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Parler CEO says social media app, favored by Trump supporters, may not return

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By Elizabeth Culliford

Social media platform Parler, which has gone dark after being cut off by major service providers that accused the app of failing to police violent content, may never get back online, said its CEO John Matze.

As a procession of business vendors severed ties with the two-year-old site following the storming of the U.S. Capitol last week, Matze said in an interview with Reuters on Wednesday that he does not know when or if it will return.

"It could be never," he said. "We don't know yet."

The app said in a legal filing it has over 12 million users.

Matze said that Parler was talking to more than one cloud computing service but refused to disclose names, citing the likelihood of harassment for the companies involved. He said the best thing would be if Parler could get back on Amazon.

Parler on Monday filed a lawsuit against the company, which Amazon.com Inc said has no merit. Matze said the company was considering suing other vendors but declined to say more.

Amazon cut Parler, a platform favored by supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump, off its servers this weekend for failing to effectively moderate violent content. Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc's Google also kicked Parler from their app stores.

"It's hard to keep track of how many people are telling us that we can no longer do business with them," said Matze.

Amazon on Tuesday filed exhibits that showed it had warned Parler late last year about vile and threatening language on its site before cutting off the platform after the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Matze said Parler had also been booted from online payments service Stripe and from American Express and had lost its Scylla Enterprise database. Parler could not send SMS messages after being banned by Twilio and could not use Slack to contact its"jury" of paid and volunteer users who make Parler content moderation decisions after being ditched by the workplace messaging app.

The vendors did not immediately respond to Reuters requests to comment.

Matze said that some Parler employees had requested to take a few weeks off work and also said he and staff had received threats and people showing up at their houses.

He said there had been no changes to investors in Parler, which gets funding from hedge fund investor Robert Mercer and his daughter Rebekah Mercer.

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That's because the assaults, murders, looting, and arson happened RIGHT AFTER demonstrations "ended." Those criminal actions didn't happen "during" the demonstration, but immediately after. As soon as some BLM demonstration participants started criminal actions, the demonstration was considered to have ended, and became a separate event.

Source?

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I take it you’re attempting to refer to Kyle Rittenhouse from Illinois (not Indiana) who was confronted, chased and then attacked by 3 rioters, who he shot, clearly seen on cell phone camera footage taken by onlookers ?

Would you happen to know why he was there with a loaded weapon when he could have chosen to stay home?

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Before it died. . . . people (hackers) pulled terabytes of data with personal data and geolocation information.

Apparently, the company was not very good at protecting the information of its "over 12 million users."

They are formatting the data to make it easier to search and find people inciting violence and are turning it over to the FBI and other police to find violent militants and plotters.

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Good riddance.

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No matter what medium is used, the NSA will intercept the comms. (Good morning, Misawa!)

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Why didn't the tech giants apply the same standard when BLM and Antifa, encouraged by Dem politicians and a host of others, used thier platforms to organise rioting, burning and killing?

Even LAPD statistics showed that over 97% of BLM/police violence demonstrations had no violence whatsoever. There were no calls to kidnap or kill politicians from BLM. BLM was organizing to storm state legislatures or the national capital. And, obtw, much of the violence that did happen was created not by BLM but by outside groups who often were Boogaloos or Accelerationists. How about that 17 yo from Indiana who drove up to Wisconsin to confront BLM and killed three people doing so? Streamed it live on social media. That isn't BLMs fault. Quit spouting lies.

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I am sure trump will invest in Parler!!!

Oh wait , he has debts of $400 million, his businesses are collapsing and no banks want to work with him!!!

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I take it you’re attempting to refer to Kyle Rittenhouse from Illinois (not Indiana) who was confronted, chased and then attacked by 3 rioters, who he shot, clearly seen on cell phone camera footage taken by onlookers ?

A 17 yo boy drives from Indiana to Wisconsin with a rifle. WTH? He went up there looking for a fight, looking to kill a protester. That much is clear to me. Don't give us a bunch of mealy-mouthed excuses for what he did. And just yesterday he was drinking in a bar with some known white nationalists (18 drinking in a bar with his mother, nice people) flashing a white nationalist hand sign. Don't go making excuses for this kids behavior.

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A good many are white and it is becoming apparent these often were Boogaloos and Accelerationists

Let the cops/Feds figure it out then count the bodies/arrests later. Trump people think that the Proud Boys were justified to invade the Capitol considering all those "violent Antifas" who did all those mayhem murders. Just tell the Proud Boys/Trump people boo hoo, you guys got busted and going away on Federal charges while the Antifas are like ghosts who never get busted for whatever reason - must have to do with Hillary's deep state.

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I take it you’re attempting to refer to Kyle Rittenhouse from Illinois (not Indiana) who was confronted, chased and then attacked by 3 rioters, who he shot, clearly seen on cell phone camera footage taken by onlookers ?

Poster boy for the right, that one.

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'bye Parler.

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Parler also lost its vendors and businesses that make money on the app, and even its own lawyers:

"Parler CEO Says Service Dropped By “Every Vendor” And Could End His Business"

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/parler-ceo-says-dropped-every-200411770.html

“Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day,” [Parler CEO] Matze said today on Fox News.

