World Boxing to announce major increase in membership after Paris in its bid to save Olympic boxing

This Algerian woman should get a lawyer,her lawsuit are worth billion of dollars

More is not always better. One of the problems for boxing is the judging. The judges are chosen from the member states, not all of them have quality or in some cases, honest judges. There were as usual some shocking decisions at this games.

The male/ female "problem" needs to be sorted. Boxing is not ping pong, an elite male 60 kg boxer has 160% the punching power of an elite 60 kg woman. There are genuine fairness and also safety concerns.

Must be all those men moving into the women's division.

Once the World Boxing becomes the new authority, they should settle this before the next Olympics

“It’s a complicated matter, and also for World Boxing, it’s very important that we already assigned our medical committee to engage experts,” said Van Der Vorst said. “Taking care of the safety and integrity of the sport, those are the two most important items that should be addressed there. But it is a really complicated matter.”

It's not that complicated. The IBA addressed this with their criteria: male=XY and female=XX.

If Van Der Vorst was part of the olympic boxing fiasco, stubbornly ignoring the IBA's warnings because ... "Russia". I guess we should expect more of the same from World Boxing.

Dr. Ioannis Filippatos, the former Chair of IBA Medical Committee and an OB/GYN with three decades of experience:

"The medical result, blood result, looks - and the laboratory says - that these boxers are male."

"The problem is that we have two blood exams with karyotype of male. This is the answer from the laboratory."

Why didn't the IOC do a similar test?

Wick's pencil

Today 01:44 pm JST

Dr. Ioannis Filippatos, the former Chair of IBA Medical Committee and an OB/GYN with three decades of experience:

> "The medical result, blood result, looks - and the laboratory says - that these boxers are male."

> "The problem is that we have two blood exams with karyotype of male. This is the answer from the laboratory."

> Why didn't the IOC do a similar test?

Because under Olympic rules males are allowed to compete in the female categories?

It's not that complicated. The IBA addressed this with their criteria: male=XY and female=XX.

And with the unethical targeted testing, and with the complete lack of transparency about their test and results, that is why it was very simple to simply bann the organization and ignore anything they have to say about anything in the sport.

Dr. Ioannis Filippatos, the former Chair of IBA Medical Committee and an OB/GYN with three decades of experience:

So your argument is to trust someone already infamous for rampant corruption that offers no evidence of what he claims? the "Just trust me, bro" argument doesn't work even for people without such strong reasons to be disbelieved, much less to someone like him and in a situation which have suh obvious conflicts of interest.

Why didn't the IOC do a similar test?

You mean why not make unethical targeted tests un who knows what?

I mean "looks"? it is difficult for someone corrupt to be more obvious about how invalid their determination are,.

What should be done is to first define an objective and validated algorithm of testing that experts in both sports and gender issues agree with before just breaking the rights of the women and have their determinations thrown away because they were unethical and invalid (as the IBA did).

Because under Olympic rules males are allowed to compete in the female categories?

that is false, still thinking gender and sex as it was understood 2 centuries ago is not exactly an argument to criticize people that have a much more valid understanding of the issues.

virusrex

Today 01:58 pm JST

Because under Olympic rules males are allowed to compete in the female categories?

> that is false, still thinking gender and sex as it was understood 2 centuries ago is not exactly an argument to criticize people that have a much more valid understanding of the issues.

Lol I'm sure that is supported by all institution of science and medicine

Lol I'm sure that is supported by all institution of science and medicine

Since you have repeatedly failed to produce even one single institution that supports your claim that X and Y chromosomes define without exception sex or gender that would be the only logical consequence.

virusrex

Today 01:58 pm JST

Because under Olympic rules males are allowed to compete in the female categories?

> that is false, still thinking gender and sex as it was understood 2 centuries ago is not exactly an argument to criticize people that have a much more valid understanding of the issues.

Why do you always divert the question and make up convoluted answers virusrex

You must know it's obvious to everyone.

virusrex

Today 02:06 pm JST

Lol I'm sure that is supported by all institution of science and medicine

> Since you have repeatedly failed to produce even one single institution that supports your claim that X and Y chromosomes define without exception sex or gender that would be the only logical consequence.

Lol even adding gender to the mix you're trying desperately to muddle up the issue.

I don't have to produce an institution lol.

Raw BeerToday 11:46 am JST

It's not that complicated. The IBA addressed this with their criteria: male=XY and female=XX.

So what about the XXYs or the XYs with female levels of testosterone and appear female?

Why do you always divert the question and make up convoluted answers virusrex

You were the one complaining about it, there is no convolution with saying your opinion is unscientific.

Lol even adding gender to the mix you're trying desperately to muddle up the issue.

Take out gender, you still could not produce any institution, either the whole scientific community is wrong or you are. It is quite clear which side is.

I don't have to produce an institution lol.

Of course not, accepting the science is right when they contradict your personal opinion about sex is enough, then you don't have to prove otherwise.

virusrex

Today 01:58 pm JST

Because under Olympic rules males are allowed to compete in the female categories?

> that is false, still thinking gender and sex as it was understood 2 centuries ago is not exactly an argument to criticize people that have a much more valid understanding of the issues.

By the way since you apparently did not understand the comment you're responding to, better read it again.

virusrex

Today 02:15 pm JST

Why do you always divert the question and make up convoluted answers virusrex

> You were the one complaining about it, there is no convolution with saying your opinion is unscientific.

> Lol even adding gender to the mix you're trying desperately to muddle up the issue.

> Take out gender, you still could not produce any institution, either the whole scientific community is wrong or you are. It is quite clear which side is.

> I don't have to produce an institution lol.

> Of course not, accepting the science is right when they contradict your personal opinion about sex is enough, then you don't have to prove otherwise.

What exactly is wrong in what I say lol