Anti-terror tech group worried X membership threatens its credibility, The Sunday Times reports

This never seemed to bother them when the leftists were running Twitter. Typical hypocrites.

Free speech for me, but not for thee.

This never seemed to bother them when the leftists were running Twitter. Typical hypocrites.

That would be because the current administration of twitter is responsible for the rampant racism, harassment, extremism of the platform. This group is not the only one complaining about the current situation of twitter, saying this was not the case on the previous administration is a huge argument against this one.

It was a far-left feeding frenzy rife with hate and censorship before Musk bought it and cleaned it out. 

Valid censorship of hate speech, discrimination, harassment and extremism. Which made the platform at least a little bit respectable.

You seem to be for free speech when it suits your needs

That would be Musk, that keeps repeating free speech must be absolute, and then censor anyone that he doesn't like.

Rational people clearly understand that hate and violence are perfectly valid targets of censorship and that nothing good comes from promoting it as Musk is now doing.

It was a far-left feeding frenzy rife with hate and censorship before Musk bought it and cleaned it out. You seem to be for free speech when it suits your needs, but are nothing but a mini-Mao when there's something that you disagree with.

What a far-right load...

Musk promised free access to everyone, then went back on his word and started censoring everything except the far-right crazies...

Musk is doing to X what he is doing to Tesla - running it into the ground...

How many Teslas do you own?

Kick X out of the group. Problem solved.

Musk is only for absolute free speech as it allows his to spread disinformation disguised as free speech , it all about controlling the narrative when you dont have facts to back you.

Disinformation is a cheap but dangerous tool .

How many Teslas do you own?

Most of his fans can't afford Teslas, so they have to buy MyPillows instead.

Free speech for me, but not for thee.

Why must "free speech" absolutists focus on spreading hate and discrimination?

This never seemed to bother them when the leftists were running Twitter.

This is a really weird comment as Hamas is a right-wing group, as all the other "nationalist" groups.

Funny how the left goes on and on about the dangers of the right, but it is the left leaning parties and countries that have more laws controling free speech and requiring forced speech.

Possible fines, imprisonment etc... for not complying with someone else's demands to use what they tell you to use, government dictating words you can and cannot use, etc...

Remember, there was/is almost zero difference between Fascist/Nazi socialism and Bolshevik/communism socialism.

Both want to control what you do and say, both limit free speech, both will imprison those that disagree with them, both will use "reeducation" as a weapon/tool (today we have China, north Korea but also places like Canada that use laws and regulations to force those not complying with the "newspeak" into reeducation.

I will note this!:

Community Security Trust (CST), a charity that combats extremism and antisemitism.

Note the need to make anti-Semitism a separate thing instead of just say combat extremism.

What about other far more persecuted minorities such as the Romani, etc...

Does their fight against extremism include fat right Zionists like Netanyahu?

Anith Thompson Reuters mountain out of a molehill article.

There are always political double standards.

The "right" extremists are a threat, the left extremist are just protecting xyz or something they invented.

But if we look at violence, there has been far more violence by the far left than the right.

The way they get away is to say 50% of right wing events turn violent only 5% to 10% of left ones do.

But they fail to show the actual numbers and that shows that the left has over 10 times the number or violent events.

Meaning the left us constantly out protesting so by percentage is low but numbers are high.

The "right" extremists are a threat, the left extremist are just protecting xyz or something they invented.

Like protecting democracy...

But if we look at violence, there has been far more violence by the far left than the right.

Wrong...

The way they get away is to say 50% of right wing events turn violent only 5% to 10% of left ones do. But they fail to show the actual numbers and that shows that the left has over 10 times the number or violent events.

Sure, that's why the left want common-sense gun control and the far-right want an AR15 in every crib...

Meaning the left us constantly out protesting so by percentage is low but numbers are high.

Word salad...

Funny how the left goes on and on about the dangers of the right, but it is the left leaning parties and countries that have more laws controling free speech and requiring forced speech.

When the dangers are about promoting violence and extremism there is no contradiction, there is no requirement to "forced speech" and it should be clear for anybody that control of free speech is positive when those extremes are the ones being controlled.

Possible fines, imprisonment etc... for not complying with someone else's demands to use what they tell you to use, government dictating words you can and cannot use, etc..

How does this applies in cases like this where companies and organizations recognize one private service became a nest of disinformation and extremist propaganda that promotes violence so they no longer feel they should promote that service? The related exodus of companies that no longer want to invest their money buying announcements in twitter (and that Musk is trying to demand for doing it) is another example of the same thing.

lincolnman

Today 06:26 pm JST

common-sense gun control and the far-right want an AR15 in every crib...Word salad

Now nice try to mix up and pick and choose.

I am anti guns not American and think the whole idea of owning guns is nuts.

But nothing I wrote had anything to do with guns!

I wrote facts, you can look them up instead of trying to bring the unrelated gun thing in to try deflecting.

The USA isn't the only country or the only country using X.

And on any given day, you will find a protest going on by some left group.

It could be something important like freedom of movement, or more likely a protest against pickles at McDonald's or hair colour.

