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mike1492
Blockchain internet is the future.
therougou
I guess GAFA have prevented Japanese companies from providing their famous "omotenashi", which of course includes fixing prices, making it damn near impossible to return a purchase, and giving you a brain hemorrhage while you try to find the "Add to cart" button on their product page. This of course topped off with the cookie-cutter plain text e-mail which will give you a bunch of information you don't need on top of your actual order info.
TARA TAN KITAOKA
Pls list clearly fair .
lostrune2
More than half (now about 60%) of sales on Amazon are not from Amazon itself, but instead from 3rd-party sellers. They're outselling Amazon
Jeff Bezos says third-party sellers on Amazon are “kicking our butt”
https://qz.com/1592802/jeff-bezos-third-party-sellers-on-amazon-are-kicking-our-butt/
CS
Its all relative, for example if a recording artist sells 20 million records, then makes another record and it only sells 5 million, it is considered a failure.
titin
Good is a euphemism. They’re quick, reliable and cheap.
Japanese companies are beginning to understand how useless and expensive the resale concept is.
Last week I wanted to buy a cold press juicer: 1) price at Bic Camera 26000 yen 2) price on amazon 19000 yen. Bye Bic Camera!
god bless free market.
therougou
I actually blamed Amazon for that recently and they paid the shipping when I returned it. Their customer support is really good.
kohakuebisu
We recently bought a tv and it was 10% cheaper at the weekend for three weekends running. That was on Joshin, Bic Camera (through points), and Amazon (cash price).
When buying something recommended off Amazon, be sure it is actually the same as the thing you were already looking at. You can do a search for prime stuff that will come the next day, yet be recommended other stuff that is not prime and take a week to come. Or be recommended stuff that is similar but a different size and not compatible.
rgcivilian1
therougou
I think it is more of Amazon vs it's own sellers. But if Amazon doesn't show the cheaper and better product, users will turn to Rakuten or Yahoo in the end, I guess.
therougou
True, there are some ridiculous prices, but it's easy to weed those out.
Also Amazon raises the prices sometimes when they are low in stock.
gogogo
If you can't beat them, hinder them.
jiji Xx
"fair competition"..... what does that mean I wonder. in any form of competition there will winners and losers.
rather sounds to me like taking legal action to selectively stifle competition..... after having consulted with "domestic information technology firms Rakuten Inc. and Yahoo Japan Corp." (my emphasis)
sakurasuki
Not to mention Japan content industry that supposed to have lot of potential.
Ask anyone who live outside Japan, what kind of online service they use from Japan most of them they will say nothing.
From China service Alibaba or Aliexpress are use by people worldwide
JJ Jetplane
The only thing I am hearing is that Rakuten and Yahoo are finding it hard to compete so we have to give them handicaps.
Also, many Japanese companies don't have an online presence and that is part of the reason they are not able to capitalize on certain things.
When it comes to Rakuten vs Amazon. There is no comparison. It is difficult to find things on Rakuten. As for Yahoo Japan, many of their services are only in Japanese so it can frustrating to use sometimes.
Do the hustle
They need introduce legislation to control the Japanese sellers within the organizations. I use amazon.jp a lot. The price differences between the sane product and different sellers is astonishing. You’ll find the same item listed for ¥3,000 or ¥30,000. That is what they should be focusing on.
sakurasuki
How about mandating NHK to show, how the pick their headlines? That's should be disclosed too.
Derek Grebe
Fair competition in Japan? Yeah, right.
I'm looking forward to the day I can buy some basmati rice without having to spring for a 700% tariff to make sure some 75-year-old with half an acre in Chiba keeps voting LDP.
Yubaru
Meaning what? Just because a conglomerate loses money in one sector does not make it a failure.
sakurasuki
It's kind of protection that make people forget what scandals that happened. Who are people that involved in that scandal or what this person did in the past?
GW
I don't trust fb goggle etc etc BUT I also DONT trust the J-govt EITHER!
As many have correctly pointed out price competition doesn't really exist in Japan. I have said for decades that VALUE for $$$$ in Japan is extremely LOW!! Service is usually good but value seldom measures up!
