will act like adults from this point forward.

Hahah, that's a good one. They'll probably put their fingers in their ears or give the finger when a Japanese athlete wins and the Kimagayo is played.

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South Korea's Olympic committee said Saturday it removed banners at the Olympic athletes' village in Tokyo that referred to a 16th-century war between Korea and Japan after the International Olympic Committee ruled they were provocative.

Are the South Korean team attending these game, in a throws of a pandemic, nothing more than political canon fodder, for the Government of South Korea to manipulate at will?

Symbols, flags and fools, they all go hand in hand.

Join in, in good faith, or book the next flight out.

Your are not welcome.

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South Korea tends to get this way when the World focuses on Japan in some way.

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The perpetual back and fourth display that these countries will never be allies or friends. Such a shame and a waste because they have more in common than not. If it could between a humor filled rivalry like say France and England that would be the way forward, but the culture on both sides prevents that from happening. Collectivism.

And btw, Korean Olympic team members, bringing the antagonism to the games ain’t a particularly good look, even though you may think otherwise. Not classy or smart, in fact quite the opposite.

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An Olympic medal is worth a lot more to a Korean athlete than to a Japanese athlete, because military conscription waiver is tied to winning an Olympic medal.

Are you saying Korean athletes are motivated by cowardice?

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Samit

Koreans really really don't want any Japanese help. 

Is that why Korea started the whole boycott against everything Japan in 2019 for being taken out of Japan's white list of trusted partners?

You may say Koreans don't want any help from Japan. But as seen from all that baby crying on that year, Koreans may not want Japan's help but needs it.

The Korean team bringing should have just stayed home if they were gonna bring all this hate and politics with them. Just as muricans can't bring their hate infused BLM banners, so everyone else should leave their politics at home.

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I am coming from the region where there are still some grudges from centuries ago between neighboring countries. I can say that in those cases usually backwards people and nationalists are the ones who are keeping those grudges alive. However, those grudges are nothing compared what Korean people are doing. They will use every single small opportunity to talk s**t against Japan. I know that Japan has done some things in the history that are not acceptable by any standards, but it is time to move on and look forward. This whole childish Korean grudge towards Japan is complete insanity even for me who is accustomed in constant grudges between nations.

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Go in and give everybody in their team a proper pcr test instead of the sham self saliva tests, that will never find any cases, and there are sure to be few positives that they can eliminate from the games in retribution, if not the whole team

Japan needs to give Korean athletes the Chinese-style covid anal swab test.

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The rationalization of this nonsense seemed to be based upon a whole lot of whataboutism.

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It has been mentioned before but South Korea's objection to the Rising Sun flag is a relatively recent phenomenon. Japan had flown that Rising Sun flag decades before including during a naval review and South Korea had no problems with it then.

I think this is in part due to the age of the internet and later generations (millennials and zoomers) being more sensitive than previous ones (gen X and boomers).

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During the Winter 2018 Olympics, a South Korean athlete after beating Japan held a banner saying "The Island's belong to Korea" , the athlete was banned from getting on the podium to receive his medal, he eventually did months later. Here's the deal South Korean athletes if they win are except from mandatory military service, if he felt so strongly about it, he would of joined up into the Military, he didn't and took the exemption.

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I wonder when South Korea will stop playing the victim card.

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Be fair and ban ALL flags and uniforms. And stop playing national anthems at medals ceremonies, as all these are symbols of divisive nationalism.

All athletes should compete under the banner of the United Nations and wear a drab, single color uniform.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

The rising sun banned in its own country Japan? The Koreans won this round.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

The rising sun banned in its own country Japan? The Koreans won this round.

The rising sun flag has been proudly worn by British rock bands for decades and is a staple of pop culture and global design. The Koreans lost this war.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

The rising sun banned in its own country Japan? The Koreans won this round.

Most competitions have no spectators anyway

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

There is a reason why Korea is building thousands of ballistic missiles, a nation-wide triple layer defense, home-made stealth fighters and nuclear submarines, and aircraft carriers while Japan can't, Korea now has a lot more money to spend on defense than Japan does.

The "reason" why "Japan can't" is because of "article 9".

I mentioned in another news that Japan's military is nowhere near SK, but some users here still think Japan have the better military somehow. All these years, SK keep modernize and advancing their military while Japan bind themselves with their own constitution.