But you can be sure that if you hear about a violent riot odds are it will be left like Antifa, etc..

Since the end of WW2 terrorist acts have been largely leftist groups.

You can look it up.

If we look at the USA as you wanted by bringing up guns.

On average there are 500 right wing events/protests. And as I pointed out around half will end in violence and of those 70% will have been due to left wing groups interrupting the protest/events.

But there are 15,000 yep no joke, 15,000 left events/protests per year in the USA and between 700 to 1500 will end in some sort of violence resulting in property damage, injuries , clashing with police or others.

In France the same, Germany, UK, etc...the probably of a leftist violent event is far higher than a right wing event.

The attacks on the French rail system was by leftists not right wing, and no one seemed surprised.

virusrex

Today 07:40 pm JST

How does this applies in cases like this where companies and organizations recognize one private service became a nest of disinformation and extremist propaganda

Oh please, go to instagram, YouTube, you want disinformation!

They excel in it.

From political to biological, and more often than not. On the left.

As I tried pointing out.

If someone posts an anti Arab comment even an ethnic cleansing of Arabs/Palestinians generally that remains.

Do the same about Jews and it will not pass.

You can post how bad white people are say any false information you like even post kill all whites and odds are it will not be removed and there are plenty of examples go look.

But on all those platforms no way could anyone do the same replacing white with another ethic group.

Go look do a little checking of your own instead of just repeating what MSM tells you.

Oh please, go to instagram, YouTube, you want disinformation!

good argument to convince the anti terror group not to have accounts there, but a terrible one to say they should keep theirs in twitter.

If you identify extremism and openly calling for violence and war then you criticize it, but if you try to use that as an excuse to dismiss criticism of this being done elsewhere you are part of the problem and not the solution.

The Threat from Extreme Right-Wing Terrorism

ProtectUK publication date

28/02/2023

Extreme Right-Wing Terrorism (ERWT) describes those involved in Extreme Right-Wing activity who use violence in furtherance of their ideology. These ideologies can be broadly characterised as Cultural Nationalism, White Nationalism and White Supremacism.

https://www.protectuk.police.uk/threat-risk/threat-analysis/threat-extreme-right-wing-terrorism

virusrex

Today 08:08 pm JST

If you identify extremism and openly calling for violence and war then you criticize it, but if you try to use that as an excuse to dismiss criticism of this being done elsewhere you are part of the problem and not the solution.

Tell that to BLM and Antifa.

They have both done it and the politics established have turned a blind eye to that.

Look it up.

Tell that to BLM and Antifa.

Why? do they have to approve what you write? Or this is just deflecting the criticism as if it did not apply to you?

You are the one writing here to justify twitter becoming a hole of racism, extremism and calls for violence, not anybody else.

Now nice try to mix up and pick and choose.

What?

I am anti guns not American and think the whole idea of owning guns is nuts.

Good for you...

But nothing I wrote had anything to do with guns!

You said the left was more violent than the far-right - I said rightists are for guns for everyone...which you evidently agree with...

I wrote facts, you can look them up instead of trying to bring the unrelated gun thing in to try deflecting.

See above...

The USA isn't the only country or the only country using X.

Indeed - Russia, nKorea, China, and Iran are all over it...manipulating the feeble-minded far-right...

And on any given day, you will find a protest going on by some left group.

True - peaceful protests...

It could be something important like freedom of movement, or more likely a protest against pickles at McDonald's or hair colour.

Uhh....OK, sure...

But you can be sure that if you hear about a violent riot odds are it will be left like Antifa, etc..

Since the end of WW2 terrorist acts have been largely leftist groups.

You can look it up.

On some far-right nut-job website? No thanks...

If we look at the USA as you wanted by bringing up guns.

On average there are 500 right wing events/protests. And as I pointed out around half will end in violence and of those 70% will have been due to left wing groups interrupting the protest/events.

But there are 15,000 yep no joke, 15,000 left events/protests per year in the USA and between 700 to 1500 will end in some sort of violence resulting in property damage, injuries , clashing with police or others.

You live in some alt-reality far-right fantasy-land....

In France the same, Germany, UK, etc...the probably of a leftist violent event is far higher than a right wing event.

The attacks on the French rail system was by leftists not right wing, and no one seemed surprised.

More far-right nonsense...

Ditch the far-right goggles and come back to reality...

More than 10000 people have been arrested in protests decrying racism and police brutality in the wake of George Floyd's death, according to an Associated Press tally of known arrests across the U.S.

https://apnews.com/article/american-protests-us-news-arrests-minnesota-burglary-bb2404f9b13c8b53b94c73f818f6a0b7

lincolnman

Today 06:26 pm JS

Sure, that's why the left want common-sense gun control and the far-right want an AR15 in every crib...

You tried to somehow link my comment to guns.

I live in Japan and one great thing is the strict gun laws.

But let's look at that attempt of yours to equate gun violent with the Right for fun.

There were over 40,000 killed by guns in 2023 in the USA.

