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Apple blames external damage for flaming China iPhones

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I don't think you heard the state-run Shanghai Consumer Council right, Apple. It's the equivalent of the mob saying, "Your bar looks like a fire hazard. It would be a pity if it went up in smoke. We can keep a watch over it."

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Why haven't we heard about this in the rest of the world.

Is our internet being censored?

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Stay away from Apple products. Too dangerous for consumers.

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Stay away from Apple products. Too dangerous for consumers.

Stay away from China. Too dangerous for consumers.

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Stay away from China. Too dangerous for consumers.

It is (or can be) great for us producers though - I make a lot of money from China.

...for now. I've got contingency plans for if/when they fall apart.

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Yes, Apple products overheat and fail. Apple has the lamestream media in its pocket.

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Chinese consumer agencies at the behest of government have bashed Western companies (including Apple) in the past for political purposes . And that's a shame because it creates doubts and compromises their integrity.

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Yes, Apple products overheat and fail.

I've never had it happen, and I've bought dozens of Apple products.

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Might as well just say anything with computer components can overheat, because it can. Adding "Apple" into that sentence is simply there to start an Apple vs Android war.

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All my apple products have been great until my iPad 2 just failed, but it was old.

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a Shanghai consumer watchdog said last Friday it had received eight recent reports of iPhones that spontaneously combusted while being used or charged.

Immediately after this announcement, horse puckey meters went off the scale all around the world.

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Apples roasting on an open fire Watchdogs nipping on your nose

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Strangerland: I've never had it happen, and I've bought dozens of Apple products.

Just looking at iPhones, there were 131M iPhones in China at end of 2015. A 'handful' blew up. If we count a 'handful' as 10 devices, and all your iPhones are in China, the chances of one of those being yours is 0.00000763 percent, multiplied by the number of iPhones you personally have. If that's 10 iPhones, the chance is 0.0000763 percent.

http://fortune.com/2016/05/18/apple-iphone-china/

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Just looking at iPhones, there were 131M iPhones in China at end of 2015. A 'handful' blew up. If we count a 'handful' as 10 devices, and all your iPhones are in China, the chances of one of those being yours is 0.00000763 percent, multiplied by the number of iPhones you personally have. If that's 10 iPhones, the chance is 0.0000763 percent.

Your numbers entirely prove Fredrick Bastiat's claim that apple devices overheat.

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So... get a state-run agency to dodgy up a few complaints, have them step in to ban the phones, then the market is clear to be flooded by all the cheap Chinese iPhone rip-offs. Keep the profits in-house so to speak. Wasn't there a boss in China some time back threatening to sack any worker who bought an iPhone?

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Stay away from Apple products. Too dangerous for consumers.

I've lost count of how much money I've made on China after the first billion. With offices in Shanghai, Beijing and one in the Forbidden City, I've instructed my teams there to be prepared to pull out at any time despite my friendly golf games with Xi Jinping.

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It seems more likely that the Chinese are making a play to steal market shares for their local companies backed by the government. They don't care about patents. There are whole towns in China that manufacture knock off goods like iPhones for black markets all over the world. Some of these rings are large enough to go legit.

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^ I would pay very close attention to those devices from China. I remember read it somewhere that they have spy ware factory installed in their products.

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Strangerland: Your numbers entirely prove Fredrick Bastiat's claim that apple devices overheat.

If that was the point, could have just googled:

https://www.google.com/#q=overheating+iphone

About 555,000 results

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^^^ Yes, that.

"Your numbers entirely prove Fredrick Bastiat's claim that apple devices overheat."

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I guess you missed the sarcasm.

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It's quite amusing that al the Apple bashers come out and state "stay away from Apple products because they overheat", even though this article clearly states the overheating was due to external damage. I'm on my fourth iPhone and third iPad and possibly my 20th Apple computer and have never had any trouble with them. They say, "a smart phone is only as smart as the person using it" I guess there are a lot of stupid people using not-so-smart Android phones.

