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Why are Man United and Liverpool suddenly on the market?

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If I owned Liverpool or Man U, I'd sell up for the prices quoted. They both have massive brand value, far bigger than other clubs, but I don't see much upside to it. The level of success on the pitch that originally created the brand value is increasingly unlikely. A public that has been docile in the face of other political developments was quick to dismiss the closed-shop European Super League that would lock-in revenues.

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Pound is worth toilet paper now, ESL was blocked, and dealing with primadonna players and coaches isn't as much fun as they thought it would be?

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They don't represent their local community anymore, they're just corporations set up for a profitable spectacle

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Fenway has made a massive profit from Liverpool FC. From about £350 million in 2010 to about £4 billion in 2022. Fenway has always been about money. They want to cast in.

Rumour Apple wants to buy Liverpool but probably just that.

The Glazers who own Man U have never been liked by their fans.

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Wobot

They don't represent their local community anymore, they're just corporations set up for a profitable spectacle

Try explaining that to the Liverpool and Man U fans. Liverpool is Anfield.

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Since Klopp became the manager he has won every domestic and European trophy. The most successful current manager in the league and the longest-serving one.

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With Liverpool, the owners simply want to free up capital so they can buy a US NFL or NHL team.

Klopp has lost his touch. I'd take Guardiola or Tuchel over him---both who have more titles than Klopp.

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Guardiola has not won the European Cup with Man City. The ex-Barcelona boss hasn't lifted the European Cup since 2011. Guardiola is a better manager than Klopp, even Klopp said so. But I doubt Guardiola would leave Man City for Liverpool. I think Guardiola will go back to Spain when he leaves and sooner than later.

Klopp has been the best manager of Liverpool in the modern premier league and a fan favorite.

I guess Americans will never understand our game.

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wallaceToday  03:29 pm JST

I guess Americans will never understand our game.

Other than the fact that most teams are foreign owned . How come the Brits can't run a team in their own country?

https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/football-news/who-are-liverpool-owners-everything-on-fsg-john-henry-premier-league.html

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wallaceToday  03:29 pm JST

I guess Americans will never understand our game.

Whose game?

Two-thirds of Premier League players now foreign

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/premier-league/how-many-foreign-players-can-play-in-a-premier-league-team/ar-AAZzRkH

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The ownership of a club has nothing to do with its history or the passions of the fans. Liverpool has a 130 year history.

All clubs worldwide have foreign born players. Liverpool still have a good number of English born players and many who are born in the city.

It was the EU regulations which changed who could play for clubs. Removing borders meant foreign players could work in clubs.

The ownership of Liverpool and the foreign players does not take away anything from the fans. No fans no club.

Klopp feels and understands the passion of the fans.

Fenway got it badly wrong when it proposed the ESL. The fans reacted and Fenway backed down. Fenway made a massive apology to the fans.

All of your American soccer teams (as you call it there) all have foreign players and without them it probably wouldn’t have happened.

Some people have no idea about fan passion. Might help by going to a game or two.

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Why are there so few American players in European clubs?

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wallaceToday  04:46 pm JST

Why are there so few American players in European clubs?

Because there are more professional soccer teams in the US.

The MSL alone has more teams than the Premier League does.

Even competing with 4 other major sports, soccer is bigger in the US than in the UK.

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There hundreds of foreign players in the MLS.

The population of the US is about 350 million compared to England with about 45 million.

There are seven levels of leagues in English football. There are 92 clubs.

The MSL has 28 clubs.

How many foreign players in baseball?

WC rankings England 5th. USA 16th.

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Such a shame when people make draft comments.

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EPL ownership is a bit like F1 ownership now ......a big black hole of investment with a bunch of sheister advisors sponging on fees, the purchase is only for ego, guaranteed money loser. Might be used by totalitarian regimes as a diversion from their misdeeds

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wallaceNov. 28  05:40 pm JST

There hundreds of foreign players in the MLS.

The population of the US is about 350 million compared to England with about 45 million.

There are seven levels of leagues in English football. There are 92 clubs. 

The MSL has 28 clubs.

How many foreign players in baseball?

WC rankings England 5th. USA 16th.

The only WC ranking that really matters is reflected here mate

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2022/nov/25/england-v-usa-world-cup-2022-live-score-updates

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Logg

tell that to painkiller

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wallaceNov. 28  05:40 pm JST

WC rankings England 5th. USA 16th.

Laughable, considering the results.

LoggNov. 29  10:11 am JST

The only WC ranking that really matters is reflected here mate

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2022/nov/25/england-v-usa-world-cup-2022-live-score-updates

Looks like England and the US are evenly ranked, at the least.

wallaceNov. 28  05:40 pm JST

There hundreds of foreign players in the MLS.

