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Apple's tech jobs held mostly by white, Asian men

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By MICHAEL LIEDTKE

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Why are Western countries so obsessed with race and gender instead of a person's character?

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These companies should refuse to collect this information and employees should refuse to provide it. My son's school asks about ethnic background and religious affiliation every year and I always leave the boxes empty. The only reason they collect this information is to implement discriminatory policies that should be illegal.

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Here are 2013 USA census results, apparently whites at 54 percent are greatly under-represented at Apple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usa#Demographics

White 77.7% African American 13.2% Asian 5.3% American Indian and Alaska Native 1.2% Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2% Multiracial (2 or more) 2.4%

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Walk into any Computer Sciences, Engineering, and Math lecture halls in any major US university -- you'll mainly find white and Asians guys.

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@turbostat,

Those percentages are off considering part of the article's premise in the lede is that the Silicon Valley boom excludes Hispanics, whose tech employment is in the low single digits, despite being close to the majority in California. So you would have to unpack what you (or wikipedia) mean by white. Unless you think everyone from East L.A. up to the Bay goes around saying "odelay white man" to each other, you're missing something with those stats.

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"Ethnic diversity" is a load of liberal nonsense. Instead of hiring the most qualified people regardless of gender or race we (Americans) hire people first because of their race and lastly because of their skills. We do this just to feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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TorafusuTorasan

Those percentages are off considering part of the article's premise in the lede is that the Silicon Valley boom excludes Hispanics, whose tech employment is in the low single digits, despite being close to the majority in California.

Ha ha, thought of that after I posted, too. (But you misspelled "orale"!)

From another article Apple's totals are 55 W + 15 A + 11 H + 7 B + 2 O + 9 decline-to-state = 99 pct. 2013 USA census estimate has 78 W, 13 B, 5 A, 1 N, 0.2 Pacific Islander, with 17 H of any race. The Apple figures apparently only have Hispanics as separate category, USA census has them as combined category (of any race). But if we assume worst case and no Hispanics are White, that still gives us 78 - 17 = 61 pct W population. Apple has a 6 percent white-person deficit to make up to the underserved White community. (Just kidding!)

Note that Asian here is going to include East Indians as well as East (and any other kind of) Asians except Caucasian Asians.

And agree with what the others said. They don't hand out tech jobs to anyone who shows up. You need tech degree. Tech degree is obtained by personal choice. Much as I dislike Apple, they are not responsible for personal choices of the population of students leaving the mandatory environment (public school) for the by-choice environment (college).

http://recode.net/2014/08/12/apples-diversity-report-70-percent-male-55-percent-white-in-u-s/

In the United States, 55 percent of Apple’s workers are white. Asian workers represent 15 percent of Apple’s workforce, with 11 percent identifying as Hispanic, 7 percent Black and 2 percent as more than one ethnicity. Nine percent of workers did not declare their ethnicity.

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There are so few women programmers compared to men. In 1984, 37% of Computer Science degrees were awarded to women. In 2013 only about 20% of all U.S. computer programmers are female. These companies only want to hire best available candidates.

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In 1984, 37% of Computer Science degrees were awarded to women. In 2013 only about 20% of all U.S. computer programmers are female.

Lots of good programmers are engineers (like me). Lots of bad programmers are physicists. Computer Science degree is not required for programming, so the numbers are not going to match up. CS degree holders are a subset of "all U.S. programmers".

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Not happy to read that Facebook only has 4% Latinos working there?? Maybe we Latinos need to make a new rival to EL FACE, as many people call it, South of the Border.

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