The rising sun banned in its own country Japan? The Koreans won this round.

Only in Olympic stadiums and venues during any Olympic from now on, but yes, a huge win. And I believe SK won't stop right there.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

They just can't let it go.

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The action of the SKs doesn't merit any support, this playing the victim drama can't go on forever. Is it borne from a feeling of being internationally not recognized or what. If I am not mistaken a soccer player did something like that in the London olympics soccer match.

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United by emotion.

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Sorry no violins deserved for Korean victimhood five centuries ago. World history is like that. In fact, for most countries it was worse If they don't like it - the drama queens can go home. I'm not aware they could win anything, anyway.

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@YuriOtani History has taught Japan to stay out of other peoples conflicts. The civil war in Korea is not Japans fight.

Tell that to PM Suga for urging US involvement in China/Taiwan conflict

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....Koreans seem to have been raised with anger and regret and self victimization.

Having been bossed around for centuries by powerful neighbors Japan and China would naturally bring create anger issues and a victimization complex.

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It is a good decision to ban the war-criminal flag worshiped by those who rever mass-murder, torture, rapes, mass-rapes, genocide and use of poison gas and other vile WMDs (unit 731). Those are not suitable for the olympics, no matter how much japanese right-wingers love symbols that represent these crimes.

Olympics is not the time to celebrate war and crimes against humanity. Right decision from the IOC.

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Isn't this " Team Korea" banner offending North Korea?

South Korea should have boycotted this Olympics as it has loudly been declaring to do so . It always brings about issues , not to mention it is so infamous about their rough anti-sportsmanship playing anytime, anywhere. It is time for the world to completely ignore this Team Korea

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More childish antics from Korea.... I am not surprised.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Anti-sportmanship banners at the Olympic athletes' village.

Why drag up old history Korea ?

Yes, never forget about horrors that have happened, but stop twisting the generations that follow to hate.

The world has a real problem that is spreading and we need to unite against it.

Like the recent positive tests in the olympic village.

i say about that [start]

Quarantine the entire olympic village for the 10 days as required.

No one in or out.

Every 3 days test all.

If more test positive, then reset the 10 day count down and testing time.

Do not allow it to spread from there.

All olympic related people should have had the 10 day quarantine when they arrived.

Now they may have bought the more deadly version into Japan.

[end]

And also why has the Korean government not handed out all of the money it received from Japan to all those who suffered ?

Where is the complaints from the Koreans about that ?

I am not saying forget about history, but lets NOT continue the hatred for generations and divide the world.

There is more than enough new problems to deal with.

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Can you imagine the outrage and violent furor if the Japanese Olympic team or any of its members pulled a similar stunt in South Korea? That the South Korean team, a visiting guest, would pull such a pathetic stunt in Japan, shows you the nature of these types of people. Such pettiness and immaturity for the whole world to see. And the sad thing is, the world continues to enable these deranged lunatics to perpetuate their anti-Japanese hostility and propaganda. You see it with the comfort women memorials across America and the world. None of this has anything to do with remembering the past or honoring the victims, it has everything to do with swaying world opinion against Japan and spiting it. Pathetic.

By the way, whatever happened to the "keep politics out of sports" crowd here, the ones that so eagerly make their presence known here whenever it involves sports, politics, and a non-Japanese nation?

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Korea, still whining? GET OVER IT!

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So for all those supporting South Korea.

Would you also Bevin support if Ireland did the same demanded that the Union Jack be banned?

Lest face it Ireland got it far worse and for far longer than Korea but I don't hear the constant droning on from the Irish as we hear from the Koreans!

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They will use every single small opportunity to talk s**t against Japan. I know that Japan has done some things in the history that are not acceptable by any standards, but it is time to move on and look forward. This whole childish Korean grudge towards Japan is complete insanity even for me who is accustomed in constant grudges between nations.

Some boorish sassybrats in America still whine about when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in WW2 and they use that as an excuse to hate Japanese or even all Oriental Asians for that matter. That rotten incident was last century. The fascist regime is gone. Most of my fellow veterans don't feel that way, not even the WW2 survivors but some people never grow up.

And when it comes to Olympics Games like this, there's no room for this jingoistic crap. Take your banners down and go home and sulk if you don't like it because this ain't the place for it and it's not welcome. The ones who put the banners up are acting like chumps, not champs.

