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lostrune2
Generally, Apple devices don't overheat, and Samsung devices don't overheat - except for Note 7
Strangerland
None of mine have ever overheated, so no, they haven't.
turbotsat
Apple devices have been overheating for a while. Samsung should have learned from Apple and avoided their Note 7 mess.
Strangerland
Samsung devices were overheating out of the box. Apple devices were overheating after external damage. Not the same thing.
sfjp330
turbotsat DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:38PM JST Because when speaking English, "Apple devices overheat" can mean either "All Apple devices overheat" or "some Apple devices overheat".
if any devise overheat, Apple should learn from Samsung Note 7.
Moderator
Readers, no more bickering please. Focus your comments on the story and not at each other.
turbotsat
Because when speaking English, "Apple devices overheat" can mean either "All Apple devices overheat" or "some Apple devices overheat".
Strangerland
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the claim that Apple products overheat. Again, if that is the case, then why have none of mine ever done it?
Strangerland
It does if you are claiming that Toyota Camrys have sudden acceleration. If they do, then why don't all owners have the problem?
Strangerland
It doesn't need to. It's a claim that Apple devices overheat. If that is true, then why have none of mine ever overheat? The claim is that they do. My experiences prove that they don't.
sfjp330
Samsung’s decision to kill the Note 7 might help it in the long run. “They made a really intelligent, hard choice that saved their brand and prevented what could have been a complete melting down of all the good will they had built over the last five years.
turbotsat
The 'handful' in turbotsat's calculations is based on the same AFP article pushing Apple's line that "blames external damage for flaming China iPhones.
Note that "Apple devices overheat" does not contain the word "all".
Strangerland
The incidents were a result of external damage. And the number is extremely low.
You are placing unrealistic expectations.
sfjp330
Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 02:05PM JSTUm, did you not look at Tubostat's numbers? 0.00000763%.
So what your saying is few incidents are acceptable? Apple has to investigate and see what the results are. If the problem lies with Apple, they need to fix the problem.
Strangerland
Um, did you not look at Tubostat's numbers? 0.00000763%.
Your claim isn't backed up by the numbers provided by Turbostat.
sfjp330
Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 01:51PM JST The truth is that so few of them overheat, it can be considered to be nil. Apple devices don't overheat.
In a mass produce world, maybe the subcontractors are not as consistent was Apple want you to believe. What this tells is that there is a lack of quality control. The profit is more important to Apple than the safety of consumers.
Strangerland
"Apple devices overheat" = Apple devices. All of them.
The truth is that so few of them overheat, it can be considered to be nil.
Apple devices don't overheat.
turbotsat
It appears you're not clear on the difference between non-zero and zero.
And the numbers were based on the 'handful' described in the article. It doesn't mean that tiny number is correct. It ('handful') might even be copied from Apple's own press release.
Googling images for 'exploding iphone' may prove more helpful: https://www.google.com/search?q=exploding+iphones&tbm=isch
Burning large holes in car seats. Blasting much of the flesh off some poor person's finger. Pictures of iphones emitting smoke. Not zero.
turbotsat
The article clearly states Apple claims that, not that it's truth.
No /sarc warning, how can we tell it from your other posts?
Disillusioned
It's quite amusing that al the Apple bashers come out and state "stay away from Apple products because they overheat", even though this article clearly states the overheating was due to external damage. I'm on my fourth iPhone and third iPad and possibly my 20th Apple computer and have never had any trouble with them. They say, "a smart phone is only as smart as the person using it" I guess there are a lot of stupid people using not-so-smart Android phones.
Strangerland
I guess you missed the sarcasm.
Frederic Bastiat
^^^ Yes, that.
"Your numbers entirely prove Fredrick Bastiat's claim that apple devices overheat."
turbotsat
If that was the point, could have just googled:
https://www.google.com/#q=overheating+iphone
Cliffy
^ I would pay very close attention to those devices from China. I remember read it somewhere that they have spy ware factory installed in their products.
Silvafan
It seems more likely that the Chinese are making a play to steal market shares for their local companies backed by the government. They don't care about patents. There are whole towns in China that manufacture knock off goods like iPhones for black markets all over the world. Some of these rings are large enough to go legit.
clamenza
I've lost count of how much money I've made on China after the first billion. With offices in Shanghai, Beijing and one in the Forbidden City, I've instructed my teams there to be prepared to pull out at any time despite my friendly golf games with Xi Jinping.
donkusai
So... get a state-run agency to dodgy up a few complaints, have them step in to ban the phones, then the market is clear to be flooded by all the cheap Chinese iPhone rip-offs. Keep the profits in-house so to speak. Wasn't there a boss in China some time back threatening to sack any worker who bought an iPhone?
Strangerland
Your numbers entirely prove Fredrick Bastiat's claim that apple devices overheat.
turbotsat
Just looking at iPhones, there were 131M iPhones in China at end of 2015. A 'handful' blew up. If we count a 'handful' as 10 devices, and all your iPhones are in China, the chances of one of those being yours is 0.00000763 percent, multiplied by the number of iPhones you personally have. If that's 10 iPhones, the chance is 0.0000763 percent.
http://fortune.com/2016/05/18/apple-iphone-china/
sf2k
Apples roasting on an open fire Watchdogs nipping on your nose
LFRAgain
Immediately after this announcement, horse puckey meters went off the scale all around the world.
MsDelicious
All my apple products have been great until my iPad 2 just failed, but it was old.
weisse
Might as well just say anything with computer components can overheat, because it can. Adding "Apple" into that sentence is simply there to start an Apple vs Android war.
Strangerland
I've never had it happen, and I've bought dozens of Apple products.
paulinusa
Chinese consumer agencies at the behest of government have bashed Western companies (including Apple) in the past for political purposes . And that's a shame because it creates doubts and compromises their integrity.
Frederic Bastiat
Yes, Apple products overheat and fail. Apple has the lamestream media in its pocket.
Strangerland
It is (or can be) great for us producers though - I make a lot of money from China.
...for now. I've got contingency plans for if/when they fall apart.
papigiulio
Stay away from China. Too dangerous for consumers.
buffalo
Stay away from Apple products. Too dangerous for consumers.
SenseNotSoCommon
Why haven't we heard about this in the rest of the world.
Is our internet being censored?
Moonraker
I don't think you heard the state-run Shanghai Consumer Council right, Apple. It's the equivalent of the mob saying, "Your bar looks like a fire hazard. It would be a pity if it went up in smoke. We can keep a watch over it."