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Disillusioned: even though this article clearly states the overheating was due to external damage

The article clearly states Apple claims that, not that it's truth.

Strangerland: I guess you missed the sarcasm.

No /sarc warning, how can we tell it from your other posts?

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Strangerland: Your numbers don't even remotely prove Frederic's claims. He claimed that Apple products overheat, they don't. Your numbers proved that.

It appears you're not clear on the difference between non-zero and zero.

And the numbers were based on the 'handful' described in the article. It doesn't mean that tiny number is correct. It ('handful') might even be copied from Apple's own press release.

Googling images for 'exploding iphone' may prove more helpful: https://www.google.com/search?q=exploding+iphones&tbm=isch

Burning large holes in car seats. Blasting much of the flesh off some poor person's finger. Pictures of iphones emitting smoke. Not zero.

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"Apple devices overheat" = Apple devices. All of them.

The truth is that so few of them overheat, it can be considered to be nil.

Apple devices don't overheat.

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Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 01:51PM JST The truth is that so few of them overheat, it can be considered to be nil. Apple devices don't overheat.

In a mass produce world, maybe the subcontractors are not as consistent was Apple want you to believe. What this tells is that there is a lack of quality control. The profit is more important to Apple than the safety of consumers.

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What this tells is that there is a lack of quality control.

Um, did you not look at Tubostat's numbers? 0.00000763%.

Your claim isn't backed up by the numbers provided by Turbostat.

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Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 02:05PM JSTUm, did you not look at Tubostat's numbers? 0.00000763%.

So what your saying is few incidents are acceptable? Apple has to investigate and see what the results are. If the problem lies with Apple, they need to fix the problem.

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So what your saying is few incidents are acceptable?

The incidents were a result of external damage. And the number is extremely low.

You are placing unrealistic expectations.

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The 'handful' in turbotsat's calculations is based on the same AFP article pushing Apple's line that "blames external damage for flaming China iPhones.

Strangerland: "Apple devices overheat" = Apple devices. All of them.

Note that "Apple devices overheat" does not contain the word "all".

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Samsung’s decision to kill the Note 7 might help it in the long run. “They made a really intelligent, hard choice that saved their brand and prevented what could have been a complete melting down of all the good will they had built over the last five years.

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Note that "Apple devices overheat" does not contain the word "all".

It doesn't need to. It's a claim that Apple devices overheat. If that is true, then why have none of mine ever overheat? The claim is that they do. My experiences prove that they don't.

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My experience prove that sudden accerleration does not happen in Toyota Camry? Does that matter?

It does if you are claiming that Toyota Camrys have sudden acceleration. If they do, then why don't all owners have the problem?

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In the court of law, it doesn't matter. As long as few confirmed events. This is the reason manufacturers have many recalls. It's the law.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the claim that Apple products overheat. Again, if that is the case, then why have none of mine ever done it?

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Strangerland: Which has absolutely nothing to do with the claim that Apple products overheat. Again, if that is the case, then why have none of mine ever done it?

Because when speaking English, "Apple devices overheat" can mean either "All Apple devices overheat" or "some Apple devices overheat".

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Readers, no more bickering please. Focus your comments on the story and not at each other.

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turbotsat DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:38PM JST Because when speaking English, "Apple devices overheat" can mean either "All Apple devices overheat" or "some Apple devices overheat".

if any devise overheat, Apple should learn from Samsung Note 7.

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if any devise overheat, Apple should learn from Samsung Note 7.

Samsung devices were overheating out of the box. Apple devices were overheating after external damage. Not the same thing.

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sfjp330: if any devise overheat, Apple should learn from Samsung Note 7.

Apple devices have been overheating for a while. Samsung should have learned from Apple and avoided their Note 7 mess.

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Apple devices have been overheating for a while.

None of mine have ever overheated, so no, they haven't.

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Generally, Apple devices don't overheat, and Samsung devices don't overheat - except for Note 7

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