Trump is a billionaire - why not put his money where his mouth is and pay for Parler

Where are the rich people who believe in Parler to pay for it?

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Wanted to join but they wanted a mobile number to do so. Will never get involved with anything requiring that.

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"These are the violent threats that made Amazon drop Parler - A new filing reveals Amazon’s concerns, raised weeks before the Capitol raid"

In a filing on Tuesday, Amazon responded to Parler’s claims that it acted unfairly in taking down the social network — and in the process, gave outsiders a new look at the content that provoked Amazon to suspend Parler’s web services account.

But while many had seen the suspension as a knee-jerk response to the mob attack on the US Capitol, Amazon’s response makes clear that the service had lodged complaints with Parler long before the raid.

“AWS reported to Parler, over many weeks, dozens of examples of content that encouraged violence,” the company argues in the filing, “including calls to hang public officials, kill Black and Jewish people, and shoot police officers in the head,”

In the filing, Amazon emphasized that it had suspended service rather than terminating it entirely and was open to restoring service to Parler if the company began moderating content in compliance with AWS’s terms of service.

Apple CEO Tim Cook made a similar point on Wednesday in an appearance on CBS, explaining that Apple had removed Parler from the iOS App Store because of its failure to moderate its content according to Apple’s terms. “All we’re asking is he meet the Terms of Service,” said Cook. “Our hope is that they do that and get back on the store.”

Amazon says it submitted more than 100 such comments to Parler in the weeks leading up to the suspension.

Content warning: these threats are graphic, violent, and racist; use discretion.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/13/22228675/amazon-parler-takedown-violent-threats-moderation-content-free-speech

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Here's a statistic: 97% of Antifa/BLM riot videos on the internet are violent and destructive

Care to back that claim? And what are the chances that it is the occasions of violence that end up atop the list of Youtube videos? Peaceful protests are pretty boring so they don't get the attention the violent ones do.

Look at the race of those committing the violence. A good many are white and it is becoming apparent these often were Boogaloos and Accelerationists trying to accelerate the downfall of western governments they view as corrupt.

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Amazon cut Parler, a platform favored by supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump..

Nope a platform favored by the right..that "right' has been subtly dropped..

As a procession of business vendors severed ties with the two-year-old site...

The standard narrative..now this should have been..As a procession on left aligned US based business vendors....

Now this is the entry point many non US based and even US based providers of such services were waiting for, these firms should have remained neutral from the politics.. but now there is no going back..so now.. only if you are left aligned, only than look at these firms for your business, As for Parler, they need to move to a non US based provider of such services..they should have though seen this coming. The content on Parler is widely available..and that's not why they were taken out.

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Excellent !!..

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As for Parler, they need to move to a non US based provider of such services..they should have though seen this coming

The coding, database configuration, as well as the security of Parler is (was) absolutely garbage. Check the news and you will find that absolute idiots made and implemented Parler.

An Absurdly Basic Bug Let Anyone Grab All of Parler's Data

(news source)

Dozens of terabytes (including content that Trump members intended to delete but still remained) were syphoned off from AWS for everyone including the FBI to see and investigate. I'm just wondering who is more stupid - the Proud Boys for using Parler with coding done by incompetents, or the incompetent coders themselves.

Really, check the news on this Parler "Hack" (NO, it was not even a hack) and it is amazing that Trump people can't even build an App correctly.

they need to move to a non US based provider

WRONG! They are tied to AWS on a proprietary basis and the "CEO" (snicker snicker) of Parler John Matze said they need to go back to AWS. Again, it takes real competence to have an App business and Parler ain't it.

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So the Parler site was piggy banking off a server of a company it criticised.

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Desert TortoiseToday  09:22 am JST

Even LAPD statistics showed that over 97% of BLM/police violence demonstrations had no violence whatsoever. 

LAPD huh... what about the rest of the US? What a joke.

Here's a statistic: 97% of Antifa/BLM riot videos on the internet are violent and destructive.

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Desert Tortoise

You accuse Concerned Citizen of spouting lies, yet it appears that you’ve got a very shaky handle on certain “facts”. Have you been consuming too much of CNN’s “reporting” ? “Mostly peaceful protests” etc....

I take it you’re attempting to refer to Kyle Rittenhouse from Illinois (not Indiana) who was confronted, chased and then attacked by 3 rioters, who he shot, clearly seen on cell phone camera footage taken by onlookers ?

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Parler........cut off by major service providers that accused the app of failing to police violent content.

Why didn't the tech giants apply the same standard when BLM and Antifa, encouraged by Dem politicians and a host of others, used thier platforms to organise rioting, burning and killing?

Twitter, Facebook, Instagram are just as guilty, even worse than Parler could ever be. Hypocrites.

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@Desert Tortoise

Even LAPD statistics showed that over 97% of BLM/police violence demonstrations had no violence whatsoever.

That's because the assaults, murders, looting, and arson happened RIGHT AFTER demonstrations "ended." Those criminal actions didn't happen "during" the demonstration, but immediately after. As soon as some BLM demonstration participants started criminal actions, the demonstration was considered to have ended, and became a separate event.

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