So in the end I guess I don't trust ANY of these companies or govt to do RIGHT by us consumers sadly!
Numan
@Yubaru
Japan’s Softbank posts big losses after WeWork debacle
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/softbank-group-plunges-to-6point5-billion-quarterly-loss.html
OK!
Aly Rustom
Funny? More like downright ridiculous!
I know! did my head in as well!!
EXACTLY
kohakuebisu
This sounds like a token measure to please someone, a retail association or the like.
Of the companies mentioned, the worse by far is Facebook, which is happy to spread political propaganda, outright lies even, so long as they make money from it. We have not heard much about this in Japan yet, but it will be coming. Second worst is Google, not for biasing shopping searches, but for massive data collection and selling on, based on scant consumer protection. The average person does not have a clue what they are doing. They just think they are getting free web searches, free email, and a free satnav. Compared to what is going on, promoting product A over product B is minor issue.
Jason'sWAY
Price fixing is illegal in many other countries. When I share this with the locals they are most surprised to here how much I paid for this and that. The more we say about how the rest of the world actually lives the more freedom people here may be able to gain from being slaves to corporate juggernauts. Policies about work overtime has changed very quickly. Yet the protection of domestic financial interests may never change. Sorry Japan you may never be able to buy the latest mobile for $20 with a $5 SIM without hidden clauses. I must say all the comments here are all very true. And one final comment from me. Thank you Amazon, I could afford to buy this keyboard by which I can type this comment.
Yubaru
Huh? Softbank hasn't failed, not even close to it. They still made profits of over 400 BILLION yen.
If that is a "failure" to you, I wonder what the hell a success is?!?!
Sh1mon M4sada
will it have teeth?
Numan
Social media (Twitter, Facebook, etc...) allows good news and bad news to travel quickly these days. It is easy to give feedback on the best companies to buy products and services with the best prices.
Japan is really big on getting companies to partner up, so the Japanese company can be the sole distributor that doubles or triples the original price, but people understand that buying direct can be cheaper (Apple).
People are more tech savvy and can find the products for much cheaper prices including shipping (Amazon, Google).
More Japanese companies want the J-government to control powerful global tech companies like they did Uber and AirBnB instead of offering competitive prices.
Yubaru
Can anyone remember, region locked DVD's, unable to use cell phones overseas because they are locked here in Japan, and a host of other "Japan" specific rules and regulations.
And they want to talk about "fair" competition?
Numan
It sounds like they are trying to make sure their retail cartels stay in power. Price fixing is the name of the game with Japan.
China's strategy is protect, steal, copy, and compete.
Japan' strategy is protect, protect, protect and protect. (They want to help Yahoo Japan and Rakuten. They don't want another failure like Son's Softbank.)
Why would the companies provide regular reports to a country who Technology Minister is an oldman that admitted that he doesn't know how to use technology? This bill has no teeth.
I have seen companies in Japan refuse service to customers simply because they are foreigners without batting an eye from the government or public at large.
Why should foreign businesses have to explain themselves? Foreign businesses like customers don't want to do business with companies trying to overcharge them.
Dango bong
Japan trying to keep "fair" business practices LOL!!
titin
The advertising system is a variation of the collaborative filtering, similar to the one used on netflix to recommend new shows.
There is nothing wrong with it, and it even sometimes help - especially on amazon - when you are trying to decide whether to go for a product or another.
Unfortunately, in Japan, resellers are in a cartel, fixing prices and making no real competition. It is funny they claim GAFA promote unfair competition.
Japan, shout less and study more.
rgcivilian1
If I can get the best deal by whatever means are necessary a company is using I really don't care. I like most consumers are looking for the better deal and less out of pocket costs. Here in Japan that is very difficult as there is no price competition just one monopoly system. It comes down to customer like or dislike of brand name.
Yubaru
Happens all the time, did a search for some shoes the other day on google, and WHAM my FB page "mysteriously" was headed by advertising for guess what......
Good luck in actually getting something done with this!