Over half were suicides (we can expect they would have found another way if they didn't have a gun just look at suicide stats in Japan).

Of the rest, 1,344 were killed by police.

597 in what are classified as mass shootings, 4 or more killed or injured, of those, the vast majority were in places with strict gun laws and were mostly related to gang violence and domestic violence and in Democrat controlled/voting areas.

The rest are domestic violence, criminal activities, and again are in mostly left leaning areas.

As much as I hate guns of any kind and see zero reason to own one.

The false MSM and left to try and make it seem like the AR15 is the big problem is to deflect from the real problem of inner cities where the handgun is the primary weapon used and the vast majority of those killed by guns were by handguns in what one would classify as Blue states/cities.

Now here is how the MSM and others skew the information.

If you look for a map on gun violence or gun deaths, you will get a map based on per capita by state.

This will give states with lower populations a higher per capita and states with extremely large populations, a lower per capita death rate.

This makes it look like one state has more death than the other When in reality, the larger state has a far greater number of gun violence and deaths.

So often Red States look like they have more gun violence and deaths than a blue state, but in reality the blue state's gun deaths far out number the red state.

This is how stats are manipulated to give one side or the other the view they want to promote.

I am saying the about because you tried to deflect into something that has nothing to do with right or left and despite my hatred for guns it is not hard to dismantle the AR15 etc..deflection.

Now can we get back to the actual facts ?

lincolnman

Today 08:27 pm JST

But you can be sure that if you hear about a violent riot odds are it will be left like Antifa, etc..

> Since the end of WW2 terrorist acts have been largely leftist groups.

> You can look it up.

> On some far-right nut-job website? No thanks...

Here is where having knowledge and knowing history and facts come in

West German Red Army Faction (RAF), the Italian Red Brigades (BR),[18] the Greek Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17N), the French Action Directe (AD), and the Belgian Communist Combatant Cells (CCC). Japanese Red Army and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam,

Nicaraguan Sandinistas, the Peruvian Shining Path and the Colombian 19th of April Movement.

The Weather Underground,

the Symbionese Liberation Armythe May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO) etc....and that is just a partial list.

I barely touched on the extent of violent left wing groups.

The reality is most people can name at least one violent left terrorist group but not one right wing one.

lincolnman

> Today 08:27 pm JST

Putting aside the guns which I think we both agree on as I see no reason for anyone to have one, I never owned one never even used one and I see no reason why I would or care to even see what it is like to shoot one!

You sound just like the people you complain about.

You find a way to justify violence whether verbal or physical if it supports your position.

But then you get upset when the other side does the same.

You are willing to accept violence and removing other people's rights (not talking about guns this is almost purely a USA problem and stupidity).

You would limit their freedom of speech because you don't like what they say. But then if they try to limit your freedom of speech because they don't like what you say. Well that's "wrong" and that upsets you.

Your comments seem to make it clear. Violence is okay if it supports your view.

Sure, that's why the left want common-sense gun control and the far-right want an AR15 in every crib...

You tried to somehow link my comment to guns.

I guess you think guns aren't violent...interesting view....

I live in Japan and one great thing is the strict gun laws.

Well, thanks for agreeing with me....

But let's look at that attempt of yours to equate gun violent with the Right for fun.

What? I never said the right have "fun" with guns....you really think so?

As much as I hate guns of any kind and see zero reason to own one.

The false MSM and left to try and make it seem like the AR15 is the big problem is to deflect from the real problem of inner cities where the handgun is the primary weapon used and the vast majority of those killed by guns were by handguns in what one would classify as Blue states/cities.

Sure.....what gun did the registered Republican that tried to assassinate Trump use?

Now here is how the MSM and others skew the information.

Far-right BS...

I am saying the about because you tried to deflect into something that has nothing to do with right or left and despite my hatred for guns it is not hard to dismantle the AR15 etc..deflection.

You're deflecting from reality...

Now can we get back to the actual facts ?

Hannibal Lector a wonderful man?

virusrex

Today 08:17 pm JST

Tell that to BLM and Antifa.

> Why? do they have to approve what you write? Or this is just deflecting the criticism as if it did not apply to you?

> You are the one writing here to justify twitter becoming a hole of racism, extremism and calls for violence, not anybody else.

Funny, where was this great concern when Twitter was letting groups post:

" Today I feel like going out and killing white people"

One of the main leaders of BLM Canada wrote that and not much happened.

I guess it was fine with you and the rest when it was those you support saying these things but not when you disagree with a certain group.

I don't support the far right, I would be crazy to do so, I have the one thing all far right racists groups agree on and hate, mix ethnic children!

You want to see a right wing white supremists upset, a black supremist, a Japanese supremist, etc..upset show them a mixed ethnic (race) couple with mixed children and watch them blow up.

But like others you seem fine if one side does something because you support that side but if the other side does the same thing well suddenly you want to remove that right.

As long as the old Twitter was letting violent post by the far left only everything was fine, now that it lets anyone do the same including the far left, now you are upset.

I will never agree with these far right or far left losers but I love the hypocrisy now that both sides can post the same junk.