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And equating the Rising Sun flag to the German nazi flag, and as a symbol of 'genocide' against Koreans, as someone already pointed out, is the height of ignorance. The two have zero moral or historical equivalence. 

Exactly quite ignorant to say the least. Just a troll.

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Look back at history. When's the first, last, or only preemptive attack Korea launched against Japan seeking a foothold to secure domination of Japanese territory, other than the one idolized in Kamikaze myth? History: never.

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"But Koreans seem to have been raised with anger and regret and self victimization." Really, it's almost as if Monkasho-approvd history texts had never been vetted, approved and published for propagandistic purposes, and used to indoctrinate every child who's attended public school since 1953...

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@ OA

"And the Japanese Naval Ensign is not a political flag, as much as SK tries to make it. The US Navy has no problem training with JMSDF vessels flying this flag. "

Of course! The USA was the victorious invader and atomic bomber of Nippon while Korea was the victim of brutal Japanese colonization!

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I'm sure some of the Team USA members will "take a knee" or do something else to politicize the Games. I hope each and every one of them are disqualified / sent home.

Of course for every country.

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By the way Rising sun flag is not banned, Don't spread misinformation by anti-japanese racist Kbjournalist. Check facts before posting.

Japanese volunteers should hung Rising sun flag in stadium.

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@Kei Kurono

By the way Rising sun flag is not banned

The Rising Sun Flag IS banned by the IOC.

JOC refuses to honor this ban, so VANK has organized the Rising Sun Flag hunters to document evidence of Rising Sun Flag being displayed by Japanese rightwingers and report them to IOC directly to have JOC sanctioned for non-compliance.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e0b4e2e35c99b7588b19c3fa041e4b2e20ecab98

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

All I know is what I read in the JT, and I read this above: "The committee said it agreed to remove the banners after the IOC promised to also apply the same rules to the rising sun flags and ban them at all Olympic venues."

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@jeancolmar

IOC's Rising Sun Flag ban is in a written letter.

Now the feud is between IOC and JOC, which confirmed they "know of some kind of agreement between IOC and Korea" but refuses to acknowledge IOC's ban.

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210719010000315

Korean Olympic chief assures of IOC's written pledge in banner row with Japan

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

South Korean here,

I realize how childish it is for the athletes to do so and I agree with what most of the people are saying. As a Korean my problem with the whole flag thing and the relationship with South Korea and Japan thing is not that it is a war that happened in the past or whatever. The problem for me is that Japan is not sorry for what they’ve done. Sure it sounds dumb but there is so much history that is really bad between them. I can’t express how much stuff my ancestors went through and many other Koreans did. Such as the man made island in Japan where they enslaved Koreans to work for so much hours and girls of age 5+ used as sex slaves. I get that there may have been more worst situations in other countries like the Congo genocide. I think Japan is cool never been there but I think it’s cool. Just that I think there are certain necessities such as being sorry for what their ancestors have done.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

South Korean here,

I realize how childish it is for the athletes to do so and I agree with what most of the people are saying. As a Korean my problem with the whole flag thing and the relationship with South Korea and Japan thing is not that it is a war that happened in the past or whatever. The problem for me is that Japan is not sorry for what they’ve done. Sure it sounds dumb but there is so much history that is really bad between them. I can’t express how much stuff my ancestors went through and many other Koreans did. Such as the man made island in Japan where they enslaved Koreans to work for so much hours and girls of age 5+ used as sex slaves. I get that there may have been more worst situations in other countries like the Congo genocide. I think Japan is cool never been there but I think it’s cool. Just that I think there are certain necessities such as being sorry for what their ancestors have done.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

South Korean here,

I realize how childish it is for the athletes to do so and I agree with what most of the people are saying. As a Korean my problem with the whole flag thing and the relationship with South Korea and Japan thing is not that it is a war that happened in the past or whatever. The problem for me is that Japan is not sorry for what they’ve done. Sure it sounds dumb but there is so much history that is really bad between them. I can’t express how much stuff my ancestors went through and many other Koreans did. I get that there may have been more worst situations in other countries like the Congo genocide. I think Japan is cool never been there but I think it’s cool. Just that I think there are certain necessities such as being sorry for what had happened in the past.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

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