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Chinese phones go global after pushing aside Apple, Samsung

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“For a thousand dollars, I can get five new phones in the space of two years,” he said. “I’ll always have the latest phone.”

There goes the planet. Thanks, Emptyhead!

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Just where are these Chinese phones, all copies of American and S. Korean phones, pushing aside the competition?

Huawei is now the third-largest smartphone maker in the world. Its market share exceeded 7 percent last year, compared with less than 6 percent in 2014, according to IDC.

Their sales are entirely in China, which shows at least one area of manufacturing where domestic market is important in China. However, don't look to China be exporting autos, appliances or electronics any time soon.

http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-market-share.jsp

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Yup and PRC phones are said to have backdoors that the communist party can exploit. If it was bad with Uncle Sam acting as big brother what would you think of Uncle Mao acting as a nagging back seat driver?

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However, don't look to China be exporting autos, appliances or electronics any time soon.

It's true that Haier, which is sold here, has not made much of a penetration under its own brand name. But if a Japanese-owned or joint venture factory in China sells its products in Japan, does that count as a China export? If you go to a mass retailer like BIC Camera or Yodobashi or LABI, etc. many of the air conditioners, refrigerators, washing machines and other "white goods" are made in China or Southeast Asia, even if the brand nameplate reads Hitachi or Toshiba. These days mostly the high-end products carry a Made in Japan label.

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Actually Haier in Japan is branded as Aqua and has a lower sticker price compared to competing domestic brands. They bought Sanyo and their washing machines and refrigerators are based on Sanyo specs.

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"Yup and PRC phones are said to have backdoors that the communist party can exploit."

Anybody who values their security or financials in the most minor of ways would have to be crazy to go with a Chinese phone. Bad enough we have Uncle Sam looking over the shoulder, but I know who I'd rather.

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One of Chinese phones is Xiaomi. This phones are used for my many Chinese friends. Design, function, display are acceptable for me also. And they say the phones are very cheap! In China, iPhone is still popular but if we think about only cost, we may change our mind. iPhone is quite expensive for us... although I totall agree that it is valuable phone. We can connect our iPhone to car audio then check E-mails, watch videos, photos etc. It's very convenient.

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My Softbank phone is made by Huawei, as with other Chinese appliances Fridge &Washing machine (Haier) and TV(Orion) I am very happy.

My LG Washing machine was a disaster and broken soon.

Chinese appliances can be easily found in Japan at Seiyu, Yodobashi, etc

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Yup and PRC phones are said to have backdoors that the communist party can exploit. If it was bad with Uncle Sam acting as big brother what would you think of Uncle Mao acting as a nagging back seat driver.

If the US were watching you, the Feds wouldn't have to go through with this mess and Apple. No one in the US cares what you do or have on your phone, unless you're a criminal or something serious to hide.

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No one in the US cares what you do or have on your phone, unless you're a criminal or something serious to hide.

Come on, a former CEO like you must know that people would love to be able to steal the company secrets of a major fortune 500 company, like you used to lead. And haven't you been a celebrity as well, or is that a profession you haven't done yet, because people would love to get the stuff on their phones as well.

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It's ME,

Orion is a Japanese company, happily flying under the name brand radar since 1958.

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It"S MEFEB. 24, 2016 - 10:21AM JST My Softbank phone is made by Huawei, as with other Chinese appliances Fridge &Washing machine (Haier) and TV(Orion) I am very happy.

As someone upthread pointed out, these are really Japanese brands though manufactured in China. Haier was originally, IIRC, German.

Hell, we all know that most of the Japanese branded white goods sold in Japan are now manufactured in China or elsewhere. I was thinking in terms of a Chinese designed car or what have you finding a market beyond China anytime soon. The auto industry still has too many companies so there really is no demand for anything China would offer, even in terms of price.

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Consumer electronics...what can I say. An industry where a new gadget seemingly pops out every month while. Highly mass produced, and highly plastic. It's all the same now.

@Triring

Yup and PRC phones are said to have backdoors that the communist party can exploit. If it was bad with Uncle Sam acting as big brother what would you think of Uncle Mao acting as a nagging back seat driver?

These non-Chinese branded phones are still made, or have components made in China. What makes you think the communist party limits themselves to exploiting local brands only?

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@bass If the US were watching you, the Feds wouldn't have to go through with this mess and Apple. No one in the US cares what you do or have on your phone, unless you're a criminal or something serious to hide.

No one out of a population of roughly 330,000,000 cares? So you're saying all US Americans have conceded that freedom. I think many of your right wing and libertarian friends might disagree with you on this.

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ThePBot

First off they have more incentive in bugging their own people for obvious reasons and second the fabricator of the phone would notice if a component was doing something else then what it was designed for in which case that fabricator will not used that component manufacturer and will probably make it public. Last you'll need to incorporate it into the OS which a single component manufacturer cannot do on their own.

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I prefer iphone always but I buy them after 2 years from release. my first iphone was iphone4.and now im using iphone5 simfree... cheaper price but still reliable hardware and software.... when iphone7 is released im thinking of upgradint to iphone6 16GB.. :)

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I LOVE my GPD XD Chinese android gaming handheld, it's a clamshell like a new nintendo 3ds XL but much better (joysticks, better screen, better shoulder buttons, cheaper, better hinge, HDMI etc. ) and is basically perfect. Play everything from snes to ps1 to dreamcast to gba to psp and ds games and dos and amiga and more on it, all run like on the original systems, plus android games like san adreas, bards tale, sine mora, quake 1/2, dead trigger, modern combat 4, asphalt 8, etc,. and pc games I stream from my desktop (to the next city).

China banzai! God bless the Chinese!

I LOVE these chinse android devices, I won't buy any overpriced western crap anymore!

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Hahahaha, betcha the Chinese phones would unlock for the government!

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Hahahaha, betcha the Chinese phones would unlock for the government!

Obviously. The Chinese do not have the same freedoms. Do they have any freedoms?

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Along with other Chinese phone makers such as Huawei and Xiaomi, Chinese brands have surpassed Samsung in China and are encroaching on Apple’s turf.

No surprise there. China will do everything and anything to "be number 1". Favorable treatment by the government for the "home team" manufacturers, tied with restrictive treatment of the foreign brands all but guarantee the Chinese brands are going to do better IN CHINA. I think they'll find it more difficult to gain a foothold on the international market.

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My new smartphone is Asus and I love it.

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Fadamor

That kind of treatment had been provided through out the world during the expansion stage including Japan which basically wrote the book after the war.

Having said that PRC's method is on steroids that should be toned down since they have placed various laws forcing technical transfer in order to enter the market and another set of law making it difficult to leave the market without losing a substantial amount in direct investment.

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@Jeff Huffman

Their sales are entirely in China, which shows at least one area of manufacturing where domestic market is important in China. However, don't look to China be exporting autos, appliances or electronics any time soon.

Oppo was established after 2000, but quickly made a name for itself in the international market with DVD players and later Bluray players (actually, universal disc players, that can handle the various disc-based audio formats like SACD and DVD-audio). They have an excellent reputation, because they concentrated on only making players capable of high quality audio playback, a notorious weak point of DVD players used to play CDs.

It's a mistake to underestimate what China is capable of in this area. They've had companies producing specialized audio equipment for a long time now - valve amplifiers for example - and doing well at it.

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