The population of the US is about 350 million compared to England with about 45 million.

There are seven levels of leagues in English football. There are 92 clubs. 

The MSL has 28 clubs.

There are more than 100 professional soccer clubs in the US.

Even the USL Championship league has 24 teams.

And MLS Next Pro has 28 teams.

The number of participants in soccer in England does not even come close to that of in the US.

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American football is not even close to the No 1 league in the world, the Premier League. Stats say all.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1922780-statistically-ranking-the-worlds-top-10-football-leagues

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wallaceToday  04:11 am JST

American football is not even close to the No 1 league in the world, the Premier League. Stats say all.

Stats like the US tying England in the World Cup?

Or stats like over 60% of players in the Premier League being foreigners?

The English don't like playing anymore, it seems.

The Premier League has the highest percentage of foreign players of any European League, a new UEFA report has revealed.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10725849/premier-league-has-highest-percentage-of-foreign-players-uefa-report

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48% of MSL players are foreigners.

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wallaceToday  04:59 am JST

48% of MSL players are foreigners.

So a majority of players in the MSL are Americans and a majority of players in the Premier League are foreigners.

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painkiller

not a single MLS club in the best 100 football clubs in the world. Speaks volumes.

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wallaceToday  04:48 pm JST

painkiller

not a single MLS club in the best 100 football clubs in the world. Speaks volumes.

What speaks volume is this:

Almost every Premier League team is foreign-owned, and the majority of players are not English.

England invented soccer I thought; no one from England wants to own a team or even play in their own league?

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Liverpool have 130 year history starting out in division two when I was a child.

Today, Liverpool is ranked fifth best club in the world. Man U is sixth.

Both achieved in spite of the ownership.

Some people should give up instead of taking a dive.

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painkiller

There are 557 players in the Premier League. 351 or 63% are born in the UK. 37% are non-Brits compared with the MLS with 48% of non-American players.

https://www.premierleague.com/players

The Brits are very good at getting foreign investors for the clubs because of the standard of football. They only invest because it is good value for them.

England invented soccer I thought; no one from England wants to own a team or even play in their own league?

43% of Premier League clubs are owned by Brits. 34% of the Championship League is owned by Brits. 85% of League One is owned by Brits. 94% of League Two is owned by Brits.

The foreign owners are in it for the money, not the football, and go for the Premier League clubs.

https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/articles/football-team-owners/

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wallaceNov. 30  06:32 pm JST

There are 557 players in the Premier League. 351 or 63% are born in the UK. 37% are non-Brits compared with the MLS with 48% of non-American players.

*As the chart shows, foreign players outweighed English players by a rate of almost 2:1. For the exact figures, out of 508 players that had played at least one Premier League minute, *331 were foreign, giving us a rate of 65.2%.

https://www.footballbettingsites.org.uk/blog/how-many-foreign-players-are-there-in-the-premier-league/

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63% of Premier League players are born in the UK.

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wallaceToday  09:58 am JST

63% of Premier League players are born in the UK.

And Liverpool--22 out of 36 players are not English.

Need to bring in players from other countries it seems.

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Liverpool and every other Premier League club are only allowed to register 25 players and no more than 17 are allowed to come under the 'non-homegrown' category. The clubs can sign as many U21 players as they like.

All football leagues have foreign players.

You are posting your obsessions now.

The EU regulations created the current positions for the clubs.

The Premier League is the best in the world.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10725849/premier-league-has-highest-percentage-of-foreign-players-uefa-report

I think having a mixture of nationalities is a good point, not a bad one. Showing that groups of more than 65 nationalities can work together in harmony. Great role model for others.

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There was a time when English clubs had mostly English players and at Liverpool, many were born there. There are still Liverpool-born players.

The EU changed the regulations because every player in Europe is the EU. We have since left the EU.

I didn't deny anything.

Changes have to be embraced. Fenway will move on and a new club owner will come. But the club and the fans remain the same.

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“Our club, at this moment in time more than ever, needs the right ownership and that should be the priority rather than simply the highest bidders and highest return for you,” Manchester United Supporters’ Trust wrote in an open letter to the Glazers this week.

So it isn't about money.

Supporters have criticized the Glazers for a perceived under-investment on and off the field, as well as the level of debt the family accrued during its leveraged buyout of the club.

Oh, I guess it is about money.

The foreign owners of these teams have contributed greatly to their success. It is amazing there are so many foreign owners of these teams. In the US as a comparison sports teams are owned by US or Canadian owners.

It seems American ingenuity goes a long way.

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